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Dog Attack in BOLA

Liz barnes - 12-25-2004 at 07:58 AM

On Wednesday December 22, a young woman was walking on the beach between the Turtle Project and the light house in BOLA. She was attacked by two young male Rottweillers who live at the multi-colured house beside Brisa Marina (Turtle Project). The dogs attempted to drag her to their property and inflicted serious wounds, including a broken arm and several deep bite wounds which will require extensive reconstructive surgery. The owner of the dogs, was asked to help transport the victim to the hospital in Guerro Negro and allegedly refused. The dogs remain on the property, tied up for now! If anyone has experienced problems with these dogs, they are encouraged to inform the Deligado in BOLA.

Liz - got your mesage

capt. mike - 12-25-2004 at 09:44 AM

and sorry i couldn't be available this weekend. hope she gets to states ok and recovers.

elgatoloco - 12-25-2004 at 11:41 AM

Sad story.

Someone should get a baseball bat and beat the crap out of the owners.:fire:

Liz barnes - 12-25-2004 at 12:09 PM

I think you may be right that the owners are the problem. These dogs have been here since we arrived in October, cared for by a resident caretaker. From what I understand, the owners are only here at Christmas. They apparently live in Rosarito and have a business in san Diego. Our concern is that after the owners leave, the dogs will be loose once again. Their aggressive behavior has been a concern to those of us who walk the beach for sometime. Just before the attack on the young woman, they attempted to attack a cat being walked by a camper at Brisa Marina. As the dogs are still fairly young, it has been possible to back them off up til now. I'm sure that right now the victim is more concerned about getting to San Diego and the treatment she needs, than she is about lodging a formal complaint. Without a complaint, nothing will be done where the dogs are concerned, and I think that is up to the rest of us to monitor the situation closely!

FrankO - 12-25-2004 at 12:50 PM

I'm sure they sell rat poison in Bahia.

Anonymous - 12-25-2004 at 02:06 PM

Also, be aware of two dogs that will charge at you as you walk the beach area between Gecko's and the beach area that curves from the south toward the east. It is approximately the third of fourth beach home as you walk south of Camp Gecko. It is a two story home, I think. Luckily, I had a walking stick with me which I used to fend them off. Wish I could more specific as to which beach house they stay at.

Anonymous - 12-25-2004 at 06:53 PM

Same thing happened to a friend of mine in BCS.

He got stitched up and found out the dog had done it before, and the previous victim had filed a complaint.

He went in to file one also, but there was no record of it. :rolleyes:

Seems the owner has a fair amount of money and power, and is able to influence things like that.

Knowing my friend, I feel sorry for that owner now, but sorrier for his (recently departed) dog. It wasn't his fault.

So don't sweat the proper thing to do. You KNOW what to do. And somebody is at a rather distinct disadvantage. You know where they live.

But don't just take care of the dogs. Take your time(years, not weeks), protect your identity, and figure out who and when.

Good luck to your friend in their recuperation.

Safety First!

FrankO - 12-25-2004 at 07:30 PM

I had a friend whose dog died when someone fed it ground beef w/ground glass mixed in.

Gypsy Jan - 12-25-2004 at 09:56 PM

Dogs at fault or owners at fault?

Owners are always at fault.

Rottweilers are intelligent working dogs that need a job and will take over if not given direction by the caretakers. Their immediate instinct is to protect their territory. If their territory and behavior is not defined by a responsible owner, they will take the initiative according to their instincts.

Without knowing the situation or the dogs, I think that poisoning the dogs is not an answer. The irresponsible owner will just go out and buy a new set of dogs that will be neglected and create the same problems.

Work with the dogs. Carry a squirt gun with a solution of 1/2 water and 1/2 ammonia and also carry some dog treats.

Depending on the interaction, use one or the other.

I am very sorry that this lady was injured. I hope and pray that she will recover.

Feliz Navidad and Feiliz Ano Nuevo to all

Mike Humfreville - 12-26-2004 at 02:24 AM

Doesn't that house (and family) have a Reputation? I'm not looking to make this public but I do want to know who I'll be living next too (mhumfreville@hotmail.com).

True

FrankO - 12-26-2004 at 08:00 AM

the owners are at fault. But, once that line is crossed it's hard to go back. Having been attacked by pit bulls and rottweilers I won't hesitate to permantly end a threat to my family. I guess I better start carrying the stick w/nail combo to work on conditioning.

TMW - 12-26-2004 at 09:21 AM

I suggest the owners names and the details of the attack be forwarded to the San Diego paper. If they have a business in San Diego, a little bad publicity would do them good.

Diver - 12-26-2004 at 11:20 AM

I agree that the owners are ultimately responsible for teaching and/or controlling their dogs. Since all owners are not responsible, it often falls to others to help break bad habbits. I hate violence against dogs in general, but they have to learn, or else....

There were three dogs in La Ventana last year that bit my wife on the way back from the lavamatica when her hands were full. She normally takes one or both of our large dogs with her to discourage the strays from getting too close, but went solo this trip.
Needless to say, I'd had enough; especially since our small kids were with us. I duct taped two flashlights (bulbs and lenses removed) to a short broom stick and wired them to the end of the stick where I taped them to foil and then wrapped all with a thin cloth.

When the dogs came to threaten, I turned on the power and let them bite the stick a few times until they retreated. I made sure to make the stick look like part of my arm. I walked past them with my stick three or four times a day for a week or so and voila; they now bark at everyone from the corner but no more attacks.

We were there for another three weeks and got a baked potato dinner in our honor for dog control before we left for Cabo Pulmo (I got an official hat).

Dave - 12-26-2004 at 12:23 PM

People, this ain't that difficult....especially in Mexico. The dogs need to be put down.

Call the police to come investigate. If the dogs attack they will shoot them, no questions asked. If they don't and you pay them a few dinero, they will shoot them anyway.

Anonymous - 12-26-2004 at 11:31 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Diver
I agree that the owners are ultimately responsible for teaching and/or controlling their dogs. Since all owners are not responsible, it often falls to others to help break bad habbits. I hate violence against dogs in general, but they have to learn, or else....

There were three dogs in La Ventana last year that bit my wife on the way back from the lavamatica when her hands were full. She normally takes one or both of our large dogs with her to discourage the strays from getting too close, but went solo this trip.
Needless to say, I'd had enough; especially since our small kids were with us. I duct taped two flashlights (bulbs and lenses removed) to a short broom stick and wired them to the end of the stick where I taped them to foil and then wrapped all with a thin cloth.

When the dogs came to threaten, I turned on the power and let them bite the stick a few times until they retreated. I made sure to make the stick look like part of my arm. I walked past them with my stick three or four times a day for a week or so and voila; they now bark at everyone from the corner but no more attacks.

We were there for another three weeks and got a baked potato dinner in our honor for dog control before we left for Cabo Pulmo (I got an official hat).


I think you deserve more than a hat for that kind of training....:D

But having rescued several aggressive dogs from abuse situations, I know that retraining can be pretty time consuming.

I'm going to be carrying a water pistol of deterrant and a big stick.

Although I have a pretty tough rott who goes beach walking with me...not expecting many problems.

"Time Out"

Capt. George - 12-27-2004 at 08:19 AM

I think those nasty dogs should be given "time out". don't you agree Dr. Spock? How about "time out" in the forever sense.....

The dogs are biters.....adios, however it needs to be done....

burritomama - 1-8-2005 at 08:27 PM

We were there the day after the attack and folks were pretty shook up (we stay at the turtle camp) and trying to organize to develop some strategy. I also talked to the fella who was charged by the dogs while walking with his cat. The owners didn't seem to feel at all responsible...

Nothing to add really - it's just a bad, dangerous scene at a beautiful place.

sue the bastards

BajaVida - 1-8-2005 at 09:40 PM

no one likes lawyers until they need them

Thanks for taking the initiative... Burritomama

Liz barnes - 1-8-2005 at 09:52 PM

Thanks for following up on the dog attack case. I was in the area recently and could hear the dogs' low moaning from next door. They are still tied up on the property. Folks nearby have heard them being disciplined in a pretty harsh manner by someone.

Anonymous - 1-9-2005 at 02:30 PM

Dave's got the right idea. That is unless the Policia were at the dog owner's annual holiday party. If that's case they probably won't go out to the house to take care of the dogs. In a small town, it's all in who you know.

Lightbulbs in hamburger

jrbaja - 1-9-2005 at 04:23 PM

is a sure cure indeed.
And this is coming from a dog lover, as long as the owners are intelligent enough to own dogs.
Most aren't!
But, that "bola" is sure sounding like my kind of pueblo!:lol:
Condos, ATV's and dog attacks, what could be better?:lol::lol::lol:

Me No - 1-9-2005 at 07:09 PM

Yes, the ground glass in meat is effective. I would however try the Police first. This is a common thing in Mexico and the deal with it very effectively. As Dave stated. The owners probably know this and that is why they are denying responsibility. If you don't get any results from the police, try the ground beef.:saint:

Dog Attack in BOLA: Update

Liz barnes - 1-14-2005 at 06:49 PM

Information received today from person living in vicinity of the attack. There has been recent contact with the boyfriend of the woman who was attacked. She has had three surgeries todate. She has described the situation following the attack. The male owner of the property, brought her from where the dogs had dragged her onto his property, into his house and locked her in a room, refusing to allow her to leave. She was lying on the floor, kicking on the door and finally the owner's daughter opened the door and she was able to flee. REQUEST: IF ANYONE KNOWS THE NAME OF THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY, THE NAME OF THE BUSINESS HE OWNS IN THE US, WHERE ELSE HE MAY OWN PROPERTY, PLEASE POST. This young woman needs help.

[Edited on 1-15-2005 by Liz barnes]

[Edited on 1-15-2005 by Liz barnes]

David K - 1-14-2005 at 09:21 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Liz barnes
Information received today from person living in vicinity of the attack. There has been recent contact with the boyfriend of the woman who was attacked. She has had three surgeries todate. She has described the situation following the attack. The male owner of the property, brought her from where the dogs had dragged her onto his property, into his house and locked her in a roof, refusing to allow her to leave. She was lying on the floor, kicking on the door and finally the owner's daughter opened the door and she was able to flee. REQUEST: IF ANYONE KNOWS THE NAME OF THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY, THE NAME OF THE BUSINESS HE OWNS IN THE US, WHERE ELSE HE MAY OWN PROPERTY, PLEASE POST. This young woman needs help.

[Edited on 1-15-2005 by Liz barnes]


This is really beginning to sound like an Urban Legend!!

Why would he do that, and then leave, so his daughter could free her? Why risk prison? Why am I even taking time to pose these questions?

David, I'm beginning to lean in your direction on this

Tucker - 1-14-2005 at 09:37 PM

It seems to me that there are sufficient Mexican laws and enforcement agencies to deal with this problem.

Let's be realistic

Liz barnes - 1-14-2005 at 09:51 PM

PLease let's remember that BOLA is a small isolated town. The young woman was badly hurt. Her boyfriend had to get her to Guerro Negro to the hospital and he wasn't worried about reports to police or authorities. We heard that she had been medivaced out to US from Guerro Negro, so no time to involve authorities. Property owner left BOLA, then returned to host New Year's party on property.

[Edited on 1-15-2005 by Liz barnes]

Liz barnes - 1-14-2005 at 09:58 PM

We are just looking to help this couple get enough information to make the Mexican laws work as they should. No one knows the name of the property owner.

tim40 - 1-14-2005 at 10:21 PM

I have walked this exact stretch uncountable #s of times as have my younger daughters (often alone). I will be down there in the not too distant future. I assure all, that if the referenced dogs exist an present even remote likeness of what has been shared, Lassie is going to have new company....PERIOD.

Dave - 1-15-2005 at 12:55 AM

OK, I'd like to amend my earlier post:

Shoot the dogs AND the owner.

Looks like kidnapping and possibly attemted murder

Tucker - 1-15-2005 at 08:18 AM

Might just get and hold the attention of the authorities.

Bruce R Leech - 1-15-2005 at 08:33 AM

You can find the Owner by going to the county recorders office . or the office where you pay your taxes in your aria.

TMW - 1-15-2005 at 10:26 AM

Why doesn't the boyfriend, assuming the girl can't on her own, get a notarized or certified statement from the girl in spanish and english and take it to the police in BOLA and see what they do or don't do. Then contact a Mexican lawyer. Or contact the lawyer first ands see what he says to do.

Viva los cerros

jrbaja - 1-15-2005 at 01:31 PM

Justice is swift and very effective. Homeowner locked up the girl. Hmm, wonder what I would do if it was my girlfriend.:?:

they were there on the 3rd

Humboldt Chris and Robin - 1-17-2005 at 10:11 AM

At least one dog was tied behind the house on the third, and we were told by neighbors that they had a deadline to get the dogs out of town (sometime early in the month). We didn't see or hear them while we were there from the 9-12 and my wife walks to the lighthouse every evening with our dogs. We brought pepper spray this time after hearing of this, and have heard that pepper spray is illegal in Mexico. Anyone know the validity of this?

All the zillion dogs we have encountered in Mexico, this is the first I have heard of something like this.

I just heard that

jrbaja - 1-17-2005 at 10:24 AM

it is illegal here in Mexico.

Anonymous - 1-17-2005 at 10:46 AM

If you can't have commercial pepper spray, what would keep you from making up your own just for your walk and put it in a spray bottle? A handful of chile de arbol in water in the blender and strained through a coffee filter makes a pretty potent blend. I know, not as good as the aerosol kind, but better than nothing.

bahiamia - 1-17-2005 at 02:06 PM

If it is "Hearsay", you should very careful if you start publicizing names, and locations of where someone lives.

Do you know first hand if the "owner" was present at the time this happened"

Do you know first hand if it is his animal?

Do you know first hand the names of any other that might be living there and if the animal belongs to one of them?

You can't just start naming names and going after someone if what you are relying on is HEARSAY.

Over and Out

Liz barnes - 1-17-2005 at 02:39 PM

Mia, be my guest. I have tried to get as much information as possible to ensure that passersby on the beach are safe. The young couple were camped originally at Archelon and Patty and Mauro are in contact with the boyfriend, currently. Others camped at the Turtle Project will be able to fill you in. I leave it to you to take up this thread and do the kind of job that needs to be done. My goal was to inform to the best of my ability. It's all yours! I will cancel the thread shortly

[Edited on 1-17-2005 by Liz barnes]

bahiamia - 1-17-2005 at 03:10 PM

If Mauro is in contact with the boyfriend,
then he can get him down here, and they can go to the Police and find out exactly what did happen.

This is not a forum to decide what took place and who did what. The woman and her boyfriend should go to the Delegado themselves and file an official complaint.

Has either one of them gone to the Police or Delegado and informed them of what happened?

It is not "up to me". It is up to them.


[Edited on 1-17-2005 by bahiamia]

tim40 - 1-17-2005 at 04:18 PM

Listen, I for one absolutely appreciate the caution of what was heard relative to this situation. As shared early, I often travel to that location (and like most of you, many others). Not only do I walk that area daily when there, it is the beaten path of my 2 daughters. Please do share, and for anyone who does not want to learn of a "potential" danger close your eyes.

bahiamia - 1-17-2005 at 06:59 PM

Ok.....Here's the story....


I went to town, and spoke to the Delegado personally, to find out what the deal is.

He told me that the dogs have been enclosed AND tied up for quite some time
and that it is safe for people to walk the beach. This was taken care of a while ago.

Additionally, he said if the people had filed a complaint and confirmed it, they would have put the dogs down.

[Edited on 1-18-2005 by bahiamia]

Mia

Paulina - 1-17-2005 at 07:07 PM

Check your U2U.

Paulina
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Roberto - 1-17-2005 at 07:10 PM

Gracias, Mia.

bahiamia - 1-17-2005 at 07:17 PM

No problema, Roberto.

If anyone has a problem or question in Bahia, feel free to talk to our Delegado about it. He is happy to answer your questions.

Dogs

Al G - 1-18-2005 at 06:07 PM

The fact the dogs are "enclosed and tied up" tell me someone got chewed up. People do not tie up their dogs if they did not do anything. Bahiamia are a Dog person? I'm not. It as if your are trying your best to help, but I wonder who? Do you think now that the dogs are tied up for a few days everything is just fine???
In 1989 a close friend's 7 year old son got his face chewed off. I feel that any dog that bites a person must die and the owner pay one million and go to jail for 10 years. Dog owners would have to start paying attention. Or suffer as much as the as children that lose their future. If for a second you think that this is not true I would be happy to introduce you Mike and his beautiful sister and brother. The doctors helped but he knows he is not equal to them and he is a very sad person at only 22. If you are a dog person you don't want to know what he would do to those two dogs. I do love well trained dogs. I have had many of them. I can not take care of one as I would a child at this time so I do not have one now. When I retire to Baja I hope to have one then.
Remember, all the dogs in the world are not worth one child's life. If you feel different, then you need to see a doctor because your are SICK.
:mad::(

bahiamia - 1-18-2005 at 07:08 PM

Ok, one more time...

According to our Mayor here, or "Delegado", the dogs have been confined as well as tied up, so that it is safe for the people who walk the stretch of beach where they are located.

Had the people involved filed a report back when it happened, the dogs would have been put down then. They will probably still will be put down.

But until then, they are confined and tied.

Diver - 1-18-2005 at 07:57 PM

Liz,

Thanks for taking the time and having the compassion to relay your concerns and information.

Although her information was informative as well, it seems Mia was a bit zealous in rebutting. You didn't deserve it.

Anonymous - 1-18-2005 at 08:04 PM

Well,

Giving out information is one thing, warning people about dogs is one thing, but trying to put up the property owners name and residence is another, especially not knowing all the facts, such as if they were even present when it ocurred or whose animals they are.

You can't just go after somebody. Besides, the situation was handled by the officials down here. Too bad no body bothered to ask them the situation.

Win-Win Deal...

Mike Humfreville - 1-18-2005 at 08:09 PM

One person wanted to inform and correctly did so. Another just wanted to make certain no one got named incorrectly. Sounds good to me. Both sides are important.

bahiamia - 1-18-2005 at 08:17 PM

oops,

Something went goofy with my logon...it showed me as "Anonymous"....

But yeah, all it would have taken would have been to ask either the Delegado or one of the Policemen here the status of the situation, because they took care of it as promptly as possible.

It was literally taken care of weeks ago. And why go after someone when everything has already been taken care of?

Too bad no body bothered to ask them about it. And also too bad the woman who was attacked or her boyfriend did not come forward. Otherwise the dogs would have been destroyed right then and there. End of story.



[Edited on 1-19-2005 by bahiamia]

[Edited on 1-19-2005 by bahiamia]

Al G - 1-18-2005 at 08:53 PM

I am sure the dog owner hopes it's the end of story!

bahiamia - 1-18-2005 at 09:03 PM

It's the safety issue Liz was concerned about, and rightfully so. That has been addressed.

The litigation between the two parties is another matter altogether.

Al G - 1-18-2005 at 09:55 PM

You know those dogs can be released tomorrow! You know someone was injured. People do not get this upset if nothing happened. The person maybe back in US for treatment. If it was my daughter (or girl friend) that would be my first concern. It may take some time. In the mean time the dog owners need someone like you to calm things down and get people to forget. It won't take long and these dogs that have tasted blood will be back, and they will have no fear. It happens more often then you think. The next person (or child) that gets attacked, you can thank yourself for telling everyone all is OK. Dogs DON'T start and stop. Everything is NOT ok. I am not a mean person Mia, only concerned about what you are doing. Also why?
Al G

bahiamia - 1-18-2005 at 10:36 PM

Al G......

Hey, all I did was go down and speak with the Mayor of our town. He said he and his officers have seen to it that things are safe. The dogs will be more than likely be destroyed, but according to him, they have been confined in such a way that they are not a threat to anyone until that is done.

Perhaps you can offer more action on this than the Mayor of this village?

I am sorry I ever got involved in this or tried to help in any way. I learned my lesson.

[Edited on 1-19-2005 by bahiamia]

Diver - 1-18-2005 at 10:59 PM

Mike is right; both opinions are valid and valued.

Maybe I missed something but I didn't see any post or attempted post with the owner's names.

Maybe Liz was a bit overzealous also, but I get emotional too about the thought of some innocent woman getting mauled by dogs that should have been under control in the first place.

Mia, don't turn martyr, don't go away mad, just try posting with a nicer tone of voice next time and you'll undoubtedly get a better response. I agree you made a valid point.

No offense intended, just another opinion....

Al G - 1-18-2005 at 10:59 PM

Mia,
I can not and I am not saying they can do anymore then what they have done. The people may be safe tonight and tomorrow and if they put the dogs down they may be safe until the owners buy replacements. People who read this, please don't let your guard down or you may have a loved one suffer greatly.
Al G

[Edited on 1-20-2005 by Al G]

Mia

Paulina - 1-19-2005 at 10:32 AM

Now you see why many old Amigo posters gave up posting on this board. Threads get morphed and butts jumped.

I appreciate you looking into the situation, getting first hand information from the source and trying to offer peace of mind. I bet Eloy would have loved an excuse to fire off his pistola should the victim's have reported the incident.

I've got my asbestos undies on for when the flames start coming my direction for this post. You might want to buy a pair too if you continue posting here!!

Oh and Albert, I once owned a dog that bit. It was put down. But guess what? I have owned dogs since and they don't bite. Sometimes it's a bad dog, not a bad owner. And remember, you are basing your opinon of the owner by what you've read over the internet, ie hearsay, not by first hand experience, and not from the source.

The dogs were taken care of, the beach is safe, and the rest of the legalities between the two parties is none of our business.

P.<*)))><

Sweating the criticism

PacO - 1-19-2005 at 11:52 AM

BahiaMia, I'd spend absolutely no time caring about criticism from faceless people.

Al G - 1-19-2005 at 10:09 PM

"The dogs were taken care of, the beach is safe, and the rest of the legalities between the two parties is none of our business. "


We are discussing an auto accident?? I'm sorry, I thought we were talking about a woman who was attacked and has puncture wounds in her body. Thats damn cold of you.
I was not discussing legalities, only human suffering. You Good dog owners that have/had dogs that bite I am sure you have taken the time to learn the 4 major reasons why dogs bite. Knowledge of these four things can reduce Human suffering: (fear, puppies, dominance or pain). If you are honest with yourself you should be able to pick out the one that applies to your dog. The two teenage Rottweilers, being one of the strongest ?pack? dogs fall in the dominance category and someone should have seen this behavior before it got this far.
The following is from a training class for Rottweilers, but applies to most dogs.
Please help your fellow man and read.

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Today this dog, the Rottweiler, is one of the most popular in the world as it combines all the traits that you would want. Friendship and loyalty, with an ability to protect you and your home, in return for love and care from you. Picking your dog is best after you have seen the parents. If they are willing to allow you to look and touch their off-spring without too much hesitancy there is every chance that your dog can be brought up with the same trust in humans.
Remember though , it is perhaps best not to look on a Rottweiler, German Shepherd, Mastiff and any other large dog as a pet. A pet is something like a hamster, gerbil or a parrot. You would never look upon a Pit-Bull as a pet, as this animal does not act or respond the same as a hamster does.
Many would not agree with this opinion, but if you keep this sentiment in mind you will have the right attitude in keeping any large dog under correct control. A dog like an Alsatian or Rottweiler is and wants to be a working dog. He will not respond to a relationship where he is just a pet. The person who treats a large dog with:
" Now come on sweetie, let go of that man's leg, that's a good boy!!!"
Is in the company of a time bomb and should not be allowed to own such a 'pet'. Any person who would enter someone else's home as an intruder, will find that the grown Rottweiler will defend the home to the death. If a person who is a 'friend', and who has been introduced into the home, will find if they are properly introduced, the grown Rottweiler will tolerate them and they will find that they are quite friendly. But they should not consider that he Rotty is their friend, he will tolerate an outsider but will rather be left alone. Once the 'friend' has been to the home many times, then will the Rotty understand that this person is a friend and part of the 'pack'.
Raising your Rottweiler, or any dog, whatever it becomes in life, it is your responsibility and of your making. It cannot be just a 'pet' but a good friend, one that will serve you faithfully and love you to the end, or it can become a liability. You must realize what you are taking on. A Rottweiler cannot be whipped into easy submission, it will only truly react to love and care and proper firm, assertive handling, by a member of its 'pack'???????Treat it as you would your own child and you will be a good and responsible owner and you will love your dog as much as any other member of the family. If you do have children, it is advised that they should ALL be at least twelve years old and they can then all grow up together and your dog will know his place within the family unit.?
Know now that a? ?dog is for life?;? a Rotty is not an animal that you can neglect by leaving it locked up or chained up, un-stimulated for many hours on end. Rated as the SIXTH most intelligent dog in the world, used by police and armed forces all around the globe, it is a sensitive being, able to ?read? you by your actions and tone of voice. If you know that you will have to leave any dog for long durations, do not buy this pet, as they cannot be switched off, they are living creatures with needs equal to any other being on Earth. Dogs are PACK ANIMALS, which means they run in groups; it is not part of their nature to be alone. Why not buy a small dog, keep it for a few months then buy a Rottweiler. They will grow up together, keep each other company and the Rotty will think he is a small dog also.
Much of this philosophy can be applied to the bringing up of your own children also. A child must first be cared for, kept clean, kept warm, given comfort, food and drink and mostly, copious amounts of love and affection.?A Rottweiler will crave love and attention, but you will not have a good relationship until you know your place in his life and he knows his place.
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Any ideals as to what these owners did wrong?

Thank you, Al G,

Gypsy Jan - 1-19-2005 at 11:19 PM

Amen.

We own two Rotties. Each one of them weigh over 125 pounds.

They are loving, involved and concerned about protecting us. They sleep with us and live agreeably with three very old house cats.

That being said, they are working dogs with a high intelligence level and need a purpose.

We run them and walk them on leash every day.

A Rottweiler needs to be told what to do every day by an owner who is the alpha dog, otherwise, the Rottweiler will fill the gapp, making decisions on its own.

This is a great breed, but you can't just leave it to its own devices.

Rottweilers

Al G - 1-23-2005 at 07:14 PM

Larry,
There is a lot of information on Rotties. This internet site is English and covers most aspects of health, for your Rottweiler.
Albert
http://www.rottweiler-dog.fsworld.co.uk/rottweiler.htm
:tumble:
Sorry Lencho, Didn't read the quote.
Good info anyway!

[Edited on 1-24-2005 by Al G]

lizard lips - 2-6-2005 at 10:39 AM

My heart goes out to the Woman who was injured. Always be prepared to expect the unexpected when you go for a walk anywhere...I keep my Chihuahua leashed when I walk...