BajaNomad - Port Angeles crossing

Port Angeles crossing

barniclebob - 10-11-2015 at 12:36 PM

I was detained and turned back @ the Victoria USA crossing for no apparent reason on Friday night. The female border guard seemed to take great pleasure in making my life difficult because she could!!!!!Over Zealous would be kind words for her behaviour.She found nothing about me except that I was denied entry once back in 1993.So now the onus is for me to prove that I don't have a criminal record.Hope the RCMP can provide this paper work after this long weekend holiday and let me go on my way to be with you fine folks ???FRUSTRATING THOUGH!!!!ARGGGGGGGGGGGGGg

bajagrouper - 10-11-2015 at 01:21 PM

What has this got to do with Baja?
Puerto Angeles is a long way from Puerto Lopez Mateos......

David K - 10-11-2015 at 02:35 PM

Trying to get to Baja, I would imagine?

I am sorry about the run-in you had with the big government we have down here, barniclebob! Can you tell us what it was in 1993 that kept you out of the "land of the free"? Nomads love to have stuff to chew on!

Cisco - 10-11-2015 at 03:11 PM

Quote: Originally posted by barniclebob

I was detained and turned back @ the Victoria USA crossing for no apparent reason on Friday night. The female border guard seemed to take great pleasure in making my life difficult because she could!!!!!Over Zealous would be kind words for her behaviour.She found nothing about me except that I was denied entry once back in 1993.So now the onus is for me to prove that I don't have a criminal record.Hope the RCMP can provide this paper work after this long weekend holiday and let me go on my way to be with you fine folks ???FRUSTRATING THOUGH!!!!ARGGGGGGGGGGGGGg

"The female border guard seemed to take great pleasure in making my life difficult because she could!!!!"

There's your answer.

Bajahowodd - 10-11-2015 at 04:17 PM

barniclebob - 10-12-2015 at 08:24 AM

Yeah back in 93 I was going to get cheap gas and dairy @ the Sumas border since I was living in Chilliwack and the border guard told me I couldn't enter the land of the free and go back to Canada. Cause he could I guess??So that red flag 25 years later is causing me grief .Lovely time being had @ Walmart parking lot for 4 days!!!!Look forward to getting down to the Baja ASAP

bajaguy - 10-12-2015 at 08:30 AM

So you are not allowed into/through the US because you tried to buy gas and milk in 1993..... :?:

Methinks there is more to the story.

Quote: Originally posted by barniclebob

Yeah back in 93 I was going to get cheap gas and dairy @ the Sumas border since I was living in Chilliwack and the border guard told me I couldn't enter the land of the free and go back to Canada. Cause he could I guess??So that red flag 25 years later is causing me grief .Lovely time being had @ Walmart parking lot for 4 days!!!!Look forward to getting down to the Baja ASAP

DianaT - 10-12-2015 at 09:15 AM

Quote: Originally posted by David K

Trying to get to Baja, I would imagine?

I am sorry about the run-in you had with the big government we have down here, barniclebob! Can you tell us what it was in 1993 that kept you out of the "land of the free"? Nomads love to have stuff to chew on!

Having passed through a number of US and Canadian border stations this summer, the Canadian border people are NO different than the US border people --- some are very friendly and some are real jerks ---- the statement of it being because we have big government is really nonsensical and another one of your trolls ---- and it worked! :saint:

barniclebob I hope you get it all straightened out soon, and frankly, what happened in 1993 is no one's business.

We are in Montana now, but don't think we will hit the border this trip. Our next border will probably be Mexico and they also and very nice border people and some real jerks. Back to enjoying our travels and retirement that our investments have made possible.

[Edited on 10-12-2015 by DianaT]

dtbushpilot - 10-12-2015 at 11:04 AM

Quote: Originally posted by DianaT

Quote: Originally posted by David K

You're the only one who bit Diane....

durrelllrobert - 10-12-2015 at 12:10 PM

Hope you don't have to go through what we did. In 2007 I married my Canadian wife who had been traveling from Canada to Baja for the past 15+ years without incident. However I decided to take a road trip to Edmonton to pickup some of her personal belongings. When we tried to cross into the US at the Koots/Sweetgrass, Mt POE the CBP guy looked at all the stuff in my truck and asked if we were married. When I answered yes they removed her from my truck and deported her back to Canada. Then when I tried to cross back into Canad I was denied entry because they new that my wife had been deported. So I continued back to Baja alone and she had to get a non-stop flight from Calgary to MX City and then to TJ where I picked her up a week later. Once she had that flag on her Canadian passport she could no longer enter the US until she got a US permanent residence card which took 2+ years, about $4000 and 2 trips to Juarez for interviews.

PS: the official record of this incident stated that she was trying to illegaly imigrate to the US even though I showed plenty of evidence that our home was in Baja; not the US.

[Edited on 10-12-2015 by durrelllrobert]

barniclebob - 10-12-2015 at 12:47 PM

Wow Bob,makes my story pretty lame!!Just posted this story since there were other folks in the line-up heading to the Baja and probably wanted to know what was going on??Will try again tomorrow and yes Sherie I have some Salmon for you!!Ha-ha

ligui - 10-12-2015 at 12:49 PM

I've never meet a border patrol i thought was any good . Big ego"s and little common sense .

I just keep smiling and nodding while i remember that they make chit for pay .

The brains match the pay . Guess you get what you pay for .

KurtG - 10-12-2015 at 01:00 PM

Quote: Originally posted by ligui

I've never meet a border patrol i thought was any good . Big ego"s and little common sense .

I just keep smiling and nodding while i remember that they make chit for pay .

The brains match the pay . Guess you get what you pay for .

This may be a case where perception becomes your reality. In dozens of crossings over more than 40 years I have had only a couple of problems with the US officers. Many are simply straightforward which, I suppose, could be viewed as aggressive but I have not found that to be the case. As with any law enforcement agency,IMHO, there are 5-10% who never should have been given a badge but I seem to rarely meet them.

durrelllrobert - 10-12-2015 at 03:00 PM

Quote: Originally posted by ligui

Regular GS Pay Scale for CBP Officers???
Does anyone know why CBP officers receive the regular GS pay scale currently at $26,699 for GS 5 opposed to the LE GS pay scale currently $32,933 for GS 5? If CBP officers are not considered law enforcement what does the government considers them? Are not CBP officers at least on the same level as LE Park Rangers? Stopping drugs and weapons of mass destruction from interring the U.S. vs. making sure hikers stay on the trail?? I am on the outside looking in. Someone please explain.

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The salary range for an ICE Special Agent is $40,000 – $68,000. There is an added Law Enforcement Availability Pay and ICE agents qualify for Federal benefits. Retirement is at age 50 or after 20 years of service.

[Edited on 10-12-2015 by durrelllrobert]

Hey Barniclebob

frizkie - 10-13-2015 at 11:00 PM

Very interesting reading your post re Port Angeles. I cross there every year and have done for 15 plus years and will be crossing in two weeks....I was wondering if this was as you were in Victoria waiting for the ferry or was it on the US side???

BajaLuna - 10-14-2015 at 12:15 AM

sorry to hear of your problems at the border.

I know the feeling, I couldn't get into Canada once, at a small border crossing in Montana...not because of anything really, just because THEY said that I was planning to go into the country and stay and work there. Because I was married and traveling alone, not with my husband, they thought I was on the run. They kept asking me why I was traveling alone. Ummm because I've traveled all over the U.S. alone since my late teens, yes women do travel alone, sheesh. I was harassed, treated like a criminal...which I have no criminal record whatsoever.

I kid you not, it was so CRAZY! They even called my Canadian friends who were waiting for me at a restaurant on the Canadian side to vouche for me, who had traveled from Sask to meet me. But still wouldn't let me in.

But I really think it had to do with all the African and middle eastern drums I was carrying as I was going to a drumming festival, I think they red-flagged me because of the drums. This was right after 9-11. Although I have crossed into British Columbia many times with a trunk load of drums with never a problem, but these guys were Yahoo's.

I hope it works out for you!! Good luck!

David K - 10-14-2015 at 06:30 AM

You got "drummed out" of Canada, eh?

barniclebob - 10-14-2015 at 09:56 AM

So the adventure continues.RCMP in Langford sent me back to Parksville (home town) for fingerprinting in search of a criminal record.What happened in 1993 was possession of .01 gram of Marijuana showed up on my radar from years ago. That signalled a red flag???Since then I,ve gotten a pardon so nothing shows up anymore.Thinking of using the Bellingham border crossing next time out??Hope they don't read this stuff ha-ha the big fat female border guard said to me that things could be worst if I had been flagged by an ugly women.Instead I was getting the full package !!!Really had to bite my tongue

micah202 - 10-14-2015 at 02:46 PM

...believe me Barney,,they're playing 'nice' so far, if the US border has allowed you to return to canada to obtain verification of a clean criminal record. Protocol now is to require an I-192 form, which takes a ~$500 fee, requires crim search in both canada and us,, and then -months- of wait for the US to then declare,,''ohh, no record afterall,, we declare you not inadmissible''. Their stupid 'not inadmissible' letter must then be shown each and every time you cross the border,,,,and renewed each 5 year$$$!!

An 1-192 requi$ition can be issued for an affirmative answer to ...''have you ever smoked pot?'' ,,,or for the ''suspicion that you -might- have a criminal record'' :fire:

...good luck with getting on with your trip,, call it an exercise in tolerance?

...Think of the poor blokes who drive down with family, get dinged for a 40yo possession charge on their way back north.... better hope the wife drives!

[Edited on 10-14-2015 by micah202]

port Angeles is a long way from Baja????

frizkie - 10-14-2015 at 07:58 PM

Geez, Rick .... we don't all go to Baja from California ya know. Sometimes people have to drive a wee bit further.

mtgoat666 - 10-15-2015 at 05:30 AM

Canada denies entry to gringos with criminal convictions.. Just saying.

Remember:

Don't do the crime if you can't do the time!

micah202 - 10-16-2015 at 12:09 PM

Quote: Originally posted by barniclebob

So the adventure continues.RCMP in Langford sent me back to Parksville (home town) for fingerprinting in search of a criminal record.What happened in 1993 was possession of .01 gram of Marijuana showed up on my radar from years ago. That signalled a red flag???Since then I,ve gotten a pardon so nothing shows up anymore.Thinking of using the Bellingham border crossing next time out??Hope they don't read this stuff ha-ha the big fat female border guard said to me that things could be worst if I had been flagged by an ugly women.Instead I was getting the full package !!!Really had to bite my tongue

...any luck yet!?

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monoloco - 10-16-2015 at 04:29 PM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666

Canada denies entry to gringos with criminal convictions.. Just saying.

Remember:

Don't do the crime if you can't do the time!

Including DUI's.

micah202 - 10-16-2015 at 04:49 PM

Quote: Originally posted by monoloco

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666

Canada denies entry to gringos with criminal convictions.. Just saying.

Remember:

Don't do the crime if you can't do the time!

Including DUI's.

....for the US customs, ''the crime'' might be smoking a joint wrong place, wrong time 40 years ago.

Some of you seem to be inferring some pretty high moralism,,,jus'sayin.

barniclebob - 10-17-2015 at 09:26 AM

Barb got your email but don't know how to send a reply???Yes it happened in Victoria while waiting to board the Coho like I do every year.Hopefully when I get this criminal record check they will leave me alone???Should be traveling by next weekend???

Howard - 10-17-2015 at 09:28 AM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666

Canada denies entry to gringos with criminal convictions.. Just saying.

Remember:

Don't do the crime if you can't do the time!

Then how do some professional baseball players get in to play in Toronto, etc.? Out of those ballplayers there just has to be some knuckleheads that fit the rejection rules.

[Edited on 10-17-2015 by Howard]

durrelllrobert - 10-17-2015 at 11:31 AM

Quote: Originally posted by monoloco

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666

Canada denies entry to gringos with criminal convictions.. Just saying.

Remember:

Don't do the crime if you can't do the time!

Including DUI's.

micah202 - 10-17-2015 at 12:26 PM

Quote: Originally posted by barniclebob

..Hopefully when I get this criminal record check they will leave me alone???Should be traveling by next weekend???

....still waiting on the record check? Yeh I guess it takes some 'processing' time and of course snailmail. Hopefully that's the end of it.

Me's jealous even of your challenges....I'm heading in for knee replacement surgery on wedsday

[Edited on 10-17-2015 by micah202]

barniclebob - 10-29-2015 at 08:16 AM

Just an update :finally got my RCMP criminal record check saying no criminal record found. Rush back to the border folks 2 hours away thinking that would solve the problem but no no I now need to pay $600. US and get a waiver .That takes 3 months and is only good for 1 year. Talk about anal!!!!Guess ill fly and buy a motor home there??

redmesa - 10-29-2015 at 08:30 AM

The world of computer data collection and sharing is going to get increasingly more problematic. My husband was denied a NEXUS pass because of a drunk and disorderly issue when he was 18 (he did not even know it was registered). That was 50 years ago. Soon they will be able to tell where we have been, where we are going, what we did there, how much money we spent and for how long down to the last second and nickel. We are in the Dark Age of Computer Control.

micah202 - 10-30-2015 at 12:29 AM

Quote: Originally posted by barniclebob

Just an update :finally got my RCMP criminal record check saying no criminal record found. Rush back to the border folks 2 hours away thinking that would solve the problem but no no I now need to pay $600. US and get a waiver .That takes 3 months and is only good for 1 year. Talk about anal!!!!Guess ill fly and buy a motor home there??

crap,,I was worried about that. Whaddabummer. :wow:

that price keeps marching upwards,, the renewal more frequent,,, and the 'handling' of cases all point to cash grab.
a further little annoyance is the is the passport tag they give you,,another ~$15 renewal fee every 6 months, and be sure to get it to them before it expires :mad:

...the I=192 waiver used to be 'permanent', but can be issued for anywhere between 1 and 5 years nowadays. I got a 5 year, perhaps because I was able to go heavy on testimonial letters from americans....something I'd suggest if you know some folks,especially if any are lawyers, professionals.

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micah202 - 10-30-2015 at 12:35 AM

Quote: Originally posted by redmesa

The world of computer data collection and sharing is going to get increasingly more problematic. My husband was denied a NEXUS pass because of a drunk and disorderly issue when he was 18 (he did not even know it was registered). That was 50 years ago. Soon they will be able to tell where we have been, where we are going, what we did there, how much money we spent and for how long down to the last second and nickel. We are in the Dark Age of Computer Control.

...yes it's quite amazing what free reign 'homeland security' has. ...just typing those two words brings an alert, (thank you google). Arrest, no charge,,,,a discharge,,,doesn't matter,, it's part of your 'record' at the border.

George Orwell was an optimist. :no:

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[Edited on 10-30-2015 by micah202]