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Sea of Cortez Hates Dodge Trucks

CortezBlue - 5-26-2015 at 07:02 AM

Tis the season, Memorial Day 2015

Near Pete's Camp in San Felipe, another American watched to many TV commercials, from Dodge, and dumped his 2014 pickup into a mud hole in the Sea of Cortez.

Don't folks get it, just because Sam Elliot, uses his deep voice to talk about a Dodge Ram truck, that it is still a Fiat Truck. Dodge has been on the bottom of the barrel for truck sales, FOR YEARS and it is obvious, they can't swim either!:P

Dodge, Ford, Chevy....and Toyota

bajaguy - 5-26-2015 at 07:05 AM

How many trucks did not end up in the mudhole......It's not the truck........it's the idiot behind the wheel

ehall - 5-26-2015 at 07:15 AM

No pictures?

Udo - 5-26-2015 at 08:36 AM

May I ask the same question:?::?::?::saint::?::?::?:


Quote: Originally posted by ehall  
No pictures?

Pompano - 5-26-2015 at 12:00 PM

About those Dodges. The Cortez doesn't hate this one. On the contrary, I can only speak for myself..and will. Take care of your stuff. My Dodge Cummins 4x4 has over 500,000 miles on it and has spent half it's life next to salt water, where it gets constant washdowns. It's running strong today and likely will continue with proper maintenance...even working as a tugboat at times. ;)


blackwolfmt - 5-26-2015 at 12:20 PM

Good Job Pomp:cool:

Udo - 5-26-2015 at 02:20 PM

Thanks, Roger!

vgabndo - 5-26-2015 at 06:03 PM

I filled the tank on my '01 Cummins at the "no name" station across from Home Depot in La Mesa after the Super Bowl and could easily have made Bahia Asuncion on that tank. I did fill in Viz. 'cuz that's the right thing to do. He's a youngster at 200,000 and I don't take that heavy truck on the beach. 'Cuz that's the wrong thing to do. :lol:

[Edited on 5-27-2015 by vgabndo]

Pompano - 5-26-2015 at 07:47 PM

Different strokes. I bought my Dodge as a truck, not for putting around. When I hit that igniton, my truck voices say "Try..and the world is yours."

Here's mine 4500 miles north from the last photo and we're both breathing easy. I can recommend Dodge/Cummins as a workhorse.


bajadogs - 5-26-2015 at 09:32 PM

Pompano and vgabndo, the 2500 cummins is my dream truck. Just makes sense. I'm still pushing around a gas heavy 1500.

To the OP. Fiat? Really? Sam Elliot made them get stuck? I can see that. People are lame... so, a hummer would get stuck too. Machismo is a funny thing. i don't care anymore.

Cliffy - 5-26-2015 at 09:42 PM

Pomp
Hope you have a BIG air horn on that "train" of yours!

HA,Ha....LOL

captkw - 5-26-2015 at 10:01 PM

My 77 dodge one ton with a 360 has over 400k !! HEADS HAVE NEVER BEEN OFF AND THE TRANNY HAS NEVER BEEN OUT !! oppps !! damn caps.....my 2000 3/4 ton 360 w 175,000 runs like new,,,,the cummins is a DAMN fine motor tho..but my tow weight is low....if you want to throw your money out the window get a FORD P/U !! your find out why ford truck Techs drive chevy's,toys,Dodge..they older fords where good..But,,alas,,No More...the only truck out there that has to have the cab removed for about anything !!:lol:

SlyOnce - 5-27-2015 at 09:32 AM

My Baja Rig is a 1997 Dodge Dakota Sport with 218 K miles, V6, runs great fun to drive. Its a heavy truck, 18 MPG. I've never had a breakdown.

brewer - 5-29-2015 at 08:42 AM

Pompano said it.

I have a '97 w/ 235,000 4x4
And a '92 w/ 190,000 2wd.

Dodge Cummins.

These will be my trucks until the day I die.

durrelllrobert - 5-29-2015 at 08:53 AM

Quote: Originally posted by ehall  
No pictures?



David K - 5-29-2015 at 08:55 AM

Does anyone here own a Honda Ridgeline? Would they admit it if they did?

chuckie - 5-29-2015 at 09:26 AM

My son has one, BUT its not a truck, more like a Tacoma.....My 96 Dodge Cummins will turn over 400, 000 miles this year by the end of the Bird season....

TMW - 5-29-2015 at 09:34 AM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Does anyone here own a Honda Ridgeline? Would they admit it if they did?


Steve Kassanyi (sp) known as Dr. Checker owned one before his passing. Steve was race director or some such position with SCORE in the 80s and 90s. I think he was also the president of the Checker Off-Road car club at one time.

msteve1014 - 5-29-2015 at 10:40 AM

I'm sure it is a fine car, but the guy that bought my race kart from me had to make 2 trips to get everything home in one. We also had to remove wheels and side pods because they were too wide. I don't know how he ever thought he was getting to the track with it.

Von - 5-29-2015 at 10:42 AM

What about Subarus?

Subarus?

AKgringo - 5-29-2015 at 11:08 AM

I had a couple of the early 80s GL models, one wagon, and one hatch back.
They were wonderful, simple little cars!
Subaru screwed up when they quit putting the low range option and adjustable suspension in them. With the rear torsion bar and front struts jacked up, and oversize tires, they were surprisingly good crawlers!

[Edited on 5-29-2015 by AKgringo]

Von - 5-29-2015 at 11:13 AM

They do have that CVT low range at the moment. Im currently driving an Outback and my daughter got my older impreza. never gets stuck. <yet> lol~

AKgringo - 5-29-2015 at 11:20 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Von  
They do have that CVT low range at the moment. Im currently driving an Outback and my daughter got my older impreza. never gets stuck. <yet> lol~


Good to know, I thought it was extinct! Now if they could just put out a no frills, easy to work on model....

BTW, If you never get stuck, you're not trying hard enough!

[Edited on 5-29-2015 by AKgringo]

wessongroup - 5-29-2015 at 12:27 PM

Go with the "diver" and taking "care" of the vehicle .. .

Pictures ... here's a video



just grabbed the first one off youtube

had an old 74 Dodge 360 3/4 ... used for cutting wood for 10 years ... couldn't kill it :biggrin::biggrin:

Will say, I could watch the fuel gauge go down when coming back with a full load, truck and trailer .. filled with wood :lol::lol:

Firewood truck

AKgringo - 5-29-2015 at 01:14 PM

Well while we are wandering around the original topic, I feel it might be OK to hijack a little bit.
I am currently cutting oak for next winters heat in Northern CA. My truck.......a Kia Sportage pulling the 4x6 foot trailer I took down Baja last October. After dropping a few trees, I use the Kia to skid the logs to a landing where it is easier to limb and buck them up. It will fit through places a full size truck can't go.
With the back seat removed, and the trailer hooked up, I can haul a half cord at a time. A younger version of myself might not be satisfied with just a half cord, but at 68, that is plenty of work for one day!
The older Sportage (2002 and older) is a better little truck than it is a little car!

Edit; I should add that the braking is marginal with that load (approx 2200 lbs)

[Edited on 5-29-2015 by AKgringo]

norte - 5-29-2015 at 01:45 PM

Kia makes a truck?

Kia Truck....not really

AKgringo - 5-29-2015 at 02:23 PM

Quote: Originally posted by norte  
Kia makes a truck?


The 2002 and older models were built on a Mazda light truck drive train and engine. They made a four door SUV, and a two door soft top. I have both.
They are a body on a frame construction, with light truck axles. I bought them because it was the toughest little economy car I could get for the money, but there is no service or support in Mexico for them.


norte - 5-29-2015 at 02:27 PM

Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo  
Quote: Originally posted by norte  
Kia makes a truck?


The 2002 and older models were built on a Mazda light truck drive train and engine. They made a four door SUV, and a two door soft top. I have both.
They are a body on a frame construction, with light truck axles. I bought them because it was the toughest little economy car I could get for the money, but there is no service or support in Mexico for them.


Oh OK. I thought you said/meant a truck.




Kia kind of truck like

AKgringo - 5-29-2015 at 03:48 PM

I mean, I am skidding logs and crawling around off road with a half a cord of green oak! My old Subaru could never pull that off.

Dodge trucks

captkw - 5-29-2015 at 07:31 PM

As a mech I like simple, well built, tried and trued..for me a truck dosnt need all the foo, foo bs !! Nothing wrong with a truck,, just a truck....BTW, anyone notice all the semi's that are now VOLVO ?? just look for the "bar" on the grill

4Cata - 5-29-2015 at 11:28 PM

Hummers do indeed get stuck and yes, it's a reflection of who's behind the wheel. When I was last at Pete's Camp, renting the house with the marvelous deck and view, a Hummer came in late at night, made two wide a turn into it's palapa/parking area, and got REALLY stuck below the high tide line. I watched, chortling to myself, as the occupants, a tribe of 7 male yuppies, worked like dogs with no luck, and had to go get the Pete's Camp bulldozer driver up to get them out before they joined the ranks of the buried, but not forgotten, vehicles. Very interesting to listen to them at the bar the next day. Just hope they tipped him really well.

larryseawa - 5-30-2015 at 01:52 AM

Dodge Ram trucks rock! We have driven our 2010 Ram with Cummins all over the Baja including the beaches. No problems ever and using Pemex diesel.
The big difference on our vehicle is we have manual transmission and I installed 19.5" all weather Michelins on Rickson wheels and air lifts. We have high clearance and excellent traction. With the on board air compressor I can deflate tires down to 15 pounds and traverse most sandy conditions and then re-inflate for the road.
Also with the stick shift I can also start out in ANY gear and lug forward. The Cummins has so much torque it will pull strong at very low RPM.
Our dealer in LaPaz also has all the modern computer diagnostics and the mechanic there LOVES our truck.
After our warranty expires my next upgrade will be an after market chip that will increase power and mileage by about 30%.
Oh by the way - we never try anything stupid, especially in remote areas..

Marc - 5-30-2015 at 08:25 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Pompano  
About those Dodges. The Cortez doesn't hate this one. On the contrary, I can only speak for myself..and will. Take care of your stuff. My Dodge Cummins 4x4 has over 500,000 miles on it and has spent half it's life next to salt water, where it gets constant washdowns. It's running strong today and likely will continue with proper maintenance...even working as a tugboat at times. ;)



My son has the same truck and he loves it!

David K - 5-30-2015 at 08:47 AM

Seems that besides Toyota, Dodge is also able to have strong customer loyalty. Quality, reliability, and performance is how a brand gets such high appreciation. Seems that most of the Dodge (Ram) Truck loyalty is with the diesel models? Are the gasoline trucks as highly praised by their owners?

Udo - 5-30-2015 at 04:36 PM

I don't know if this Dodge truck is gas or diesel, but the Sea of Cortez hates it no matter what.



AKgringo - 5-30-2015 at 04:57 PM

There's the money shot we were waiting for! I don't think airing down the tires is going to save this guy. Nothing left to do but wait for the tide to come in.
I have seen similar situations in Cooke Inlet, AK. The tide change up there is almost double what the Sea of Cortez experiences.

Udo - 5-30-2015 at 08:08 PM

Hola AKgringo, amigo.

I have been to San Felipe and Puerto Peņasco dozens of times since the seventies, and I have seen 23' tides come and go.
I have also been to Cook Inlet and the general vicinity about a dozen times.
I think that both places have about the same average tide levels. My AK travels have taken me there also since the seventies.

Tight lines!

Hola Udo!

AKgringo - 5-30-2015 at 10:01 PM

One of the first things I did when I got a Zodiac in the mid 80s, was to do a float fishing trip down the Little Susitna river. The plan was to drift and camp for two days, then when we reached the mouth of the river, it would be an easy crossing back to the Port of Anchorage.
I did not even think about a tide chart on a river trip, and had not yet learned that the spring tides are some of the highest of the year. We reached the mouth at low tide on a day that turned out to be a minus five foot, and a plus thirty three foot tide change.
The river channel at that point was steep, gooey silt banks, and the wind was blowing us back up stream. I put the motor down and powered down river until it became apparent that it was way too rough for a safe crossing back to Anchorage, so we retreated back up river to the last tree line to set up another camp. It took one tide cycle to float the Zodiac up to a point where I could beach it, and another high tide to launch it again.
The only salmon I got, we hit with the prop trying to get back up river, but I still came away with a trip to remember, and learn from!
Thirty eight feet, who knew?

Turn again arm

captkw - 5-31-2015 at 07:55 AM

My very first trip to AK was in a ford F250 with a four barrel on a 460..would turn it off and start walking away and hear a LOUD BURB !! That HoG drank gas like it was air !! Baluga's and Tidal bores..The Dodge gas 360 is a fine motor and so is the cummin's with the extra weight and noise and pulling power...any truck cannot argue with a cummins !! Funny how ford truck guys shut up and be quiet when you say "Cummin's"....

460 Ford

AKgringo - 5-31-2015 at 08:47 AM

I have one of those pigs, (8 mpg tops) yet I am using a Kia with a trailer to get my firewood! My dad bought it new in 79, so for sentimental reasons, I have kept it around. It only has 116k on it, because watching the gas gauge is like a meter in a taxi.
It is still a nice ride, and is handy sometimes, but with all that power and weight over the front axle, it is terrible off pavement!
I have a few trees to thin out on a road with good access, so I guess I will use it today and over load it just to make the Kia jealous!

footnote, My dad bought this rig to haul his camper. This truck has been all over Mexico, mainland and Baja.

edit; This really has nothing to do with the original post, sorry Cortezblue!

[Edited on 5-31-2015 by AKgringo]

David K - 5-31-2015 at 09:49 AM

This thread had me searching for a list of the world's most extreme tidal range... and while I found one with the top 5 and then one with the top 50 reporting sites (many were in the same area, so it didn't provide the top 50 unique locations), so the upper Gulf of California wasn't included.

https://top5ofanything.com/list/f602f155/Highest-Tides-on-Ea...

I did find a super site for finding the tide graph, and it is live with a blinking dot on where on the graph the tide is now. Here is the link for San Felipe... and you can change the location for your Baja spot: http://www.tide-forecast.com/locations/San-Felipe-2/tides/la...

Of interest, it says the maximum tidal range there is 22.5 ft. (6.85 m.).

The El Golfo range (at the top of the gulf) is 26.3 ft. (8.01 m.)

That makes the gulf very great among world tides, but it is half the maximum range found in Canada (16 meters, Bay of Fundy).

AKgringo - 5-31-2015 at 10:31 AM

Thanks for the link David, I wish it still showed the highest 'spring' tides, because that is what I blundered into. I always thought Cook inlet was number two behind the Bay of Fundy.
Perhaps the reason the Knik Arm of cook inlet is so extreme is because it has several major rivers that could be near flood stage with spring run off at the same time as the peak tides.

vgabndo - 5-31-2015 at 01:20 PM

Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo  
Quote: Originally posted by Von  
They do have that CVT low range at the moment. Im currently driving an Outback and my daughter got my older impreza. never gets stuck. <yet> lol~


Good to know, I thought it was extinct! Now if they could just put out a no frills, easy to work on model....

BTW, If you never get stuck, you're not trying hard enough!

[Edited on 5-29-2015 by AKgringo]


Subaru... https://www.facebook.com/outtasightracing

[Edited on 5-31-2015 by vgabndo]

Turnagain arm VS cortez

captkw - 5-31-2015 at 07:59 PM

Hola David,, I Guess you have not spent any time in AK. the Tide shift's make the sea of cortez seem "gentle" by any thought or reason... when you seen a "Tidal Bore" and the volume and rush..its something to Behold..I am under the thought that the RMS/AVG. tide range for the "turn again arm is 28 ft and AK poster is correct about the bay of fundy... Which I am looking forward to seaing !! K&T:cool:

Udo - 5-31-2015 at 08:21 PM

Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo  

Thirty eight feet, who knew?



That beats San Felipe and Puerto Peņasco by at least 7 feet. All the time I spent in AK, I never encountered a 30' tide.
During my spring days, I was in Anchorage and Yukon area.

Udo - 5-31-2015 at 08:27 PM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
This thread had me searching for a list of the world's most extreme tidal range... and while I found one with the top 5 and then one with the top 50 reporting sites (many were in the same area, so it didn't provide the top 50 unique locations), so the upper Gulf of California wasn't included.

https://top5ofanything.com/list/f602f155/Highest-Tides-on-Ea...

I did find a super site for finding the tide graph, and it is live with a blinking dot on where on the graph the tide is now. Here is the link for San Felipe... and you can change the location for your Baja spot: http://www.tide-forecast.com/locations/San-Felipe-2/tides/la...

Of interest, it says the maximum tidal range there is 22.5 ft. (6.85 m.).

The El Golfo range (at the top of the gulf) is 26.3 ft. (8.01 m.)

That makes the gulf very great among world tides, but it is half the maximum range found in Canada (16 meters, Bay of Fundy).



WOW!

I know it would take of someone's resolve, such as yours, to put in the proper research for world tides.
Thanks for the information and your diligent research...you are the tops in my book!

David K - 5-31-2015 at 08:33 PM

Quote: Originally posted by captkw  
Hola David,, I Guess you have not spent any time in AK. the Tide shift's make the sea of cortez seem "gentle" by any thought or reason... when you seen a "Tidal Bore" and the volume and rush..its something to Behold..I am under the thought that the RMS/AVG. tide range for the "turn again arm is 28 ft and AK poster is correct about the bay of fundy... Which I am looking forward to seaing !! K&T:cool:


Other than flying over Greenland on my way to Egypt, the furthest north I have been on land is Vancouver Canada, eh?

DK

captkw - 5-31-2015 at 08:38 PM

Your a hoot !! If you get a chance ck out ALASKA...you will not regret it !! Thanks for ALL your posts..K&T:cool:

Next high tide in Anchorage

AKgringo - 5-31-2015 at 08:45 PM

Tomorrow morning the high tide at the port of Anchorage will be 30.13 feet. The following low will be -1.94 feet. It will be slightly higher going a little further up Knick Arm. The highs and lows will be greater closer to the solstice.

Edit That is the NOAA forecast, wind and river conditions could affect it.

[Edited on 6-1-2015 by AKgringo]

David K - 5-31-2015 at 08:50 PM

Photos please AKgringo!:D

AKgringo - 5-31-2015 at 08:56 PM

D.K., I am not there yet! May and June is my favorite time of the year there, but I am stuck in Northern CA with an old dog that is not well enough to travel.
Beside that, I still haven't spent the time to learn how to post photos.

Dodge Trucks

captkw - 6-1-2015 at 06:15 AM

If you Really want to take that truck outback...Like I have..Hell BAJA in 78 was outback..CK out Bodie, CA. BURN'S Oregon...HYDER, AK or damn near anywhere in AK....LOL ! then you know your truck works well !!:cool:

David K - 6-1-2015 at 06:39 AM

Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo  
D.K., I am not there yet! May and June is my favorite time of the year there, but I am stuck in Northern CA with an old dog that is not well enough to travel.
Beside that, I still haven't spent the time to learn how to post photos.


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Udo - 6-11-2015 at 08:50 PM

HERE ARE SOME ADDITIONAL PHOTOS OF THE DODGE THAT GOT LOST IN SAN FELIPE










carlosg - 6-15-2015 at 08:40 PM

Quote: Originally posted by CortezBlue  
Tis the season, Memorial Day 2015

Near Pete's Camp in San Felipe, another American watched to many TV commercials, from Dodge, and dumped his 2014 pickup into a mud hole in the Sea of Cortez.

Don't folks get it, just because Sam Elliot, uses his deep voice to talk about a Dodge Ram truck, that it is still a Fiat Truck. Dodge has been on the bottom of the barrel for truck sales, FOR YEARS and it is obvious, they can't swim either!:P


...this guy don't care if its a Fiat or not....


A Husband went to the sheriff's department to report that his wife was missing.


Husband: My wife is missing. She went shopping yesterday and has not come home.

Sergeant: What is her height?

Husband: I'm not sure. A little over five-feet tall.

Sergeant: Weight?

Husband: Don't know. Not slim, not really fat.

Sergeant: Color of eyes?

Husband: Sort of brown I think. Never really noticed.

Sergeant: Color of hair?

Husband: Changes a couple times a year. Maybe dark brown now. I can't remember.

Sergeant: What was she wearing?

Husband: Could have been pants, or maybe a skirt or shorts. I don't know exactly.

Sergeant: What kind of car did she go in?

Husband: She went in my truck.

Sergeant: What kind of truck was it?

Husband: A 2007, 6.7L Cummins Turbo Diesel, Automatic Transmission, SLT Package, 4x4, Quad Cab, Fog Lamps, Tow Mirrors, Sliding Rear Glass, Power Windows and Locks and climate controlled air conditioning. It has a custom matching white cover for the bed, which has a matching aftermarket bed liner. Custom leather 6-way seats and "Bubba" floor mats. Trailering package with gold hitch and special wiring hook-ups, CD Player and DVD with full GPS navigation, satellite radio receiver, 23-channel CB radio, six cup holders, a USB port, and four power outlets...

...I also added special alloy wheels and off-road Michelins. It has custom chrome running boards and indirect wheel well lighting...

At this point the husband began to choke up...

Sergeant: Don't worry, buddy. We'll find your truck!!!;D...

David K - 6-16-2015 at 07:45 AM

Good one Carlos!:bounce:

CortezBlue - 6-18-2015 at 05:02 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Udo  
I don't know if this Dodge truck is gas or diesel, but the Sea of Cortez hates it no matter what.




THATS THE ONE