BajaNomad

no passport

jimgrms - 6-12-2014 at 08:44 AM

I want to go to San Felipe to look at a place for sale at playa Cantu ,and as of yet have no passport ,If i go without one will i be able to recross the border without one ??

brewer - 6-12-2014 at 08:46 AM

Yes, you will just get a bunch of crap from CBP...

TMW - 6-12-2014 at 08:52 AM

Yes you can get back without problems. I did it last Oct when I lost my bag. I also know of several people who have done it. When I asked the border agent about it in Oct he said if you don't cross a lot it's no big deal but if you cross multiple times a week, month etc you should have a passport.

Eli - 6-12-2014 at 08:59 AM

Great news. I hope you are right. I let my U.S. passport expire a few years ago. I have not crossed the boarder in over 10 years. Don't presently have any intention of going North, but still, it is nice to know just in case someday I come up with a reason to do so.

desertcpl - 6-12-2014 at 09:02 AM

I might have this wrong,, as things have changed a bit

on getting your FMM , I think you now need a US passport

to be issued a FMM

sancho - 6-12-2014 at 10:38 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by desertcpl
I think you now need a US passport

to be issued a FMM






I like to be legal in Mex, I would at least get the Passport
Card, $40 or so. I understand you can get an fmm with
Passport Card, allthough I'm sure there are people in Mex for
extended time periods with no Mex Imm papers

desertcpl - 6-12-2014 at 11:11 AM

yes you can get a FMM with a passport card

and from what I have been hearing in some times the military

check points, like the one going to San Felipe is asking to see your FMM

Sandlefoot - 6-12-2014 at 11:54 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by desertcpl
yes you can get a FMM with a passport card

and from what I have been hearing in some times the military

check points, like the one going to San Felipe is asking to see your FMM



I have the military stops ask for all kinds of ID. I just hand them my drivers license and they copy the information they need, ask the year of the car and hand my lic. back. They are just tallying information. From what I understand they have no INM authority.

Happy Trails

BajaGringo - 6-12-2014 at 12:12 PM

When I crossed going north at San Ysidro in September of 2011 after leaving the hospital in Ensenada with no documents whatsoever (the perps stole my wallet too), I was a bit concerned what would happen at the border. The agent at the kiosk simply asked me a few questions to determine my identity, found me on the computer and waved us through.

jimgrms - 6-12-2014 at 01:54 PM

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Originally posted by brewer
Yes, you will just get a bunch of crap from CBP...



Brewer I spent 24 years in the Navy,, i have already received my fair share , Thanks everyone

Tbone - 6-12-2014 at 02:37 PM

I just came back from San Felipe without a passport and didn't have any problem (no bunch of crap) at all. I showed the officer my Ca. drivers lisence and that was it. For the most part you get what you give.

Bajahowodd - 6-12-2014 at 05:01 PM

A Trip to San Felipe does not require a Mexican issued FMM. And, as has been noted, short of some hassle, you will be able to cross back without a passport.

But, if you have plans to travel farther South, you are obliged to obtain the FMM. You must have a valid passport to get the FMM.

Your Papers PLEEEZE !!

captkw - 6-13-2014 at 02:50 AM

Seems to me...we are going backwords on this planet and the USA is getting like the N-zi's ruled

mulegejim - 6-13-2014 at 06:52 AM

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Originally posted by Bajahowodd
A Trip to San Felipe does not require a Mexican issued FMM. And, as has been noted, short of some hassle, you will be able to cross back without a passport.

But, if you have plans to travel farther South, you are obliged to obtain the FMM. You must have a valid passport to get the FMM.


It would if you stay over 72 hours. Also there is a difference at the border if you have a passport but don't have it with you from not having a passport at all.

nbacc - 6-13-2014 at 07:33 AM

interesting.............never been asked for any ID, Fm or anything at check point going to San Felipe. coming or going. Nancy

David K - 6-13-2014 at 07:58 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by nbacc
interesting.............never been asked for any ID, Fm or anything at check point going to San Felipe. coming or going. Nancy


THIS.

The military checkpoints (at least all the ones I have been through) have NEVER been interested in anything other than looking for drugs, guns and ammo.

Some ask for ID in order to write your name down... easier than understanding our English. The ID doesn't have to be a passport, but it is easier to see your name in a passport. Most checkpoints are south of the border zone, and since you need (should have) an FMM south of the border zone... and you need a passport to get an FMM... that seems the logical document to ask for.

micah202 - 6-13-2014 at 07:59 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by captkw
Seems to me...we are going backwords on this planet and the USA is getting like the N-zi's ruled


..ummm,yeh.....just try being a non-american with a 'past history' in a post 9-11 world.
....an arrest,NO conviction is all it takes to be -blocked- at the border....$100's of BUX$ to get clearance :no: :mad:

dasubergeek - 6-13-2014 at 12:04 PM

My friend (a woman) crossed as a pedestrian without a passport the first time we went. The inspector looked at her and said, "You know Mexico is a FOREIGN COUNTRY, right?"

She tilted her head and said, "Well, yeah, but the sign said Baja CALIFORNIA. California's not in Mexico!"

*massive eyerolling* "Get a passport next time."

David K - 6-13-2014 at 01:39 PM

Baja was 'California' first!!! ;)

mcfez - 6-13-2014 at 03:29 PM

DL is just fine to get back home IF you are not doing Sea or Air travel. When coming back to the US......most officers wont mess with you. At the worst...you may get sent to the secondary as one of my sons had to.

Being in SF for over 3 days requirement......well.....who really knows how many days you were in The Baja? :-)

[Edited on 6-13-2014 by mcfez]

Bajahowodd - 6-13-2014 at 05:02 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by captkw
Seems to me...we are going backwords on this planet and the USA is getting like the N-zi's ruled


When one considers that you can travel from London to Athens without a passport, if you live in an EU country, and only have to show a photo ID, I agree that the US has gone crazy.

It stems from the phoney Iraq weapons of mass destruction thingy.

That war was designed to make money for the weapons contractors.

Saddam was once our ally. He maintained a very secular state in Iraq. Women were doing very well. In fact, Saddam had allowed the UN inspectors in, but the thought of reaping billions of dollars for the military contractors made that situation something that had to be rectified regardless of the weapons that did not exist.

Bush and Cheney are the primary reason why the middle East is in a shambles. They screwed with a mostly stable region and after years of war and huge amounts of casualties and death, we are seeing the result today.

David K - 6-13-2014 at 05:12 PM

Iraq was saved from a brutal dictator... Young girls were pulled from schools so Saddam or his sons could rape them... Saddam invaded a peaceful nation next door and ate the zoo animals and set thousands of oil wells ablaze... nice?

Please include more when you paint this barbarian as a good guy.

We gave Iraq freedom in much the way we gave it to West Germany after Hitler... and it remained stable and an economic power that benefits the world BECAUSE we stayed long enough to keep it stable.

What is happening in Iraq NOW is a disgrace... we pulled out without maintaining a presence and the terrorist are retaking the country (and the oil billions to pay for their resupply and renewed war on the West).

America spent lives and money to make a place better for all its citizens, and now we are throwing away our sacrifice and a briefly free republic in a hostile region.

rts551 - 6-13-2014 at 07:01 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by David K
Iraq was saved from a brutal dictator... Young girls were pulled from schools so Saddam or his sons could rape them... Saddam invaded a peaceful nation next door and ate the zoo animals and set thousands of oil wells ablaze... nice?

Please include more when you paint this barbarian as a good guy.

We gave Iraq freedom in much the way we gave it to West Germany after Hitler... and it remained stable and an economic power that benefits the world BECAUSE we stayed long enough to keep it stable.

What is happening in Iraq NOW is a disgrace... we pulled out without maintaining a presence and the terrorist are retaking the country (and the oil billions to pay for their resupply and renewed war on the West).

America spent lives and money to make a place better for all its citizens, and now we are throwing away our sacrifice and a briefly free republic in a hostile region.


Ahem....zoo animals? and just how long do we maintain a presence? for ever? at what cost?

Bajahowodd - 6-14-2014 at 05:03 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by David K
Iraq was saved from a brutal dictator... Young girls were pulled from schools so Saddam or his sons could rape them... Saddam invaded a peaceful nation next door and ate the zoo animals and set thousands of oil wells ablaze... nice?

Please include more when you paint this barbarian as a good guy.

We gave Iraq freedom in much the way we gave it to West Germany after Hitler... and it remained stable and an economic power that benefits the world BECAUSE we stayed long enough to keep it stable.


What is happening in Iraq NOW is a disgrace... we pulled out d war on the West).

America spent lives and money to make a place better for all its citizens, and now we are throwing away our sacrifice and a briefly free republic in a hostile region.


You really need to stop spending so much time watching Fox News and trolling websites like Drudge.

Saddam was once our ally, who we gave weapons to fight the Iranians.

Our declaring war on Iraq came at a time when Saddam had already allowed the UN inspectors in. Bush and Cheney (or should I say Cheney) did not want to wait to find out that the UN inspectors could confirm there were no weapons of mass destruction. They had already counted the millions or billions in profits that were to be made by their contractor friends. And not caring a whit as to how many lives would be lost.

Perhaps the sons of Saddam were not good guys. However, under Saddam's regime, a secular society, I might add, women in Iraq enjoyed the most freedom and equality of any of the Middle Eastern nations, other than maybe Egypt under Mubarek.

Bush and Cheney lit the tinder of the fire you are now witnessing. There was no Al Queda in Iraq. In fact, Saddam was an ardent for of all the religious zealots.

What is currently playing out throughout the Middle East is not much different from the wars between Catholics and Protestants centuries ago. Sunni, Shi'a and some Christians all looking to carve out control.

If you really believe our invasion of Iraq was something good, then I have to conclude that you must have a huge anus that accommodates your head.

David K - 6-14-2014 at 05:15 PM

So, you would have not stopped Hitler from murdering the Jews and other minorities in Germany either? Saddam was pure evil, and we saved countless civilians in his country and others by stopping his dictatorship. That he was an ally before he invaded Kuwait matters not.

We were at peace with Germany before Hitler declared war on us, just after Pearl Harbor and Japan's declaration of war on us.

I am all for staying out of other country's business, but when they are raping and killing, and nobody else does anything or is able to do anything, we as the greatest nation (or once greatest) are charged with the responsibility because that is who we are, the shining hope for freedom in the world.

mtgoat666 - 6-14-2014 at 05:36 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by David K
Iraq was saved from a brutal dictator... Young girls were pulled from schools so Saddam or his sons could rape them... Saddam invaded a peaceful nation next door and ate the zoo animals and set thousands of oil wells ablaze... nice?

Please include more when you paint this barbarian as a good guy.

We gave Iraq freedom in much the way we gave it to West Germany after Hitler... and it remained stable and an economic power that benefits the world BECAUSE we stayed long enough to keep it stable.

What is happening in Iraq NOW is a disgrace... we pulled out without maintaining a presence and the terrorist are retaking the country (and the oil billions to pay for their resupply and renewed war on the West).

America spent lives and money to make a place better for all its citizens, and now we are throwing away our sacrifice and a briefly free republic in a hostile region.


Dk,
You really should go over and hang out in the off topic. Your rabid conservatism and revisionist history would fit right in. you seem to have an overwhelming compulsion to blather politics,... Come on over and join the OT peessingg match!

willardguy - 6-14-2014 at 05:43 PM

:lol: could the seemingly harmless baja mancave actually be the next unibomber cabin?

David K - 6-14-2014 at 06:50 PM

It wasn't me who dug up Bush to blame for well about anything, first. ;)

rts551 - 6-14-2014 at 07:58 PM

Well david. Maybe we will satisfy your urge to spend millions in more military spending on a country that does not want us there. We now have more Navy in the area. Work harder and report your income. More missiles are needed ,(Ratheon, Tucson, needs your business)


I would like to hear your explanation of how the circumstances are similar between Iraq and the Second World War. Haven't heard too many people make that comparison.

Bajahowodd - 6-15-2014 at 05:02 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by mtgoat666
Quote:
Originally posted by David K
Iraq was saved from a brutal dictator... Young girls were pulled from schools so Saddam or his sons could rape them... Saddam invaded a peaceful nation next door and ate the zoo animals and set thousands of oil wells ablaze... nice?

Please include more when you paint this barbarian as a good guy.

We gave Iraq freedom in much the way we gave it to West Germany after Hitler... and it remained stable and an economic power that benefits the world BECAUSE we stayed long enough to keep it stable.

What is happening in Iraq NOW is a disgrace... we pulled out without maintaining a presence and the terrorist are retaking the country (and the oil billions to pay for their resupply and renewed war on the West).

America spent lives and money to make a place better for all its citizens, and now we are throwing away our sacrifice and a briefly free republic in a hostile region.


Dk,
You really should go over and hang out in the off topic. Your rabid conservatism and revisionist history would fit right in. you seem to have an overwhelming compulsion to blather politics,... Come on over and join the OT peessingg match!


The very note that Goat mentioned, revisionist is so telling.

Does DK have any idea why over 4000 of our young, and tens times that of Iraqis should have died, when the war was created by our own military industrial complex for the simple reason of profit?

I repeat. Saddam was, at one time, our convenient ally who we supplied with weapons to fight the Iranians.

Saddam may have been a dictator, but is dictatorship maintained a secular society in Iraq, and gave women the most freedom of any Middle Eastern nation with the possible exception of Egypt.

If Saddam had remained in power, he would have likely been a strong ally against the Iranian nuclear program.

Bottom line is that Bush was a puppet and Cheney made a fortune prosecuting a fake war.