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Another crazy death at the border

WhackAMolE - 12-25-2014 at 08:50 PM

http://www.breitbart.com/california/2014/12/25/man-dies-afte...

Known criminal walks through the northbound checkpoint at San Ysidro, gets selected for secondary inspection, attacks the guards, they Tase him, he dies. Had heroin on him.

Just nuts, some of the stuff that goes on at the border.

woody with a view - 12-25-2014 at 09:00 PM

seems like a waste of resources!

why aren't there dogs standing there to sniff out the bad guys before another human has to put dude into his eternity?

joerover - 12-25-2014 at 09:15 PM

kill all heroin addicts yea

Ateo - 12-25-2014 at 09:46 PM

Do we have free will? Let's get deep.......................

In the meantime, I'm packing the rig for Ba-jah, as my son used to call it.

Merry Christmas.

bajabuddha - 12-25-2014 at 10:43 PM

something deep inside says whakamole and joerover are related somehow.....

just thinking what timing........for both.

Troll alert.

WhackAMolE - 12-25-2014 at 10:54 PM

Quote: Originally posted by bajabuddha  
something deep inside says whakamole and joerover are related somehow.....

just thinking what timing........for both.

Troll alert.


You got something deep inside alright. I don't even know you but you're an ignorant buttcrack. And you don't even know me, so what's your problem?

bajabuddha - 12-25-2014 at 11:17 PM

YOU. :smug:

Actually, I retract that statement, I don't have one.

[Edited on 12-26-2014 by bajabuddha]

WhackAMolE - 12-26-2014 at 12:19 AM

Quote: Originally posted by bajabuddha  
YOU. :smug:

Actually, I retract that statement, I don't have one.

[Edited on 12-26-2014 by bajabuddha]


A guy dies crossing the border, I link the article, and you pick a fight with me for no reason? Are you one of these expats who drinks too much? What exactly is this about? I'm really just kind of curious at this point.

chuckie - 12-26-2014 at 02:35 AM

Ah so? Wackamole doesn't want to be like joerover ??? WHY? Om ni padni Omni um....

MMc - 12-26-2014 at 04:11 AM

Wow! Bad Christmas for everybody involved. I am sure there is more to this then what we read in 1000 words. We (Nomads) will make it our own however.


[Edited on 12-26-2014 by MMc]

DaliDali - 12-26-2014 at 07:20 AM

"I fought the law and the law won"

A small hijack:

Santiago - 12-26-2014 at 07:29 AM

For those of you who have Amazon or iTunes, watch Anthony Bourdain's recent show on Massachusetts; he delves into his past heroin addiction and then goes to a town in mid-state where the heroin addiction rates among white, middle class families is high and growing. He draws a pretty clear line from the huge run-up of legitimate oxycontin use in the 1990s to the realization this it was addictive, doctors clamping down on refills and the addicts easily moving to heroin. I had no idea.

paranewbi - 12-26-2014 at 07:31 AM

Quote: Originally posted by woody with a view  
seems like a waste of resources!

why aren't there dogs standing there to sniff out the bad guys before another human has to put dude into his eternity?


Walked across last year and after check told to have a nice day...officer with k9 came at me with dog on leash when all of the sudden the dog lunged to my left with the officer on my right. I froze. In the flash of the moment the officer said "He's after the guy behind You" as he rounded me to the dogs side of me. That dog was fast and determined woody...I didn't even look back and stood outside trying to bring my heart rate back to normal! Even though I am total legit always that dog was comin' fast and looking right through me.

DENNIS - 12-26-2014 at 08:32 AM



I watched a drug dog alert on a vehicle in the line at San Ysidro. It was freakin' incredible. I thought that mutt was going to take out a wrench and dismantle the car.
Anyway....sounds like all those involved in yesterday's incident followed the script they had chosen. Too bad for the idiot, but tuff sheit.

AKgringo - 12-26-2014 at 08:45 AM

With a user name like Whackamole you just can't help but want to smack him down! After all, in the Baja News forum, he posted news about Baja! Oh wait, that's what we do here.
But then he offered an opinion about the news "Just nuts, some of the stuff that goes on at the border" Well I guess that isn't so outrageous, common Mole, give me something to whack!

[Edited on 12-26-2014 by AKgringo]

Criminal Druggie Done Dead

MrBillM - 12-26-2014 at 11:14 AM

Makes for an interesting Good News story.

Interesting only in that they applied non-lethal force with a lethal result.

No doubt, there will be some who whine over that.

Most will simply be satisfied with (or applaud) another Deceased Dreg.

David K - 12-26-2014 at 11:26 AM

Before they killed him with the stun gun, he was able to attack and put four border officers in the hospital. So, he didn't go down without a fight or was stunned for no reason.

This per TV news. As there were plenty of video monitors at the location, we shall see?

bajalearner - 12-26-2014 at 12:13 PM

Quote: Originally posted by woody with a view  
seems like a waste of resources!

why aren't there dogs standing there to sniff out the bad guys before another human has to put dude into his eternity?


Woody with all due respect, please don't tell the politician's they need to take more money from us to give to Homeland Security for more dogs or anything else. Alternately, how about demanding the CBP dismantle the CBP rescue units that don't do much of anything in reality except cost us millions. It's a redundant function. Empire building.

Also, 4 agents to the hospital??? I would bet the agents were treated for minor bo bo's and released or complaint of "back pain". It used to be part of the job. It can pay off for the officers' because they'll record it and it might lead to a disability award in the future. Reality!

In the end, one unarmed dirt bag went to jail for a warrant and possession and 4 employees needed to see a doctor. What a country.

bajaguy - 12-26-2014 at 12:19 PM

Quote: Originally posted by bajalearner  

"......In the end, one unarmed dirt bag went to jail for a warrant........"





Uh, the big jail in the sky, via the coroners office

JoeJustJoe - 12-26-2014 at 01:21 PM

I agree with bajalearner that probably the four border officers sustained minor bo bo's, although the papers are saying moderate injuries.

The thing is some companies send their employees to the emergency room, after hours, when they receive on-the-job injuries, and the US government has deep pockets, so I don't think it mean anything serious, that they were sent to the hospital.

C'mon four professional trained offices, against one unarmed guy, who was flagged for an outstanding warrant.

However, it looks like the border agents, were justified using force against this guy, and even using the "Taser," however the "Taser" has been implemented in many deaths, and according to the, American Heart Association’s Circulation, " the misuse of a Taser can cause sudden cardiac arrest and death."

So you just know, the border patrol agents were probably going nuts on the taser, and that's probably what killed him.

Of course, after a border patrol homicide, it's rare to hear the outcome of any investigation, and so this is probably the last we will hear about this story, unless the dead suspect had drugs in his system, and then for sure we will about hear that.
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Speaking of dogs, that work with homeland security. A few months back, I got back from an international trip, and they had a dog sniffing for food in the customs line coming back to the US, I don't know if the dog was also trained to sniff for drugs, but the dog was going nuts every time it smelled food, and then the jack booted thug agent, was all over the women's purses, searching for food contraband.

Most of the time the dog was wrong, but the jack-booted thug, made excuses for dog, saying that food was probably in the purse, but no longer there. However, when the dog, and his jack-booted agent thug, did find something like a bag of cookies, they found in this woman's purse, the border patrol agent, with a stern face would turn to the woman, and then ask her, did you declare this bag of cookies?

I thought for sure, the jack-booted thug homeland security agent, was going to drag the poor woman away, but he only made her declare the bag of cookies.

Well, it's good to know our tax dollars are at work, keeping the bad guys out of the USA.




[Edited on 12-26-2014 by JoeJustJoe]

aguachico - 12-26-2014 at 01:26 PM

One more junkie dealer dead. Good ridden. Bravo to the CBP
Next

MMc - 12-26-2014 at 02:40 PM

The agents that went to the hospital will be tested for HIV for the next 6 months or so if the junky was bleeding, and or they were bleeding. How about a little HIV for Christmas.
Tough day for everybody. I'm sure the agents we not looking to kill somebody when they came to work and I guessing the junky wasn't looking to die ether.

JoeJustJoe - 12-26-2014 at 02:55 PM

Quote: Originally posted by MMc  
The agents that went to the hospital will be tested for HIV for the next 6 months or so if the junky was bleeding, and or they were bleeding. How about a little HIV for Christmas.
Tough day for everybody. I'm sure the agents we not looking to kill somebody when they came to work and I guessing the junky wasn't looking to die ether.


Talk about HIV/AIDS myths and misconceptions.

You can't catch HIV just because a criminal suspect was bleeding, and a border agent might have touched him, during a fight.

bajabuddha - 12-26-2014 at 03:49 PM

Quote: Originally posted by soulpatch  
Quote: Originally posted by JoeJustJoe  

Talk about HIV/AIDS myths and misconceptions.

You can't catch HIV just because a criminal suspect was bleeding, and a border agent might have touched him, during a fight.


Well, if the agent had an open wound and a person being appreheded with HIV had an opened wound and bodily fluids were exchanged I would say that there is potential, however small or large, for a transmission of virus.

Isn't that why most healthcare professionals wear personal protective equipment.

That's what I am my co-workers did for the 1/4 century I was involved with street-level medicine.

Tell me I'm wrong.

Actually, the possibilities of infection under those circumstances are extremely low. Blood supply is like an artesian well; blood comes out, doesn't go back in. It's a 'pressurized system', and the virus must be injected, by one form of 'needle' or another. Our PPE in EMS didn't amount to much when stuck with a 'sharp', and that's where trouble begins. However Mr. Patch, I agree, if it's warm and wet, glove up.

{my edit} on second thought, there's a lot worse critters than the AIDS virus at that point; half a dozen hepatitis strains, TB, all kinds of bad juju that aren't as fragile as the HIV virus. Much more virulent and contagious, and if the guy was a slime ball, i'd be scrubbing down with disinfectant pronto. It's a risk all LEO's have to take when grappling.

[Edited on 12-26-2014 by bajabuddha]

JoeJustJoe - 12-26-2014 at 04:24 PM

Quote: Originally posted by soulpatch  
Quote: Originally posted by JoeJustJoe  

Talk about HIV/AIDS myths and misconceptions.

You can't catch HIV just because a criminal suspect was bleeding, and a border agent might have touched him, during a fight.


Well, if the agent had an open wound and a person being appreheded with HIV had an opened wound and bodily fluids were exchanged I would say that there is potential, however small or large, for a transmission of virus.

Isn't that why most healthcare professionals wear personal protective equipment.

That's what I am my co-workers did for the 1/4 century I was involved with street-level medicine.

Tell me I'm wrong.


You're wrong, but since you're involved with street-level medicine, I'm not going to get into why healthcare professionals wear personal protective equipment.

You also really can't catch an STD from a toilet seat, although it's probably more theoretically possible, especially with warts and crabs jumping around. But I feel better using a toilet gasket in public restrooms, because there are a few things you can catch in the bathroom.




[Edited on 12-26-2014 by JoeJustJoe]

MMc - 12-26-2014 at 06:11 PM

HIV was the first thing that came to mind. Fighting with a addict can cause health issues. I get into a fight with a junky, I'll be seeing a doctor quick.
My point is nobody wanted anybody to die, get hurt or to get sick because of a fight Christmas day. I hope you all had a great Christmas, and have Happy New Year.

woody with a view - 12-26-2014 at 07:11 PM

Quote: Originally posted by soulpatch  
You're splitting hairs, big dog.
A guy being forcibly restrained is not a toilet seat.

Low odds do not an impossibility make. People win the Lotto, no?

That's the problem when you throw out absolutes.

And, yes, I'd be far more afraid of HepC.
And, yes, transmittable bad-stuff was why we all wore PPE. Hell, we had CE's on it every few months.
Our PPE was top of the line. But, we were paid professionals and we were all highly aware of these issues.
I worried about sharps but the street-fighter covered in blood and vomit, well, those were the guys we were careful with. And, if they died they died, as long as they didn't give me something special to bring home to my family, well, I never lost any sleep or my appetite over it.

You guys continue on with your traditional BajaNomad peeing contest.
I won't.

Peace.


WORD!

joerover - 12-28-2014 at 12:48 PM

Quote: Originally posted by bajabuddha  
something deep inside says whakamole and joerover are related somehow.....

just thinking what timing........for both.

Troll alert.

Are you against people that hate herion addicts, hmmmm

the flu is passed by hand shake more than any other way.

note to cbp
kill all junkies please sir