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What is the Easiest to Pass on the Road?
Of all the hazards, seriously, which of these common situations is the easiest to pass while driving in Baja?
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BornFisher
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Of course a bike is easiest to pass. So feel free to pack up and ride, just remember to ring your gingle gingle bell to warn the truck drivers.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BornFisher
Of course a bike is easiest to pass. So feel free to pack up and ride, just remember to ring your gingle gingle bell to warn the truck drivers.
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Ha ha. gingle? What's that? I would use a Jingle bell only if the road was closed off from all motorized vehicles.
My point is not that we should all feel safe riding a bike down that road. It is that the danger is caused by reckless drivers who don't understand
the real hazards.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajadogs
Of all the hazards, seriously, which of these common situations is the easiest to pass while driving in Baja?
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[Edited on 1-28-2014 by bajadogs] |
You should poll bicyclist about who are the worst drivers...
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i pass gas, easiest while on the road.....
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I like passing a herd of cows or horses the best. They are usually well off of the road in a safe place. 
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| Quote: | Originally posted by woody with a view
i pass gas, easiest while on the road..... |
yer sound like a real 'has bean(s)' 
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You never mentioned passing one of those trucks. I've never had the courage to do that. Perhaps, once in 35 years and hated the experience. Of course,
I'm always pulling a boat.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Skipjack Joe
You never mentioned passing one of those trucks. I've never had the courage to do that. Perhaps, once in 35 years and hated the experience. Of course,
I'm always pulling a boat. |
I never remember having to pass a big truck----------they are always passing me.
For me the easiest to pass is an RV towing a boat--------they are just as nervous as I am, and therefore always behave themselves and are predictable.
The worse are horses and cows----totally unpredictable, and you have to almost stop before passing them.
Barry
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Yep, animals are bad news. Sometimes I see deer here in norcal at night by the side of the road and I never know when they'll leap out at you.
Dogs in the baja road towns that run next to or cross the highway at will are a concern. Don't want one of those road kills on my conscience.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
The worse are horses and cows----totally unpredictable, and you have to almost stop before passing them.
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We find horses to be far worse than cows! It seems that once the cows see you, and you proceed slowly, they will leave the road. On the other hand,
horses are apt to jump right out in front of you --- very unpredictable, or just really stupid. 
Then again, if sheep are crossing the road, you just have to stop because they go where the dogs tell them to go. And while I think coyotes are
really very intelligent, we recently had one commit suicide in front of our car.
It seems that all animals, including the human species are just plain unpredictable, and few are to be trusted.
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A good rule of thumb when passing cattle or horses along the side of the road is that if their heads are down you are probably ok to drive on by with
caution of course. Heads up? That is another story. They are prone to move. So be on the brakes.
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The cyclists I've talked to say that the RV's passing them is way scarier than the big trucks, here and in the States.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by woody with a view
i pass gas, easiest while on the road..... |
How about the cannibal that passed his friend in Baja?
Bob Durrell
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DianaT
| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
The worse are horses and cows----totally unpredictable, and you have to almost stop before passing them.
Barry |
We find horses to be far worse than cows! It seems that once the cows see you, and you proceed slowly, they will leave the road. On the other hand,
horses are apt to jump right out in front of you --- very unpredictable, or just really stupid.
Then again, if sheep are crossing the road, you just have to stop because they go where the dogs tell them to go. And while I think coyotes are
really very intelligent, we recently had one commit suicide in front of our car.
It seems that all animals, including the human species are just plain unpredictable, and few are to be trusted. |
Horses are just very emotional, but not stupid----- 
I trust all humans until individuals prove my trust is misplaced. People make mistakes---------'trust, but verify' is the best policy, I believe.
But when your life is at stake, crank up the "verify" mode, and be REALLY careful. 
Barry
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Skipjack Joe
You never mentioned passing one of those trucks. I've never had the courage to do that. Perhaps, once in 35 years and hated the experience. Of course,
I'm always pulling a boat. |
You have never passed a truck with his left turn signal flashing?
I guess I trust them more than you but I know that someday that trust will be wrong.
Bob Durrell
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
Horses are just very emotional, but not stupid-----
I trust all humans until individuals prove my trust is misplaced. People make mistakes---------'trust, but verify' is the best policy, I believe.
But when your life is at stake, crank up the "verify" mode, and be REALLY careful.
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Okay, their emotions get in the way of their brains, I guess.
As far a people go? Any more, I prefer to verify before I trust as too many people are experts at wearing disguises; been burned too many times. Ah
heck, I still set myself up too easily by trusting others.
Be it emotions, brains, or no brains, human animals are very unpredictable on the highways no matter what type of vehicle they are riding or driving.
Best, to expect the unexpected. :-)
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DianaT
| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
Horses are just very emotional, but not stupid-----
I trust all humans until individuals prove my trust is misplaced. People make mistakes---------'trust, but verify' is the best policy, I believe.
But when your life is at stake, crank up the "verify" mode, and be REALLY careful.
Barry |
Okay, their emotions get in the way of their brains, I guess.
As far a people go? Any more, I prefer to verify before I trust as too many people are experts at wearing disguises; been burned too many times. Ah
heck, I still set myself up too easily by trusting others.
Be it emotions, brains, or no brains, human animals are very unpredictable on the highways no matter what type of vehicle they are riding or driving.
Best, to expect the unexpected. :-) |
Yep, 'defensive driving' is always the best policy, no matter where you are driving. I wish bicyclists would practice it more----they are SO
vulnerble.
Barry
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If you come around a blind curve, driving the safe/ legal speed, and bump into the back of an RV or truck, you probably aren't going to instantly kill
someone.
Nobody is advocating reckless driving, cell phone talking, speeding or hating bikes. It is pure logic and physics: two objects cannot occupy the same
place at the same time! If we can physically 'hit the brakes' before hitting a bike in our lane, then we would. But, if rounding a curve south of El
Rosario (in a section not yet widened) and a semi is in the other lane, we can't pass a bike. That is a section unsafe for bikes. Hopefully, they will
hear the sounds of two vehicles coming from opposite directions and somehow get off the narrow asphalt as much as possible.
Obviously, there is an attempt at creating a new special interest group, award it some special rights or privileges, and make the others pay or be
inconvenienced by them, instead of asking the tiny percentage of these recreational riders avoid a danger to them and others?
Instead of all that additional 'government', how about some awareness, that's all...? It would seem many of these recreational bike riders have never
been south of San Quintin, had a clue there was no shoulder (paved or dirt), and don't mean to cause harm or panic to all the users of Highway One?
Common sense should make this a no brainer.
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Like the Deer Caught in Your Headlights
To answer your quiz, soulpatch....Naturally, passing a bicyclist would be the easiest.
The Baja Road would be a lot safer if we could all avoid the 'deer knuckle' crowd wherever possible. The real menaces are the drivers who exhibit
anxiety, fear, panic, surprise and/or confusion, or substance abuse...with widely opened eyes and a lack of motor reactions. Bad or incapacitated
drivers simply cannot react properly to the sudden & deadly events they encounter...and the chances that they will be culled from the herd are
high.
Headlights anecdote. This will provoke some critics to the core, but that's as it should be. My experience is many round trips each year from 2 years
before the highway was completed past my home in 1973. From time to time I often drive long, lonely stretches of the Baja Road at night. Far less
traffic and very serene. Has anyone had the extreme pleasure of driving slowly across very straight and wide-open stretches of the Baja Road on a
bright, clear moonlight night? ...with zero traffic? The scenery is magnificent and shows so brilliant that you can turn off your headlights and
still see everything very clearly. Much more so than with the lights on. (I learned this as a teen driving on starlit and moonlit nights in the
bright white snowfields up north) Coyotes, deer, cattle, burros, horses...all busy being part of the rock & cactus landscape. Play a little
Pavoratti at low volume...it blends well. I tell you, it's a rare experience.
Naturally, the scene is best enjoyed without other vehicles....duh. 
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