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weebray
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San Ignacio
Just had a call from friends driving north today from Santa Rosalia. They made it thru the high water event in San Ignacio about 20 min. ago in a
Honda CRV with no problems. The will call this PM with an update.
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woody with a view
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get details on fuel availability.
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shari
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there was fuel as far as Vizcaino no problem and no rationing...bank machine was up but today is down in Vizcaino. I hear the only way to get into the
square at San Ignacio is by boat but downtown was spared...lots of flooding there...I wonder how Gary & Terry are doing?
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weebray
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| Quote: | Originally posted by woody with a view
get details on fuel availability. |
Our friends report no problems for fuel so far from Santa Rosalia north. They should be in GN in about 2-3 hours. We requested an uptate.
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rufflife
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I received word that people can drive in to the town of San Ignacio now. Sounds like the flood waters are receding and things are working their way
back to normal. The people of the town of San Ignacio are tough and they will have their town back on its feet in no time.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by rufflife
I received word that people can drive in to the town of San Ignacio now. Sounds like the flood waters are receding and things are working their way
back to normal. The people of the town of San Ignacio are tough and they will have their town back on its feet in no time. |
I have been interested in how the businesses down by the river fared.....the Canadian Yurts, the entire stretch of bottom land as well as the Mission
and Central district. They had just built that new hotel in what appeared to be a low lying field west of the Mission. Any photos or reports?
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bigmike58
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here are some pics,
[Edited on 9-21-2014 by bigmike58]
[Edited on 9-21-2014 by bigmike58]
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David K
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Thank you... the mission looks fine!
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Sweetwater
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bigmike58
here are some pics,
[Edited on 9-21-2014 by bigmike58]
[Edited on 9-21-2014 by bigmike58] |
Thanks bigmike, from the looks of the palm trees it appears that there isn't major wind damage but the flooding was ugly. I hope that the local
families fared OK, they are a hardy group. That river bottom land got hammered.....
Everbody\'s preachin\' at me that we all wanna git to heaven, trouble is, nobody wants to die to git there.-BB King
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rts551
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The flooding was very bad. Lots of damage for a lot of families even though the mission was fine.
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Juanita
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Thanks, Mike, for the pics. I haven't gotten out that far yet, although yes the road is open. The hurricane brought more water to San Ignacio than
even H. Jimena in 2009, significantly more, perhaps 1/3 more. So the strong current of water went on for many hours and did a lot of damage at
Ignacio Springs. But yesterday Terry, Gary and daughter Toni were hard at work clearing the mud from the kitchen. The Desert Inn was flooded deep
and they will have a lot of work, too, but that structure does not receive the full force of the flood. Rain was heavy in town, which is unusual, and
many small dips and swales which had been dry for decades ran a foot or more, entering many homes, but without major damage. Many people stayed with
their neighbors. The Internado (boarding house) had been cleared in preparation, the student boarders sent home if possible, and more than 20
Ignacianos stayed there the first night as a precaution, but all were able to return to their homes the next day. Public services have been
commendable in the effort to restore phone, cell, electricity and water. A 'pipa' (tanker truck) was parked in the plaza to fill our garrafones with
purified water and other pipas circulated through town to fill our elevated tinacos with good water from Vizcaino. Land line telephone service never
failed south of the river, but cell was out. All phones back in service by the fourth day. Electricity back after five days.
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shari
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thank you so much Juanita for the report. How did YOU do? So sorry for Gary & Terry but they are pros at getting things back in order. It was so
interesting to see where water from the sierras went and in what force. The emergency response and clean up efforts by the government have been
stellar. Chin up everyone!
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Juanita
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Hello, Shari! I've been good. We have a lot of work to do in the garden, sagging palapas and fallen supports for the big bougainvilleas, but nothing
much. My new roof section over the kitchen served perfectly, but the many leaks which appeared in the small bedrooms in the wing presage another new
roof section in my near future. I wish I could find some news of Mulege.
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shari
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I have spent the last 2 days cutting away wind burned foliage of plants and trees too which will hopefully result in more beautiful growth in the
weeks to come. Funny that the only tree that didnt damage was a Norfolk Pine!!! Out with the old and in with the new.
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ElCap
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
| Quote: | Originally posted by rts551
The flooding was very bad. Lots of damage for a lot of families even though the mission was fine. |
The point of the observation was that all the 'modern' construction done in the past 50 years is quickly destroyed. Something that was built by hand,
250 years ago appears untouched in the photo. Any issues you have belong to the one who took the photo and posted it. I am happy to see all photos
taken in Baja. Please don't guilt others into your pool of emotions. |
DK, again you are so out of touch with reality; 'guilt others into your pool of emotions' - what does that even mean? Never mind, please don't
respond . . . The fact that the mission was not damaged by this flooding has nothing to do with construction, but where it was built. rts551 was just
showing empathy for the local folks that suffered damage, which is a very common emotion amongst Nomads here.
As Juanita said, the flooding was even more severe than in the aftermath of Jimena. The watershed for the San Ignacio arroyo is very large, and the
Odile flooding came a bit more from the eastern portion of the watershed, as evidenced by the flooding across Mex 1 near the Baja Oasis hotel, south
of the turn off to San Ignacio. During Jimena the flooding came more from the south, with the main floodwaters coming through the ojo de agua area.
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rts551
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Thanks. I won't bother to respond to the nonsense. HELP FOR THE PEOPLE AFFECTED IS MUCH MORE IMPORTANT.
| Quote: | Originally posted by ElCap
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
| Quote: | Originally posted by rts551
The flooding was very bad. Lots of damage for a lot of families even though the mission was fine. |
The point of the observation was that all the 'modern' construction done in the past 50 years is quickly destroyed. Something that was built by hand,
250 years ago appears untouched in the photo. Any issues you have belong to the one who took the photo and posted it. I am happy to see all photos
taken in Baja. Please don't guilt others into your pool of emotions. |
DK, again you are so out of touch with reality; 'guilt others into your pool of emotions' - what does that even mean? Never mind, please don't
respond . . . The fact that the mission was not damaged by this flooding has nothing to do with construction, but where it was built. rts551 was just
showing empathy for the local folks that suffered damage, which is a very common emotion amongst Nomads here.
As Juanita said, the flooding was even more severe than in the aftermath of Jimena. The watershed for the San Ignacio arroyo is very large, and the
Odile flooding came a bit more from the eastern portion of the watershed, as evidenced by the flooding across Mex 1 near the Baja Oasis hotel, south
of the turn off to San Ignacio. During Jimena the flooding came more from the south, with the main floodwaters coming through the ojo de agua area.
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motoged
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| Quote: | Originally posted by ElCap
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DK, again you are so out of touch with reality; 'guilt others into your pool of emotions' - what does that even mean? Never mind, please don't
respond . . . |
Really..... I am surprised at DK's comment as well 
I guess he was just wading in his emotional pool 
Don't believe everything you think....
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rts551
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2 Pangas from Abreojos sent to take food, medicine etc to Laguna San Ignacio. They are/were isolated.
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shari
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I imagine the natives gave the missionaries a hint to build on higher ground as they probably had seen or heard stories of flooding in the lowlands.
The flood water only came up to the first house on the square. Those enormous rocks the missions are built of will withstand much much more than
crappy made cinder block buildings especially when they dont use rebar! We take refuge in the rock rooms when things get hairy here too.
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by shari
I imagine the natives gave the missionaries a hint to build on higher ground as they probably had seen or heard stories of flooding in the lowlands.
The flood water only came up to the first house on the square. Those enormous rocks the missions are built of will withstand much much more than
crappy made cinder block buildings especially when they dont use rebar! We take refuge in the rock rooms when things get hairy here too.
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Exactly and I think the padres were good engineers anyway, in many places, where they built high above the arroyo (Mulege, Santa Gertrudis, La
Purisima, etc.). One place they didn't was Ligüí, and it was swallowed by the arroyo and has vanished.
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