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Stolen Boat - heading north from Punta Chivato ?

BajaNomad - 3-6-2014 at 03:50 AM

From the email inbox:
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Subject: Stolen Boat
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2014

A friend recommended you (Baja Nomads) and I was hoping you could help us.

We have a house in Punta Chivato near Mulege and were alerted to the fact that our boat was stole and heading north. It is a white 25 ft Mako with a 300hp Yamaha motor. It is called Bandit (written on both sides in black and grey) with a large white tuna tower...total boat height it 15.5ft so it should be easy to spot.

We were hoping you could spread the word through your network. We were unable to access the chat room/forums.

We have reported this to the authorities, so if you see it, please notify the federal police.

Thank you for your help.

Kim and Steele

UMMM?

captkw - 3-6-2014 at 05:04 AM

Not to be rude,have you ever heard of a VHF marine radio ?? They work really good and you can always ask for relays and spread the word on the water !!! that's your best bet...and You should get someone that is a local guy with time on the water/radio !! talking about a stolen boat here is a waste of your time !!!wish you luck and remember there is only a few places to get gas on the water !!! A good pic and big cash reward is your only hope !!!start NOW !!! ASAP !!

chuckie - 3-6-2014 at 06:33 AM

Capt KW...geez

Hook - 3-6-2014 at 07:49 AM

Can we assume that this was stolen by water and not by land?

It's probable they want it for the engine, especially if it is a four stroke. The boat is too difficult to hide for long. Certainly a shrimper/sardinero from Sonora would be visible towing it.

So, the most likely thing is to check locations where the engine could be lifted off the boat and see if people have been observed doing this. San Bruno, San Lucas Cove, Santa Rosalia, around San Marcos.

Of course a shrimper/sardinero could use a hoist to remove it just about anywhere. The best chance at finding it is if some local crack heads stole it and dont have a hoist on the water. They might need to get to shore to remove the engine.

I would expect to find the boat adrift very shortly. Hoping that they dont sink it but that is a very real possibility, too.

Too bad the law enforcement infrastructure is so poor in Mexico. :rolleyes: One feels completely helpless when things like this occur.

[Edited on 3-6-2014 by Hook]

Pescador - 3-6-2014 at 08:12 AM

I saw that boat in Palo Verde, and I think it was at the llantera. I believe it was last Friday when we were on our way for a gig at Los Chibatos restaurant.

Pescador - 3-6-2014 at 08:14 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by captkw
Not to be rude,have you ever heard of a VHF marine radio ?? They work really good and you can always ask for relays and spread the word on the water !!! that's your best bet...and You should get someone that is a local guy with time on the water/radio !! talking about a stolen boat here is a waste of your time !!!wish you luck and remember there is only a few places to get gas on the water !!! A good pic and big cash reward is your only hope !!!start NOW !!! ASAP !!


Good reading in depth. The boat was taken from their house and nothing was ever said about being in the water. There is a road going out to Chivato and the boat is on a trailer.

Hook - 3-6-2014 at 08:15 AM

It a long shot but I just reported this on our cruiser's net. In the outside chance that a shrimper is towing it, it helps to have the sailing community watching for the boat.

I wish I had thought of this before my first post. There are cruisers' nets in the Mulege/Chivato area at 8am. I hope they were alerted. It's a decent fishing day, today, and lots of people will be out and about.

rts551 - 3-6-2014 at 08:17 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by captkw
Not to be rude,have you ever heard of a VHF marine radio ?? They work really good and you can always ask for relays and spread the word on the water !!! that's your best bet...and You should get someone that is a local guy with time on the water/radio !! talking about a stolen boat here is a waste of your time !!!wish you luck and remember there is only a few places to get gas on the water !!! A good pic and big cash reward is your only hope !!!start NOW !!! ASAP !!


Waste of time? This boat could be on land. I would say stick to what you know....but you think you know it all.

Spread the word everyone.... Pescador thinks he saw it on the road ...ie in a llanetra.

boat

captkw - 3-6-2014 at 08:34 AM

Excuse ME,,,I'm sorry that I'm soo stupid !!:lol:

Russ - 3-6-2014 at 08:53 AM

I asked some questions of some people in the know. The boat was sold to two guys in partnership. That did not work out so well, apparently, so it appears the partner without the boat is trying to exact some revenge ( my opinion). The partner with the title for the boat and trailer has the boat. So it would appear that the boat has not been stolen. Those are the facts that I have received. It appears this a dispute between partners.

yellowklr - 3-6-2014 at 08:54 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by captkw
Excuse ME,,,I'm sorry that I'm soo stupid !!:lol:


you should be sorry

chuckie - 3-6-2014 at 09:00 AM

But I agree with the stupid part..

55steve - 3-6-2014 at 09:01 AM

Ahh yes, the all too common 'partnership' issue.
Quote:
Originally posted by Russ
I asked some questions of some people in the know. The boat was sold to two guys in partnership. That did not work out so well, apparently, so it appears the partner without the boat is trying to exact some revenge ( my opinion). The partner with the title for the boat and trailer has the boat. So it would appear that the boat has not been stolen. Those are the facts that I have received. It appears this a dispute between partners.


[Edited on 3-6-2014 by 55steve]

Hook - 3-6-2014 at 10:07 AM

I missed the part where it was stolen by land, too Boats can head north by water. I pictured the owners last seeing it headed north past Muertos.

I have a vivid imagination, sometimes..................

I think I'll recommend the boating community "stand down" over here. The disputed ownership sounds pretty likely. "Stealing" a boat by driving it out the Chivato road? That's pretty stupid, unless you have a claim of ownership.

BajaNomad - 3-6-2014 at 01:35 PM

When I saw the assumption that it was taken by sea, I wrote back for clarification. Here's the reply I received:
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"...the boat is on a trailer heading north by land. We believe it is being pulled by an F150 truck so it may not make it far."

"Please post Steele's phone number... 562 243-1745... and email address: kimliptak@hotmail.com"

bajabuddha - 3-6-2014 at 02:28 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Hook
I think I'll recommend the boating community "stand down" over here. The disputed ownership sounds pretty likely. "Stealing" a boat by driving it out the Chivato road? That's pretty stupid, unless you have a claim of ownership.

IMHO, if the party(s) with boat and trailer have title and proof of ownership in hand, the other bereaved party is S-O-L. Far's notifying the authorities is concerned that'll be like peeing on a forest fire. I've not known them to do a damned thing yet, unless well-greased.

Pescador - 3-6-2014 at 03:36 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by BajaNomad
When I saw the assumption that it was taken by sea, I wrote back for clarification. Here's the reply I received:
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"...the boat is on a trailer heading north by land. We believe it is being pulled by an F150 truck so it may not make it far."

"Please post Steele's phone number... 562 243-1745... and email address: kimliptak@hotmail.com"


The F150 seems to be what I remember. At this age I sometimes stand in front of the refrigerator and wonder if I am putting something away or taking it out. Anyway, It was a F150 that I saw and did not pay much attention to the whole deal because it was at the llantera.

Hook - 3-6-2014 at 09:27 PM

So, has the guy contacted the other owner?

BajaNomad - 3-7-2014 at 03:08 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Russ
I asked some questions of some people in the know. The boat was sold to two guys in partnership. That did not work out so well, apparently, so it appears the partner without the boat is trying to exact some revenge ( my opinion). The partner with the title for the boat and trailer has the boat. So it would appear that the boat has not been stolen. Those are the facts that I have received. It appears this a dispute between partners.


I totally missed seeing this post until now.

:!:

grizzlyfsh95 - 3-8-2014 at 11:14 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by captkw
Not to be rude,have you ever heard of a VHF marine radio ?? They work really good and you can always ask for relays and spread the word on the water !!! that's your best bet...and You should get someone that is a local guy with time on the water/radio !! talking about a stolen boat here is a waste of your time !!!wish you luck and remember there is only a few places to get gas on the water !!! A good pic and big cash reward is your only hope !!!start NOW !!! ASAP !!



Pretty rude there Captain (6 pak)

capt. mike - 3-8-2014 at 02:02 PM

wonders of both names are on the title?? i don't know about boats - put for planes, if in a joint ownership or LLC/corp registered all parties must have /carry a notarized doc that sas they have permission to be in possession. Could be a very sticky wicket if he gets stopped by Mex feds police and the registration has multiple names but he is sans the docs.

Russ - 3-8-2014 at 02:56 PM

Only one on the title. The one that has the boat. This all is no longer an issue. Or perhaps the one without the boat would find a way to comment.

SashaStaack - 3-8-2014 at 05:16 PM

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fishbuck - 3-8-2014 at 05:32 PM

Hate to hear about this. Brings up the bad feelings of my boat being stolen in San Quintin. I've been second guessing myself almost daily on what I coulda, shoulda done different. But short of sleeping in it what can you do?
A crooked person stole it and I never saw it again.
I loved that boat! It was a real hotrod.
So when the timing is right I'll get another... and maybe I'll live in it.:light:
Anyway, hoping for the best for the owner.

KaceyJ - 3-9-2014 at 11:23 AM

Per description, "Bandit" and truck spotted on Mex 1 appx. 15miles south of Santa Tomas area around 11:am fri. morning.

Parked off side of road headed in N bound direction

chuckie - 3-9-2014 at 04:06 PM

Adi Adios Amigo!

rts551 - 3-9-2014 at 04:56 PM

probably on Craigslist by now.

Russ - 3-9-2014 at 05:17 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by KaceyJ
Per description, "Bandit" and truck spotted on Mex 1 appx. 15miles south of Santa Tomas area around 11:am fri. morning.

Parked off side of road headed in N bound direction


Sounds about right. The OWNER was towing it with a F-150 so is probably taking it slow with such a heavy load.

mulegemichael - 3-9-2014 at 06:39 PM

jim....i think what is more important, is that marlin are being sighted and hooked off of tortuga!!!....si or no??....see any sails yet???....got the 12wt waiting for that one opp....