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San Ignacio

weebray - 9-20-2014 at 11:23 AM

Just had a call from friends driving north today from Santa Rosalia. They made it thru the high water event in San Ignacio about 20 min. ago in a Honda CRV with no problems. The will call this PM with an update.

woody with a view - 9-20-2014 at 11:29 AM

get details on fuel availability.

shari - 9-20-2014 at 11:37 AM

there was fuel as far as Vizcaino no problem and no rationing...bank machine was up but today is down in Vizcaino. I hear the only way to get into the square at San Ignacio is by boat but downtown was spared...lots of flooding there...I wonder how Gary & Terry are doing?

weebray - 9-20-2014 at 12:11 PM

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Originally posted by woody with a view
get details on fuel availability.


Our friends report no problems for fuel so far from Santa Rosalia north. They should be in GN in about 2-3 hours. We requested an uptate.

rufflife - 9-20-2014 at 02:59 PM

I received word that people can drive in to the town of San Ignacio now. Sounds like the flood waters are receding and things are working their way back to normal. The people of the town of San Ignacio are tough and they will have their town back on its feet in no time.

Sweetwater - 9-20-2014 at 05:55 PM

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Originally posted by rufflife
I received word that people can drive in to the town of San Ignacio now. Sounds like the flood waters are receding and things are working their way back to normal. The people of the town of San Ignacio are tough and they will have their town back on its feet in no time.


I have been interested in how the businesses down by the river fared.....the Canadian Yurts, the entire stretch of bottom land as well as the Mission and Central district. They had just built that new hotel in what appeared to be a low lying field west of the Mission. Any photos or reports?

bigmike58 - 9-21-2014 at 02:20 AM

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David K - 9-21-2014 at 03:08 PM

Thank you... the mission looks fine!:light:

Sweetwater - 9-21-2014 at 04:23 PM

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Thanks bigmike, from the looks of the palm trees it appears that there isn't major wind damage but the flooding was ugly. I hope that the local families fared OK, they are a hardy group. That river bottom land got hammered.....:(

rts551 - 9-21-2014 at 04:39 PM

The flooding was very bad. Lots of damage for a lot of families even though the mission was fine.

Juanita - 9-22-2014 at 07:12 AM

Thanks, Mike, for the pics. I haven't gotten out that far yet, although yes the road is open. The hurricane brought more water to San Ignacio than even H. Jimena in 2009, significantly more, perhaps 1/3 more. So the strong current of water went on for many hours and did a lot of damage at Ignacio Springs. But yesterday Terry, Gary and daughter Toni were hard at work clearing the mud from the kitchen. The Desert Inn was flooded deep and they will have a lot of work, too, but that structure does not receive the full force of the flood. Rain was heavy in town, which is unusual, and many small dips and swales which had been dry for decades ran a foot or more, entering many homes, but without major damage. Many people stayed with their neighbors. The Internado (boarding house) had been cleared in preparation, the student boarders sent home if possible, and more than 20 Ignacianos stayed there the first night as a precaution, but all were able to return to their homes the next day. Public services have been commendable in the effort to restore phone, cell, electricity and water. A 'pipa' (tanker truck) was parked in the plaza to fill our garrafones with purified water and other pipas circulated through town to fill our elevated tinacos with good water from Vizcaino. Land line telephone service never failed south of the river, but cell was out. All phones back in service by the fourth day. Electricity back after five days.

shari - 9-22-2014 at 07:27 AM

thank you so much Juanita for the report. How did YOU do? So sorry for Gary & Terry but they are pros at getting things back in order. It was so interesting to see where water from the sierras went and in what force. The emergency response and clean up efforts by the government have been stellar. Chin up everyone!

Juanita - 9-22-2014 at 07:37 AM

Hello, Shari! I've been good. We have a lot of work to do in the garden, sagging palapas and fallen supports for the big bougainvilleas, but nothing much. My new roof section over the kitchen served perfectly, but the many leaks which appeared in the small bedrooms in the wing presage another new roof section in my near future. I wish I could find some news of Mulege.

shari - 9-22-2014 at 07:44 AM

I have spent the last 2 days cutting away wind burned foliage of plants and trees too which will hopefully result in more beautiful growth in the weeks to come. Funny that the only tree that didnt damage was a Norfolk Pine!!! Out with the old and in with the new.

ElCap - 9-22-2014 at 10:01 AM

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The flooding was very bad. Lots of damage for a lot of families even though the mission was fine.


The point of the observation was that all the 'modern' construction done in the past 50 years is quickly destroyed. Something that was built by hand, 250 years ago appears untouched in the photo. Any issues you have belong to the one who took the photo and posted it. I am happy to see all photos taken in Baja. Please don't guilt others into your pool of emotions.


DK, again you are so out of touch with reality; 'guilt others into your pool of emotions' - what does that even mean? Never mind, please don't respond . . . The fact that the mission was not damaged by this flooding has nothing to do with construction, but where it was built. rts551 was just showing empathy for the local folks that suffered damage, which is a very common emotion amongst Nomads here.

As Juanita said, the flooding was even more severe than in the aftermath of Jimena. The watershed for the San Ignacio arroyo is very large, and the Odile flooding came a bit more from the eastern portion of the watershed, as evidenced by the flooding across Mex 1 near the Baja Oasis hotel, south of the turn off to San Ignacio. During Jimena the flooding came more from the south, with the main floodwaters coming through the ojo de agua area.

rts551 - 9-22-2014 at 10:11 AM

Thanks. I won't bother to respond to the nonsense. HELP FOR THE PEOPLE AFFECTED IS MUCH MORE IMPORTANT.
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Originally posted by David K
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Originally posted by rts551
The flooding was very bad. Lots of damage for a lot of families even though the mission was fine.


The point of the observation was that all the 'modern' construction done in the past 50 years is quickly destroyed. Something that was built by hand, 250 years ago appears untouched in the photo. Any issues you have belong to the one who took the photo and posted it. I am happy to see all photos taken in Baja. Please don't guilt others into your pool of emotions.


DK, again you are so out of touch with reality; 'guilt others into your pool of emotions' - what does that even mean? Never mind, please don't respond . . . The fact that the mission was not damaged by this flooding has nothing to do with construction, but where it was built. rts551 was just showing empathy for the local folks that suffered damage, which is a very common emotion amongst Nomads here.

As Juanita said, the flooding was even more severe than in the aftermath of Jimena. The watershed for the San Ignacio arroyo is very large, and the Odile flooding came a bit more from the eastern portion of the watershed, as evidenced by the flooding across Mex 1 near the Baja Oasis hotel, south of the turn off to San Ignacio. During Jimena the flooding came more from the south, with the main floodwaters coming through the ojo de agua area.

motoged - 9-22-2014 at 10:12 AM

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Originally posted by ElCap
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DK, again you are so out of touch with reality; 'guilt others into your pool of emotions' - what does that even mean? Never mind, please don't respond . . .


Really..... I am surprised at DK's comment as well :O

I guess he was just wading in his emotional pool :no:

rts551 - 9-22-2014 at 10:13 AM

2 Pangas from Abreojos sent to take food, medicine etc to Laguna San Ignacio. They are/were isolated.

shari - 9-22-2014 at 10:32 AM

I imagine the natives gave the missionaries a hint to build on higher ground as they probably had seen or heard stories of flooding in the lowlands. The flood water only came up to the first house on the square. Those enormous rocks the missions are built of will withstand much much more than crappy made cinder block buildings especially when they dont use rebar! We take refuge in the rock rooms when things get hairy here too.

David K - 9-22-2014 at 11:09 AM

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Originally posted by shari
I imagine the natives gave the missionaries a hint to build on higher ground as they probably had seen or heard stories of flooding in the lowlands. The flood water only came up to the first house on the square. Those enormous rocks the missions are built of will withstand much much more than crappy made cinder block buildings especially when they dont use rebar! We take refuge in the rock rooms when things get hairy here too.


Exactly and I think the padres were good engineers anyway, in many places, where they built high above the arroyo (Mulege, Santa Gertrudis, La Purisima, etc.). One place they didn't was Ligüí, and it was swallowed by the arroyo and has vanished.

rufflife - 9-23-2014 at 07:36 AM

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2 Pangas from Abreojos sent to take food, medicine etc to Laguna San Ignacio. They are/were isolated.


San Ignacio Lagoon is no longer isolated... People have been able to make it out of the lagoon for a couple of days. Obviously not taking the usual route just yet, but they are managing to make their way to town and points beyond.

Prior to the creation of an alternate route to town, a helicopter was used to transport food, water, and other necessities to the lagoon.

Juanita - 9-23-2014 at 01:49 PM

Friends who drove out to Laguna San Ignacio yesterday from the town of San Ignacio say the camps on the lagoon were not themselves damaged by the storm. They took a route that requires a big 4x4 vehicle, over a mesa.

DianaT - 9-23-2014 at 02:16 PM

Good to hear the camps were not damaged! And glad that they are receiving aid one way or another.

BajaBlanca - 9-23-2014 at 07:18 PM

a group of 15 middle school students just popped over, they are collecting food for the people in san Ignacio......Mexicans pulling together to make tomorrow a better day!

lagoon recovery

Whale-ista - 9-23-2014 at 11:26 PM

please keep us posted on recovery needs.

hard to believe but whale season will be here in just a few months. if things are still needed by then, let us know and we can bring down hard to find items in Jan/Feb/March (still working on travel schedule)
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Friends who drove out to Laguna San Ignacio yesterday from the town of San Ignacio say the camps on the lagoon were not themselves damaged by the storm. They took a route that requires a big 4x4 vehicle, over a mesa.

rufflife - 9-24-2014 at 06:25 AM

The whale watching camps are fine, just a bit busy between hurricane season and preparations for the upcoming whale watching season.

The road to the lagoon is a mess right now, but the locals will have a functional road out to the lagoon by whale watching season. This is pretty much an annual event - Storms take that road out every year. Once the waters recede, and things dry up a bit, that is when people will have a better idea of what damage was done to the road.