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??? Punta Sanfrancisquito???

C205Driver - 10-4-2014 at 08:09 PM

. . .Good evening all. . .Me, my wife & some friends are hoping to fly into PSFO ( Punta Sanfrancisquito ) sometime after the 16th of Oct. for some turtle watching, hiking, book reading, Bull tossing & some of Rosas Huevos Rancheros & Fish Tacos. . .Anyone have an actual observation ( as opposed to hearsay ) of what the situation is like down there? We have been down there about 20 times in the past, most recently last October. . . Thanks in advance!!!!!!

AKgringo - 10-4-2014 at 09:14 PM

I am not there yet, but should be arriving by road around the 8th or 9th, depending on what happens with where and when Simon comes ashore. I am not a pilot, but I have seen the landing strip there, and I can't help but wonder how it will hold up if Simon dumps there on the upcoming high tides.
If there is internet access there, I will post what I see in about a week.
G.L.

C205Driver - 10-5-2014 at 07:06 AM

. . .IF their genset is running, they do have internet. . .Internet is also available up at the cove just North of there. . . Hope all is good when you get there & beer is cold!!! Thanks. . .

rzitren - 10-5-2014 at 07:28 AM

Hi
You can email Beto at betolucero2003@yahoo.com.mx and ask him the conditions. He sent some pictures of the cabanias that show some damage but did not say anything about the runway. He has the area in the port to the north of the runways.

C205Driver - 10-5-2014 at 05:45 PM

. . .Thanks RZ. . .I have had contact with Beto before & have an eMail to PSFO waiting for a reply. . .As a side note, years ago we were flying South when a twin & single got on 122.9 and were talking. . .Asked them about conditions at PSFO & Mulege & said they had departed San Ignacio ( Los Medicos Voladares ). . .Guess the twin did not have its fuel cap securely on & it was drafting fuel out of the right wing ( per conversation between the single & twin aircraft ). . .Aircraft crashed at Ensenada on base to final - all aboard killed. . .My friend that helped form Los Medicos Voladares had to identify them. . .About 5 years ago we flew into Thermal on a mission & had a discussion about it; neither of us knew about each other then. . .Beto's wife had hitched a ride on that plane back to CA. . .Found out about it after we left Mulege & came to PSFO. . .Have never met Beto; do not know if he knows the rest of the story. . .My friend Milt did not know until 5 years ago. . .

capt. mike - 10-6-2014 at 10:07 AM

I knew Debra well. I am a member of the Phx Sams and all of us were saddened to learn of that tragedy.
Once we got stuck at PSFO for 3 days, engine problem, on the way to La Paz. We had to plane hitch out. Debra used her radios for 3 days calling out for rescues for us. She had 2 small kids when she died. Beto is a strong man to have carried on.

C205Driver - 10-7-2014 at 08:53 PM

. . .I have often pondered "if" the aircraft momentarily tried sucking gas off of a less than full fuel tank whilst turning base to final. .. Did that cause the accident??? . . Any how, anyone have any info on PSFO????

capt. mike - 10-8-2014 at 07:40 AM

if he unported a tank and an engine stopped low and slow in a turn - that could have been it. Witnesses said it looked like a stall spin in the pattern. No post crash fire so if he had any gas it was small amount.

rzitren - 10-8-2014 at 09:43 AM

Beto told me that Debra had hitched a ride and when the plane got to Ensenada the pilot was not sure the landing gear was down and locked. He flew over the airport a couple of times for his friends on the ground to check the gear and got low and slow and stalled.

motoged - 10-8-2014 at 09:49 AM

Back to the original query....how is SF after Odile?

C205Driver - 10-9-2014 at 06:42 AM

.. . .Got a picture of the larger open air dining area / hangout area next to the kitchen . . .Roof is completely down & resting on the perimeter wall of that area. . .Do not know about the cabanas as of yet. . . Have not had a reply from Juan or Leonel yet, sooooo, I am unsure of their operational status. . .

C205Driver - 10-9-2014 at 08:51 PM

Hola Adrián,
El uracan destruyo unas Cabañas, tenemos una cabaña para tres personas y la casa de arriba con 4 cuartos , la cosina si esta en servicio y los baños todo bien , que día vienes a san francisquito
. . . .This is the reply I got from Leonel - Juan's son - so it looks like they have Genero's house on the hill & 1 cabana, bathroom, kitchen & small dining area adjacent to the kitchen operative. . . Now I gotta find out if the generator is operating the beer cooler. . .& if they have water. . .And how is runway . . .Last time there the cows came in about 2AM & broke the PVC pipes & they lost ALL water. . .It was time to leave at that point.. . . Wife & I Really enjoy the solitude . .VERY special place to me. . .

motoged - 10-9-2014 at 09:20 PM

It is my favourite place in Baja










































Skipjack Joe - 10-9-2014 at 10:35 PM

I have to agree with you on this. It ranks right up there. I've sat there many times over dinner and a cold beer watching the water below. A very restful place. Old baja. Everything moves very slowly here. Small changes are significant here.

A diving bird.
A new breeze.
A darker shadow.
A change in sand color.
A curious wren.

Nothing 'important' happens here.
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Originally posted by motoged
It is my favourite place in Baja




July 2012, Punta San Francisquito

David K - 10-10-2014 at 07:33 AM

















capt. mike - 10-10-2014 at 08:37 AM

Best private beach in all Baja. Been flying there since 1981. Sad to have seen it deteriorate over the years of storms with no rebuilds. The days of Genaro and Pepe were the best, and Miguelito who sadly was electrocuted by an ungrounded refer. I once asked Genaro if I could bring my 25' pull trailer there and leave it with rent. He laughed and said - "Are you serious? I don't want this place ruined like Alfonsinas!"

Bajaboy - 10-10-2014 at 11:10 AM

Love all the old pics of PSF when the poster asked about current conditions. I should be down that way around Thanksgiving. I'll post current conditions at that point.

I would love any information about the CURRENT conditions of the road from either direction. No need to post info from a trip you took five years ago.

Thanks:spingrin:

motoged - 10-10-2014 at 12:19 PM

Posting older pics isn't a need....it's a desire to honour the place.

Someone posted earlier the road in is ok and it has a few beds available.

AndyP - 10-10-2014 at 01:11 PM

I was there in mid-May during a long kayak trip. A strong norther blew in while we were there and we hunkered down for a few days camping on the north end of the beach. The resort looked a bit worse for wear, but the people were lovely. I caught some fish and contributed for lunch for everyone one day, and the cold beers were a real treat. Personally I would bring a tent to sleep in rather than the cabanas, but it's a special place and one of the highlights from my trip.







C205Driver - 10-12-2014 at 06:32 AM

. . .Have been in touch with Leonel, Juan's son, and airstrip is useable, beer is cold, bathrooms are working, 1 cabana & Genero's house on the hill are used for lodging. . . The other cabanas & the big eating / meeting area next to the kitchen are out of commission ( David K is gonna post a picture of that when he wakes up? ) . . . I wonder if Juan, Mingo & Rosa will ever improve PSFO? Or are they gonna let it die slowly?? One of the worlds best beaches that is for sure . . . Used to SCUBA there, but, no more . . .Too bad. . .

PHOTO from C205Driver

David K - 10-12-2014 at 07:06 AM

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Originally posted by C205Driver
. . .Have been in touch with Leonel, Juan's son, and airstrip is useable, beer is cold, bathrooms are working, 1 cabana & Genero's house on the hill are used for lodging. . . The other cabanas & the big eating / meeting area next to the kitchen are out of commission ( David K is gonna post a picture of that when he wakes up? ) . . . I wonder if Juan, Mingo & Rosa will ever improve PSFO? Or are they gonna let it die slowly?? One of the worlds best beaches that is for sure . . . Used to SCUBA there, but, no more . . .Too bad. . .



capt. mike - 10-12-2014 at 08:57 AM

some one needs to by that place and develop it. I'd pay double the rate to have a nicer place. And not have to look at all the damage that just rots.

I did scuba there too when the compressor worked, went to the south end rocks and murdered sheeps head with a sling. Gave fish to locals, I didn't like the taste.

motoged - 10-12-2014 at 12:48 PM

I think the WORST thing anyone could do is "develop" SF.....:O :no:

desertcpl - 10-12-2014 at 12:55 PM

developing has a lot of different meanings

yes I don't think I would like to see another Cabo
maybe Capt Mike is talking about, bringing it back to other years

I little more deferred maintence, and some basic improvements

its obvious, nothing or very little has been done

Desertbull - 10-12-2014 at 05:38 PM

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Originally posted by capt. mike
some one needs to by that place and develop it. I'd pay double the rate to have a nicer place. And not have to look at all the damage that just rots.

I did scuba there too when the compressor worked, went to the south end rocks and murdered sheeps head with a sling. Gave fish to locals, I didn't like the taste.


If it was developed then Capt. Mike would have to pay real costs to fly in and out and he might be surprised by the sticker shock! This isn't 1985 anymore Alice!
:lol:

Pacifico - 10-12-2014 at 07:01 PM

I have several pics from 2 weeks ago. I'll see if I can post them later... I just walked in the door from BOLA.

Bajaboy - 10-12-2014 at 07:23 PM

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Originally posted by Pacifico
I have several pics from 2 weeks ago. I'll see if I can post them later... I just walked in the door from BOLA.


How was the road? We're headed to PSR around Turkey Day.

capt. mike - 10-13-2014 at 09:09 AM

ha - but DB I can swing that amigo - besides still cheaper than MMLT, MMLP, MMMZ. MMSL, MMSD

I could go on. Properly "rehabbed" PSFO would still be the best place in the world and worth whatever the market would hold.

Pacifico - 10-13-2014 at 10:00 AM

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Originally posted by Bajaboy
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Originally posted by Pacifico
I have several pics from 2 weeks ago. I'll see if I can post them later... I just walked in the door from BOLA.


How was the road? We're headed to PSR around Turkey Day.


We went in through the El Arco route, not the BOLA route. I heard that it is passable from BOLA, but very rough. The road is gone over by Piedra Blanca and you are driving through a new river bed with deep sand. 4x4 highly recommended.

Pacifico - 10-13-2014 at 10:08 AM

Here are some pics of San Fran following Odile... Sad, in that it sounds like the owner(s) don't want to put any money into repairs and close shop. Not what it used to be, but still a very special place in Baja.













David K - 10-13-2014 at 11:21 AM

Maybe the Rodriguez Brothers (Los Pinos Tomato Farms, Mision Santa Maria and Mision Cataviña hotels, Rancho Grande at Gonzaga Bay) or Carlos Slim can pick it up for cheap and make a heck of a nice resort out of it?

I have admired the resort location since about 1980... I sold some drip irrigation to them back then. Ray Cannon had envisioned a resort there back in the 60's, called Hotel Midriff.

cpg - 10-14-2014 at 12:04 PM

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Originally posted by motoged
I think the WORST thing anyone could do is "develop" SF.....:O :no:

It needs a little work and some cleaning up.

C205Driver - 10-14-2014 at 12:18 PM

. . .I think that a new roof over the large eating / gathering place with views to the hills, airstrip & sea is in order. . .It was a great place to hang out, drink some cervesas, read & kill toros & also stay out of the sun!!!! . .Hope Juan 7 Co. make it happen.. ..