BajaNomad - Coleman Stove question

Coleman Stove question

KaceyJ - 11-20-2014 at 08:51 PM

Or maybe I should have named the thread "Is mex gas leaded or unleaded ?"
What I'm trying to figure out , is it OK to run Pemex in Coleman stove that requires "coleman" fuel or "unleaded Gas"
tks /kc

monoloco - 11-20-2014 at 08:56 PM

All the gas in Mexico is unleaded.

coleman stoves in baja

captkw - 11-20-2014 at 10:35 PM

the colemans really like to be turned off and open and close the control/regulator 5/6 times to clean the regulator..I use the colemann 533 with great success..but its only a HIGH temp unit..for lower (simmer) temps I also carry a MSR wisper light that will also run on kerosene (diesel) I have found that running the coleman "red" can with a bit of unleaded mixed is the best for serious duty that I do...also check out getting a leather pump diaphragm..a guy in WA. called the old coleman stove sells them and a extra regulator is a good thing to order at the same time...coleman lanterns SUCK !!!.....K&T :cool:

bajabuddha - 11-20-2014 at 10:38 PM

I thought Coleman fuel (white gas) and car gas were two different fish. But, Colemans will run on ANYTHING; like the megalodon shark, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Put some in, pump it good, and light.

If you live, tell us.

my post above

captkw - 11-20-2014 at 10:43 PM

white gas is almost the same as naplim gas (close spelling) and many colemans will run on it..the issue is the regulator getting clogged with car gas additives (octane booster) and other additives in car unleaded....the cool side is running out to a island and pulling fuel from you boat tank for extended camping...

David K - 11-20-2014 at 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bajabuddha
I thought Coleman fuel (white gas) and car gas were two different fish. But, Colemans will run on ANYTHING; like the megalodon shark, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Put some in, pump it good, and light.

If you live, tell us.

Back when I was a kid...

Gasoline for cars all had lead. Coleman 'white gas' was unleaded gasoline (and no auto additives, no color added).

In the mid 70's gasoline for cars started to become low lead and unleaded. Mexico had both for a while Extra (unleaded) and Nova (leaded).

Now Mexico has only unleaded, like the United States (Premium and Magna Sin). Only better, because Mexico does not add corn (ethanol) into their gasoline.

Coleman gasoline stoves and lanterns are best used with Coleman fuel (White Gas), but unleaded Mexican gasoline should be fine, as Buddha says.

bajabuddha - 11-20-2014 at 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by David K

Back when I was a kid...

Whaddaya mean, back when you WERE a kid ?? :lol:

(J/K, DK!!)

David K - 11-20-2014 at 11:25 PM

Like that was forever ago... but I am still young (inside)! I can't believe it is all past now, the part where I could run, hop on boulders, put up tents, all with ease. Now my children are at the age when I was like that and I am just getting old... after 55 it really slips fast.

ONE MORE TIP

captkw - 11-21-2014 at 12:28 AM

like anything else with gas in it...don't let it sit for more than few weeks ...the Baja gas is now better than the cali gas with ethanol...I lost a coleman 533 dual fuel stove last fall after sitting 2 months with E gas in it....Yikes !! btw...see my above posts on this issue......K&T :cool:

[Edited on 11-21-2014 by captkw]

Whale-ista - 11-21-2014 at 02:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by captkw
like anything else with gas in it...don't let it sit for more than few weeks ...the Baja gas is now better than the cali gas with ethanol...I lost a coleman 533 dual fuel stove last fall after sitting 2 months with E gas in it....Yikes !! btw...see my above posts on this issue......K&T :cool:

[Edited on 11-21-2014 by captkw]

Thanks for the reminder- time for winter camp prep.

Hmmm- I also have an old dual fuel, haven't used it for a while and not sure what's in the tank.

when you write "lost a Coleman" do you mean it was damaged by old gas w/ethanol? or literally lost? Or something else?

Marc - 11-21-2014 at 07:04 AM

Haven't used my Coleman white gas stove or lanterns for years.

[Edited on 11-21-2014 by Marc]

bajabuddha - 11-21-2014 at 08:18 AM

One thing about coleman stoves/lanterns, the older they are, the more indestructible also. Take it all apart, soak it in solvent (gas, or white gas), use needles and pipe cleaners, put it all back together and voila! Burn on. The only problem I ever had was with an old lantern (still have it, still works) but the top cover-nut rusted on and the post broke; amazing what yankee ingenuity can accomplish (like vice-grips and baling wire).

BTW, if it isn't working and you try the cleaning trick and it fails, you're not out anything; but i'll give 5 to 1 odds it'll work. They're amazing equipment; back when America used to make items we could be proud of and made to last.... so long ago....

Parts

bajaguy - 11-21-2014 at 08:28 AM

http://www.oldcolemanparts.com/home.php?cat=23

KaceyJ - 11-21-2014 at 08:30 AM

I think I remember using gasoline fom the US a long ways back but that was before they ever put ethanol in it. Probably didn't have all the other additives either. I'm only assuming as I don't know, but I'm thinking mexico isn't stupid enough to waste corn resources by turning it into alcohol for cutting gas.

Capt, Why don't you like Coleman lanterns? Thinking of buying a new one of those too.

cleaning stove parts

J.P. - 11-21-2014 at 08:42 AM

A trick I learned from a old biker friend. put some dishwashing soap in a pot of water with the parts and boil the parts will come out shinny like new. :bounce:

Skipjack Joe - 11-21-2014 at 08:58 AM

The only part that failed on a coleman was the leather skirt on the plunger. If unused for a long period of time it would dry out and crack. You couldn't pump enough pressure after that. I carried a 3-in-1 oil squeeze bottle in the camper mostly for that purpose.

A hissing coleman stove on an early baja morning is a treasured memory.

MMc - 11-21-2014 at 09:29 AM

I converted to Propane years ago. I pick up a propane converter from Campmor and it works well on the two burner. When I converted the three burner to I was in Mexico and picked one up there, That thing rocks! It has been nicked named the Saturn V10 stove. I first time I used it we had a Aluminum heat exchanger on a pot and it melted it. Converting to propane was the best things for cooking I have done.
I grew up on white gas and still use when I am not car camping, I will not be going back to white gas when car camping.

Bob H - 11-21-2014 at 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Marc
Haven't used my Coleman white gas stove or lanterns for years.

[Edited on 11-21-2014 by Marc]

Yes, me too! Now, I'm wondering where I put them.... :?:

David K - 11-21-2014 at 10:33 AM

LOL Bob... getting old sucks!

When I began camping on my own (1974), propane stoves were already on the scene, so I never had a Coleman gasoline stove. However, our Nomad friend HotSchott (of Guadalupe Canyon and Shell Island/ Nuevo Mazatlan camping trips) loves his big old Coleman stove and lanterns... he is a traditionalist more than I!

HotSchott doesn't post here much (last time was 2011)... he used to post a lot through 2008, including this gem:

HotSchott
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Posts: 157
Registered: 9-4-2003
Location: Sandy Eggo
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posted on 11-14-2008 at 08:12 PM

People always laugh when they see that I stake my REI tent down with 15 stakes. You won't see my tent flying through the air! We have been in GC with 80 + MPH winds. After one storm several years ago there was not one Palo Verde that was not broken flat. The cholla was shredded and little cholla balls were everywhere. The entire canyon smelled of broken cholla. If you have ever smelled it you will not forget it. The wind picked up one of the metal outhouses and threw it over 300 feet into the canyon.

During Semana Santa about eight years ago there were probably 75 vehicles in the camps at sunset. A windstorm and rain started about 12:30 Sunday morning and all you could hear is people screaming and stuff crashing through the trees. When we woke up the next morning there was not one other vehicle in the camp - everyone left during the night. There were tents and tarps and camping gear in the tops of every palm tree. It was dead calm and the peak was covered in snow. My aluminum tent poles were bent flat. That was the last Kelty tent I owned.

Wind and blowing sand have formed virtually every rock in that canyon and most of the Sierra Juarez. The wind can probably reach 100 MPH and it comes straight down the canyon walls. 'Like the hand of God'.

Barry A. - 11-21-2014 at 12:10 PM

For many years now I have used a 3-gal bulk propane tank with a "tree" mounted on top of it, and a coleman (whatever) propane lantern on the top of the "tree" and distribution hoses running out to my stove and heater (for my wife, not me) and it works like a charm, in my opinion. The lanterns that have mantles that attach at the top and the bottom are best, and stand up to all the rough handling I normally give it, including the very rough Baja back-roads. I have not broken a "mantle" for years, I think because I now always use the mantles that you tie at both ends. Also, I use only after-market AMBER glass lens-----helps with the glare, and attracts less bugs. I also use aluminum-foil reflectors so that my light can be directional, and does not annoy nearby campers.

So far all the LED camp-lights I have seen are hard for me to see by, a weird color, and I find exceptionally annoying and inadequate, as does my wife. I don't own ANY LED-lights, NONE!!! and other peoples really annoy me in campgrounds. (another reason we usually camp out in the boonies, and avoid "camp grounds")

Barry

[Edited on 12-11-2014 by Barry A.]

Pompano - 11-21-2014 at 12:13 PM

Coleman... lanterns and stoves...things that evoke great memories in all of us. I cannot imagine a camping trip without them. Even today, I have a cannister-type Coleman grill stored in a new fifth wheel at all times...at the ready.

An old photo I treasure.

1950 remote Lac la Ronge, far north Canada camping/fishing trip. My father makes a walleye shore lunch for me with his well-used Coleman stove. I still have and cherish that old indestructible stove.

I remember reading by the light of a Coleman lantern while rough camping in Baja back in the day. I would get so engrossed in a novel that I’d have to refill the Coleman’s tank and pump it up again to finish the book. Sometimes read till dawn and didn’t need the light anymore. Like Igor mentioned, the 'hissing' of that light in is my memory forever.

Kacey3, when my Coleman fuel can was exhausted, I just burned Nova gasoline. Hah..been some time since anyone has seen 'Nova', eh?

Kaceyj

captkw - 11-21-2014 at 12:26 PM

Hola,,the reason I,myself don't care for lanterns is the noise,,very fragile mantles and lens...cant see much of any thing except that glaring light that attracts any bug for miles around...and the simple fact that the damn thing starts to run out of light and needs to be pumped back up when you usally need it the most....LOL..I use amber trailer side LED lights with speaker wire for car/boat camping..now those work really well,,safe,,easy and little to no wattage ..try it your like it..HI,Barry....ps great photo pompano...K&T

[Edited on 11-21-2014 by captkw]

KaceyJ - 11-21-2014 at 12:55 PM

Barry , great to see you back and pitching in, hope your doing well.

Capt., I guess if you never moved your lantern the mantles wouldn't be a problem . Doesn't someone make a heavyduty mantle?- I'll look that up. Baja roads would probably do those in also.

And Pompano , if there is anything etched in my mind it's the distinct rich smell of nova gas . I can't remember how many times while on the road NOB I'd smell exhaust from a vehicle and knew it was from mex before even seeing it.

David K - 11-21-2014 at 12:59 PM

I have replaced a zillion mantels but for the past several years we have switched to battery lanterns... We don't use artificial light much at all, as we enjoy seeing the stars and satellites. The camp fire serves its purpose and for the few minutes need while cooking in the dark or getting into bed, the battery lanterns have been perfect.

willardguy - 11-21-2014 at 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KaceyJ
. I can't remember how many times while on the road NOB I'd smell exhaust from a vehicle and knew it was from mex before even seeing it.

that was a blend of Bardahl and Nova coming from those Pinto's and Vega's!

[Edited on 11-21-2014 by willardguy]

David K - 11-21-2014 at 01:23 PM

Funny... remember Moroso Octane Booster? Nova had an octane of like 79 and even my Subaru would ping if I didn't add the booster or retard the timing (remember when we could actually do that?).

Mexitron - 11-21-2014 at 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by David K
I have replaced a zillion mantels but for the past several years we have switched to battery lanterns... We don't use artificial light much at all, as we enjoy seeing the stars and satellites. The camp fire serves its purpose and for the few minutes need while cooking in the dark or getting into bed, the battery lanterns have been perfect.

Me too...though every once in a while I fire up the 1958 Coleman lantern Frank Nordhoff gave to me, love that sound.

I inadvertently brought the can of turpentine instead of the white gas one time camping in Baja---it still worked!

Cisco - 11-21-2014 at 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KaceyJ
Or maybe I should have named the thread "Is mex gas leaded or unleaded ?"
What I'm trying to figure out , is it OK to run Pemex in Coleman stove that requires "coleman" fuel or "unleaded Gas"
tks /kc

You might get a StoveTec rocket stove also. Then you need not worry about fossil fuels or having to carry any fuel with you.

I use my Colemans for a quick heat, rest stop coffee thing but the rocket stove is used for any meal prep or baking, etc...

Camping lanterns

bajaguy - 11-21-2014 at 03:44 PM

I'm thinking these are better than battery or Coleman type (white gas/propane) lanterns

https://www.mpowerd.com/products

chuckie - 11-21-2014 at 04:19 PM

My favorite author, Robert Ruark, said "the one familiar comfortable sound in every hunting camp in every country, was the hissing of a Coleman lantern" Things have progessed? since those days, but the boys and I still use em.....for that reason.....Our elk camps are enforced old school,tents, wood stoves.....and Colemans

Pompano - 11-21-2014 at 04:31 PM

An interesting anecdote about the old Nova gasoline at the pumps.

When the aviation gas tanks were empty at the Serinadad pista years ago, my buddy, Dusty said, 'Let's try the gas station.'

We could only get some Nova from the downtown Pemex..(back then it was the only gas station in town). We put it into his C180 taildragger and then we flew her down to Loreto and filled with regular av-fuel. We could do that back then....

Your Coleman lantern should do just fine.

Pompano - 12-6-2014 at 03:04 AM

Something to add on those great Coleman stoves. You love them or hate them...it's a matter of the heart. I have the new propane stove, too, but I much prefer the good vibes and nostalgia of the older one. No contest.

I was just looking at my old stove that's part of my RV storage equipment. Perfect for a picnic table cookout ...or whenever and whatever you want outside.

Reminded me that we also used one for all meals when on board my old Pompano cruising around the SOC. Far less danger and handier than using the common alcohol stoves in the galley. The alcohol stoves caused a few fires and problems. Were prone to a flair-up.

In the right weather nothing beat the good old standby...the Coleman stove.

[Edited on 12-7-2014 by Pompano]

Cypress - 12-6-2014 at 04:42 AM

We used coleman lanterns for floundering, think they were made especially for floundering, had a reflected pan on the back. Had an occasional flare-up, insects would hit the mantel, but they worked great.

Hook - 12-6-2014 at 06:32 AM

I cant believe anyone would want to deal with the gallons of Coleman fuel. What a pain those were. I ditched my liquid Coleman the minute the propane versions came out and never looked back. Always taking out the plunger and servicing it. The orifice on the tip.

And I gotta agree with Cappy. In the age of warm white LEDs, I cant see using a conventional mantle lantern. Those things are obnoxiously bright. I hate it when someone sets up near me with one of those things hissing and ruining night vision.

But, come on, Cappy, no need to run wires to them. There are some great LED lanterns and flashlights out there, now.

Alm - 12-6-2014 at 05:27 PM

Quote: Originally posted by captkw

like anything else with gas in it...don't let it sit for more than few weeks ...

Better yet - get a propane camping stove. They start from $15 or so. Reliable, no smell, no leaded/unleaded issues, and propane is everywhere.

Agreed with Hook on propane lanterns though - LED is the way to go these days.

[Edited on 12-7-2014 by Alm]

SlyOnce - 12-10-2014 at 08:59 AM

you can get a 1 burner butane stove at Big 5 for $17. Cans of butane are $4. I have a 2 burner. Comes with a carrying case. Butane cans are available in MX at Commercial Mexicana (at least the one in Rosarito has them).

Lots of heat, throttles from simmer to hot, simple, nothing to spill. A can lasts a long time.

I can put it on my tailgate, one time in Baja on the side of the road in Vale de Guadalupe I made hot dogs, refried beans, heated tortillas and served hot coffee to my sweetheart. I set up the camping table and chairs too. We were really hungry after a long day, it is a great memory.

timing is everthing !

captkw - 12-10-2014 at 09:31 AM

Funny this thread came back up today..we are planning for a MAJOR storm tonight and into tomorrow..6-10" inches of rain and 30 to 60 knots of wind !! Yikes..going up to the summit of santa cruz moutains and moving my Dodge 2500 boat hauler and grabbing my coleman 533 dual fuel as the power is going to go out !!! the speaker wire with side marker l.e.d. trailer (amber) works really well for long term car/truck/boat camping and you don't have ever buy/replace battery's..."coast" brand of led flashlights are hands down the best on the market..I use a PX25 and folks are very impressed and it has a lifetime warrenty..I drop it all the time and it hasn't flinched !! K&T

Alm - 12-11-2014 at 01:04 AM

I stopped using LED flashlights long time ago when discovered LED headlamps. More versatile. Besides being a headlamp, it can be also used as a lantern - hang it by the straps on whatever you have, most of them have wide-angle beam and tilted head. Of course it can be used as a flashlight too, but normally it's easier to put it on your head, leaving hands free.

Nothing beats $2 LED lawn markers though. Cut the stake off, tie a shoe lace around it, hand on something in daytime or throw under the rear car window. When night comes, it provides a few hours of usable light, enough to have a late supper or make a trip to washroom.

LED flashlights

captkw - 12-11-2014 at 01:06 PM

yesterday I went to 6 stores checking any/all led flashlights for friends and niebours...the "coast" still wins hands down..its raining like hell (think Odile) and the wind is AWESOME !! a head led wont work under a dash or for major repair work...( I know as I tried)and on my boat would get ripped right off..but thanks for the suggestion...

[Edited on 12-11-2014 by captkw]

Cisco - 12-11-2014 at 02:37 PM

Where do you dispose of used/empty butane or propane containers?

larryC - 12-11-2014 at 04:03 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Cisco

Where do you dispose of used/empty butane or propane containers?

Don't know about butane but the 1 lb propane cylinders are easy to refill from a standard 5 gallon propane tank so no reason to dispose of them.

[Edited on 12-11-2014 by larryC]

think about this !!

captkw - 12-11-2014 at 05:04 PM

when SHTF (chubasco/tremer/crazy US gov stuff) gas/diesel/kerosin we be avable and propane will be impossible to find..and propane is muy pelegrosso.

Cisco - 12-11-2014 at 05:26 PM

Quote: Originally posted by captkw

when SHTF (chubasco/tremer/crazy US gov stuff) gas/diesel/kerosin we be avable and propane will be impossible to find..and propane is muy pelegrosso.

Yeah. Good suggestion on the five gallon container but not applicable to my situation.

BTU - cost - availability - safe storage all need to be researched.

Seems like convenience is the main goody for propane/butane.

"At 1/10 of the cost of propane, unleaded gas is the cheapest of all ...."

Barry A. - 12-11-2014 at 06:11 PM

My 3-gal. propane tank which feeds stove, lanterns, and heaters lasts me for several years as I use it only for camping. Cost is irrelevant under these circumstances. Yes, "convenience" is the big driver in using propane instead of the other stuff.

Barry

Hola barry !!

captkw - 12-11-2014 at 06:22 PM

Glad to hear from you...The reason I stay away from propane unit's is the flash point and I can always find gas/diesel/kerosene...I agree that if your going with propane go all out with the "T" if your not moving and have a fridge...Think "norcold or dometic"...myself am a "vagabundo" and keep my gear ready to hit the road/boat........

Alm - 12-12-2014 at 08:31 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Cisco

BTU - cost - availability - safe storage all need to be researched.

Seems like convenience is the main goody for propane/butane.

Propane is convenient, but not only. BTU and cost are not a problem. 1 lb propane cylinder lasts me 8-10 days for one person, this is with 2 hot meals a day - cooked, not just boiled - and countless cups of tea and coffee. When it lasts that long, a disposal/recycling becomes a non-issue either, unless you are a hiker or cyclist.

Availability "could" be a problem, but in all my wilderness trips - and there were many - it has never been. Just plan ahead and bring enough propane. Green 1lb cylinders are available in hardware stores in many places in Baja. And, whenever I couldn't find one, they usually had long blue cylinders for propane torch - same propane, same thread.

Small cylinders with butane/propane mix by MSR, Primus etc for so called "backpacking stoves" are aluminum and therefore truly recyclable, but I don't like them for Baja. BTU isn't much different from propane, but they cost 2 times as much and less readily available.

Now, why somebody can't use a LED headlamp - as a flashlight - under the dash, is beyond me. You can hold it in hand, duh

... There are some pretty bright LED headlamps.
Though when you need REALLY bright and focused light, those military-looking flashlights is the way to go. Short of doing some complicated repairs, I wouldn't imagine needing one. On the boat it's different, a headlamp is a no-no. Too many things on the boat to rip it off your head and right into water. Propane lanterns don't fare well on water either.

[Edited on 12-13-2014 by Alm]

Cisco - 12-13-2014 at 02:07 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Alm

Quote: Originally posted by Cisco

BTU - cost - availability - safe storage all need to be researched.

Seems like convenience is the main goody for propane/butane.

So. Where do you dispose of used/empty butane or propane containers?

Jack Swords - 12-13-2014 at 04:49 PM

Cree LED flashlights with 18650 rechargeable batteries out shine all others. Up to 5000 lumens a small penlight flashlight looks like a big 5 cell. Newest technology, mainly in China. Wouldn't you know it, Amazon carries them.

Butane is great, but in cold weather ineffective. Newest stoves use isobutane to overcome that limitation.

Alm - 12-13-2014 at 08:15 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Cisco

So. Where do you dispose of used/empty butane or propane containers?

Same place where you dispose of used food cans. Garbage bin. Better than throwing it out in desert. If you take it back North and put next to dumpsted in city, local bums will pick it up when collecting scrap metal. Steel is getting expensive, thanks to "developing nations". Punch it with a nail. Coleman is now supplying those small 1 lb cylinders with the "Green Key", a small plastic plunger to let out whatever milligrams of gas remain there after it doesn't burn anymore.

Alm - 12-13-2014 at 08:25 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Jack Swords

Newest technology, mainly in China.

I hardly even remember the last time that some new technology originated in China. CREE is a North Carolina company, and have a factory there. Chinese subsidiary started making those lights on their factory a few years ago.

woody with a view - 12-14-2014 at 12:20 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Alm

Quote: Originally posted by Cisco

So. Where do you dispose of used/empty butane or propane containers?

if you get the right adapter you can refill them. seems like too much trouble when a BBQ tank lasts forever!

Alm - 12-14-2014 at 12:52 PM

Woody, you can refill 1lb canisters, yes. Adapters are available on Amazon. It's recommended to put 1 lb canister in freezer for a few hours, before refilling.

It's just that Cisco said he can't refill it. Probably on some bike or quad trip. Punch a hole and throw it with other garbage. Put it next to some discarded car body or junk yard, it will be taken away with scrap metal.

Cisco - 12-14-2014 at 02:14 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Alm

Woody, you can refill 1lb canisters, yes. Adapters are available on Amazon. It's recommended to put 1 lb canister in freezer for a few hours, before refilling.

It's just that Cisco said he can't refill it. Probably on some bike or quad trip. Punch a hole and throw it with other garbage. Put it next to some discarded car body or junk yard, it will be taken away with scrap metal.

Yes, refilling would be a consideration of lack of space Alm.

I was also told (several years ago, may have changed) NOB, San Diego, that it was illegal to put them in the trash or leave them out for scavengers and the recycling places I have gone to tell me that they require special recycling, like batteries, some paints and other combustibles and other listed products.

That City of San Diego on occasion sets up a special disposal day/unit to take all of those hazardous items and that you wait for that day.

I am aware NOB. My question pertained to SOB.

Alm - 12-14-2014 at 08:08 PM

I doubt there are any special recycling programs SOB for those propane cylinders. You will have a hard time finding any recycling programs at all, for anything. The issue of legality is kinda moot there either. Steel has gone up, so now they are picking up rusty car bodies that people used to leave in desert. The only reason why fewer people are throwing those car bodies away now, and other people are picking it up, is that they can sell it to junk yard.

In Mexico I follow minimal footprint guidelines, burning my food cans to destroy the protective coating so that corrosion would go faster, flatten them and drop in a dumpster or bury it where I see fit. Empty propane cylinder with a hole in the side is just another piece of steel.

NOB there are occasionally recycling programs for those small propane cylinders, but my conscience won't suffer either if I puncture it and throw in a roadside garbage bin. Will the NOB dump truck people go after me for doing this, doesn't bother me since I live in condo. Their safety is not at risk in this case.

Empty cans after household cleaners or solvents are way more dangerous in trash. Batteries and paints require special recycling because they contain led and other hazardous metals.

[Edited on 12-15-2014 by Alm]

colemann 533 Dual Fuel stove

captkw - 12-15-2014 at 10:21 PM

got my first one 25+ years ago and its never let me down !! and with 10,000 BTU will boil water faster than any camp stove hands down..for that first cup of coffee,,not waiting for a wimp/wanna be camp stove that I see marketed !!!