BajaNomad

Mexico is not part of coalition against the Islamic State:

DENNIS - 9-30-2014 at 07:21 AM

http://www.excelsior.com.mx/nacional/2014/09/29/984276
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MEXICO CITY, Undersecretary for North America, Sergio Alcocer Martinez de Castro, said Mexico condemns any act of nature or extremist groups, as at the time it was with the murders of two American citizens, a citizen of the UK and in recent days, the murder of a French citizen.

When referring to the dropped information with reference to Mexico's alleged involvement in the coalition that has formed the government of the United States to fight against the extremist group ISIS, he said:

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'Mexico is not intended nor form part of any coalition military character to attack any group or organization. "

He said that both Mexico and the United States work, as is recorded in the statement of the Foreign Ministry on 19 September, together on the border "to be safe, prosperous and competitive for the people of both countries and thus will continue to do ".

He said the ad as is President Enrique Peña Nieto "was referred to the missions of peacekeeping, humanitarian who are in the situation as in the case of natural disasters."

DENNIS - 9-30-2014 at 09:15 AM

WOW...nothing to say? Perhaps a couple of "atta-boys" from Aztlan, at least, would be nice.

BajaRat - 9-30-2014 at 03:16 PM

Nobody could survive The Mexican Inquisition :biggrin:

Ateo - 9-30-2014 at 04:05 PM

Dennis,

Everyone knows Mexico is harboring ISIS fighters, ready to come across the border at a moments notice. The USA should invade Mexico ASAP before our nation crumbles under the onslaught of an ISIS attack. The only thing holding Obama back from invading is the notoriously top notch Mexican Air Force.

DENNIS - 9-30-2014 at 04:23 PM

Neither here nor there, but Mexico has a strong Arab influence within their culture. Deny that and you deny one of the most rich and influential men in the world, Carlos Slim Helu, born in DF of Lebanese parents.
The Muslims in Spain from the crusades era are still prominent in many family blood lines in Spain, as well as Mexico.

Now...don't you guys tell me I'm saying something I'm not saying. I'm just saying Mexico isn't so far removed from the Muslim world. That's all I'm saying.

cessna821 - 10-1-2014 at 09:11 AM

So here we are again, whacking the Islamic State with our superior technology, and this is just from the UK Air Force.

Yesterday the RAF destroyed two trucks operated by the IS by using four ‘fire and forget’ Brimstone missiles at a cost of £105,000 each. But the military ‘planners’ admit that ‘the flying missions will not be the most efficient, quick, or certain, way to defeat the Isis fighters on the ground’.

Good to see our taxes being spent, heaven only knows how many US tax dollars are at work!

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/01/raf-bombers-two...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brimstone_(missile)


Meanwhile, the Iraqi’s supply the militants ‘accidentally’.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/30/isis-iraqi-air-forc...

No wonder Mexico wants to stay out of it!

chuckie - 10-1-2014 at 09:25 AM

It's all about the money.....always has been, always will be...Defense contractors getting richer, and richer, and richer....420,000 lbs to destroy 2 trucks worth what?

DENNIS - 10-1-2014 at 09:39 AM

No better time than now to inject a bit of hateful levity:
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The Iranian Ambassador to the UN had just finished giving a speech, and walked out into the lobby of the convention center where he was introduced to a United States Marine Corps General. As they talked, the Iranian said, "I have just one question about what I have seen in America."

The General said, "Well, is there anything I can do to help?"

The Iranian whispered, "My son watches this show called 'Star Trek' and in it there is... Kirk who is Canadian, Chekhov who is Russian, Scotty who is Scottish, Uhura who is black, and Sulu who is Japanese, but there are NO Muslims. My son is very upset and doesn't understand why there aren't any Iranians, Iraqis, Afghans, Egyptians, Palestinians, Saudis, Syrians, or Pakistanis on 'Star Trek'.

"The General leaned toward the Iranian Ambassador, and whispered in his ear, "That's because it takes place in the future..."

:lol::lol::lol: Pretty gawwwdammm good, huh.




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[Edited on 10-1-2014 by DENNIS]

chuckie - 10-1-2014 at 09:56 AM

Luvit....Your points on Mexicos ancient ties with the Muslim world are well taken Dennis, at least by me. Good comments...Thanks

DENNIS - 10-1-2014 at 10:32 AM

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Originally posted by chuckie
Luvit....Your points on Mexicos ancient ties with the Muslim world are well taken Dennis, at least by me. Good comments...Thanks


Thanks, Chuckie. We can only hope they're "ancient."

SFandH - 10-1-2014 at 10:56 AM

Interesting chart displaying percent GDP spent on the military per country. Mexico is 161 out of 172. Only 0.5% GDP spent on the military. Good for Mex. Plus why should Mex get mixed up in the Middle East, it has plenty of oil......for now.

Note that the countries that spend the most money on their militaries in relation to how much they have are all in the Middle East.

IMHO, and this data implies, it's all about oil, either protecting it or getting at it.

ISIS is a threat to the oil bonanza in Iraqi Kurdistan. Oil is why there are 1000s of Americans in Erbil and why the US invaded Iraq.

http://www.indexmundi.com/g/r.aspx?t=0&v=132&l=en



[Edited on 10-1-2014 by SFandH]

DENNIS - 10-1-2014 at 11:10 AM

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Originally posted by SFandH

IMHO, and this data implies, it's all about oil, either protecting it or getting at it.




Why do I have these strong feelings that the current impetus is equally, or more, about blood than oil.

cessna821 - 10-1-2014 at 11:48 AM

You got that right Dennis. Oil is almost an aside for the Arabs, and this is not often understood in the west.

Arab culture addresses security through "balanced opposition" in which everybody is a member of a nested set of kin groups, ranging from very small to very large. These groups are vested with responsibility for the defense of each member and responsible for harm any member does to outsiders. If there is a confrontation, families face families, lineage faces lineage, clan faces clan, tribe faces tribe, confederacy faces confederacy, sect faces sect, and the Islamic community faces the infidels. Deterrence lies in the balance between opponents. Any potential aggressor knows that his target is not solitary or meager but rather, at least in principle, a formidable formation much the same size as his.

This culture pre-dates Mohammed and Islam by many years, and I personally don't see that it would ever be likely to stop.

Leave them be to continue their feuds - the oil will always flow somehow - it's the only asset they have!

SFandH - 10-1-2014 at 12:08 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
Quote:
Originally posted by SFandH

IMHO, and this data implies, it's all about oil, either protecting it or getting at it.




Why do I have these strong feelings that the current impetus is equally, or more, about blood than oil.


When I said it's all about oil I was referring to why the US and the UK get involved in the Middle East and Mexico doesn't. If the Mid East countries didn't have any oil, we wouldn't be there, no westerners would be getting their heads cut off, and their sectarian wars would be on the back pages. In my opinion.


[Edited on 10-1-2014 by SFandH]

motoged - 10-1-2014 at 12:45 PM

And many share that opinion....:light:

chuckie - 10-1-2014 at 01:13 PM

Such a comparison is Not possible, since no one in Gummint would admit that the expenditures for the Military had anything to do with oil. National security, protecting American citizens, helping our friends in the region, YES, Oil, NO....

DENNIS - 10-1-2014 at 02:12 PM

It's all part of the big picture plan. Oil isn't a renewable resource, so we use theirs until they run dry....then the world uses ours.

chuckie - 10-1-2014 at 02:18 PM

So? Dennis? If we drink all the Pacifico in Mexico, the world has to drink Budwieser? Do I got it right?

SFandH - 10-1-2014 at 02:44 PM

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Originally posted by chuckie
So? Dennis? If we drink all the Pacifico in Mexico, the world has to drink Budwieser? Do I got it right?


Beer is a renewable resource. Thank goodness.

DENNIS - 10-1-2014 at 02:58 PM

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Originally posted by chuckie
So? Dennis? If we drink all the Pacifico in Mexico, the world has to drink Budwieser? Do I got it right?


It'll be Pacifico made in Compton by real live Mexicans brought over from Germany.

bajabuddha - 10-1-2014 at 03:37 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
Quote:
Originally posted by chuckie
So? Dennis? If we drink all the Pacifico in Mexico, the world has to drink Budwieser? Do I got it right?


It'll be Pacifico made in Compton by real live Mexicans brought over from Germany.

I just saw last night that Ed Begley Jr. was mugged and stabbed severely in Compton while merely standing on a street corner waiting for a bus back in 1972; sure glad they cleaned it up into the wonderful Vacation Spot I hear it is today.....
:coolup:

chuckie - 10-1-2014 at 03:38 PM

Great beach....