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KaceyJ
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Coleman Stove question
Or maybe I should have named the thread "Is mex gas leaded or unleaded ?"
What I'm trying to figure out , is it OK to run Pemex in Coleman stove that requires "coleman" fuel or "unleaded Gas"
tks /kc
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All the gas in Mexico is unleaded.
"The future ain't what it used to be"
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coleman stoves in baja
the colemans really like to be turned off and open and close the control/regulator 5/6 times to clean the regulator..I use the colemann 533 with
great success..but its only a HIGH temp unit..for lower (simmer) temps I also carry a MSR wisper light that will also run on kerosene (diesel) I have
found that running the coleman "red" can with a bit of unleaded mixed is the best for serious duty that I do...also check out getting a leather pump
diaphragm..a guy in WA. called the old coleman stove sells them and a extra regulator is a good thing to order at the same time...coleman lanterns
SUCK !!!.....K&T
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I thought Coleman fuel (white gas) and car gas were two different fish. But, Colemans will run on ANYTHING; like the megalodon shark, if it ain't
broke, don't fix it.
Put some in, pump it good, and light.
If you live, tell us.
I don't have a BUCKET LIST, but I do have a F***- IT LIST a mile long!
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captkw
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my post above
white gas is almost the same as naplim gas (close spelling) and many colemans will run on it..the issue is the regulator getting clogged with car gas
additives (octane booster) and other additives in car unleaded....the cool side is running out to a island and pulling fuel from you boat tank for
extended camping...
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajabuddha
I thought Coleman fuel (white gas) and car gas were two different fish. But, Colemans will run on ANYTHING; like the megalodon shark, if it ain't
broke, don't fix it.
Put some in, pump it good, and light.
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Back when I was a kid...
Gasoline for cars all had lead. Coleman 'white gas' was unleaded gasoline (and no auto additives, no color added).
In the mid 70's gasoline for cars started to become low lead and unleaded. Mexico had both for a while Extra (unleaded) and Nova (leaded).
Now Mexico has only unleaded, like the United States (Premium and Magna Sin). Only better, because Mexico does not add corn (ethanol) into their
gasoline.
Coleman gasoline stoves and lanterns are best used with Coleman fuel (White Gas), but unleaded Mexican gasoline should be fine, as Buddha says.
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bajabuddha
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Back when I was a kid...
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Whaddaya mean, back when you WERE a kid ??  (J/K, DK!!)
I don't have a BUCKET LIST, but I do have a F***- IT LIST a mile long!
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David K
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Like that was forever ago... but I am still young (inside)! I can't believe it is all past now, the part where I could run, hop on boulders, put up
tents, all with ease. Now my children are at the age when I was like that and I am just getting old... after 55 it really slips fast.
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ONE MORE TIP
like anything else with gas in it...don't let it sit for more than few weeks ...the Baja gas is now better than the cali gas with ethanol...I lost a
coleman 533 dual fuel stove last fall after sitting 2 months with E gas in it....Yikes !! btw...see my above posts on this issue......K&T
[Edited on 11-21-2014 by captkw]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by captkw
like anything else with gas in it...don't let it sit for more than few weeks ...the Baja gas is now better than the cali gas with ethanol...I lost a
coleman 533 dual fuel stove last fall after sitting 2 months with E gas in it....Yikes !! btw...see my above posts on this issue......K&T
[Edited on 11-21-2014 by captkw] |
Thanks for the reminder- time for winter camp prep.
Hmmm- I also have an old dual fuel, haven't used it for a while and not sure what's in the tank.
when you write "lost a Coleman" do you mean it was damaged by old gas w/ethanol? or literally lost? Or something else?
\"Probably the airplanes will bring week-enders from Los Angeles before long, and the beautiful poor bedraggled old town will bloom with a
Floridian ugliness.\" (John Steinbeck, 1940, discussing the future of La Paz, BCS, Mexico)
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Haven't used my Coleman white gas stove or lanterns for years.
[Edited on 11-21-2014 by Marc]
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One thing about coleman stoves/lanterns, the older they are, the more indestructible also. Take it all apart, soak it in solvent (gas, or white gas),
use needles and pipe cleaners, put it all back together and voila! Burn on. The only problem I ever had was with an old lantern (still have it,
still works) but the top cover-nut rusted on and the post broke; amazing what yankee ingenuity can accomplish (like vice-grips and baling wire).
BTW, if it isn't working and you try the cleaning trick and it fails, you're not out anything; but i'll give 5 to 1 odds it'll work. They're amazing
equipment; back when America used to make items we could be proud of and made to last.... so long ago....
I don't have a BUCKET LIST, but I do have a F***- IT LIST a mile long!
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Parts
http://www.oldcolemanparts.com/home.php?cat=23
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I think I remember using gasoline fom the US a long ways back but that was before they ever put ethanol in it. Probably didn't have all the other
additives either. I'm only assuming as I don't know, but I'm thinking mexico isn't stupid enough to waste corn resources by turning it into alcohol
for cutting gas.
Capt, Why don't you like Coleman lanterns? Thinking of buying a new one of those too.
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cleaning stove parts
A trick I learned from a old biker friend. put some dishwashing soap in a pot of water with the parts and boil the parts will come out shinny like
new.
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The only part that failed on a coleman was the leather skirt on the plunger. If unused for a long period of time it would dry out and crack. You
couldn't pump enough pressure after that. I carried a 3-in-1 oil squeeze bottle in the camper mostly for that purpose.
A hissing coleman stove on an early baja morning is a treasured memory.
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I converted to Propane years ago. I pick up a propane converter from Campmor and it works well on the two burner. When I converted the three burner to
I was in Mexico and picked one up there, That thing rocks! It has been nicked named the Saturn V10 stove. I first time I used it we had a Aluminum
heat exchanger on a pot and it melted it. Converting to propane was the best things for cooking I have done.
I grew up on white gas and still use when I am not car camping, I will not be going back to white gas when car camping.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Marc
Haven't used my Coleman white gas stove or lanterns for years.
[Edited on 11-21-2014 by Marc] |
Yes, me too! Now, I'm wondering where I put them.... 
The SAME boiling water that softens the potato hardens the egg. It's about what you are made of NOT the circumstance.
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LOL Bob... getting old sucks!
When I began camping on my own (1974), propane stoves were already on the scene, so I never had a Coleman gasoline stove. However, our Nomad friend
HotSchott (of Guadalupe Canyon and Shell Island/ Nuevo Mazatlan camping trips) loves his big old Coleman stove and lanterns... he is a traditionalist
more than I!
HotSchott doesn't post here much (last time was 2011)... he used to post a lot through 2008, including this gem:
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posted on 11-14-2008 at 08:12 PM
People always laugh when they see that I stake my REI tent down with 15 stakes. You won't see my tent flying through the air! We have been in GC with
80 + MPH winds. After one storm several years ago there was not one Palo Verde that was not broken flat. The cholla was shredded and little cholla
balls were everywhere. The entire canyon smelled of broken cholla. If you have ever smelled it you will not forget it. The wind picked up one of the
metal outhouses and threw it over 300 feet into the canyon.
During Semana Santa about eight years ago there were probably 75 vehicles in the camps at sunset. A windstorm and rain started about 12:30 Sunday
morning and all you could hear is people screaming and stuff crashing through the trees. When we woke up the next morning there was not one other
vehicle in the camp - everyone left during the night. There were tents and tarps and camping gear in the tops of every palm tree. It was dead calm and
the peak was covered in snow. My aluminum tent poles were bent flat. That was the last Kelty tent I owned.
Wind and blowing sand have formed virtually every rock in that canyon and most of the Sierra Juarez. The wind can probably reach 100 MPH and it comes
straight down the canyon walls. 'Like the hand of God'.
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For many years now I have used a 3-gal bulk propane tank with a "tree" mounted on top of it, and a coleman (whatever) propane lantern on the top of
the "tree" and distribution hoses running out to my stove and heater (for my wife, not me) and it works like a charm, in my opinion. The lanterns
that have mantles that attach at the top and the bottom are best, and stand up to all the rough handling I normally give it, including the very rough
Baja back-roads. I have not broken a "mantle" for years, I think because I now always use the mantles that you tie at both ends. Also, I use only
after-market AMBER glass lens-----helps with the glare, and attracts less bugs. I also use aluminum-foil reflectors so that my light can be
directional, and does not annoy nearby campers.
So far all the LED camp-lights I have seen are hard for me to see by, a weird color, and I find exceptionally annoying and inadequate, as does my
wife. I don't own ANY LED-lights, NONE!!! and other peoples really annoy me in campgrounds. (another reason we usually camp out in the boonies, and
avoid "camp grounds")
Barry
[Edited on 12-11-2014 by Barry A.]
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