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door open to legalize pot in Mexico

rts551 - 11-4-2015 at 03:55 PM

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/05/world/americas/mexico-supr...

gnukid - 11-4-2015 at 04:08 PM

The article seems to imply this applies to the 4 people in a club who sued for the right to grow within the SMART association though is could be extended to others.

http://nwnoticias.com/#!/noticias/suprema-corte-aprueba-uso-...

rts551 - 11-4-2015 at 04:21 PM

that is why the door is only open....no one else can go through it....yet.

monoloco - 11-4-2015 at 04:28 PM

It looks to me like it opened the door to 5 people to possess 5 grams each, but no legal way to procure it beyond growing 1) 5 gram plant.

bajabuddha - 11-4-2015 at 04:51 PM

It's a start. The vast majority of narco-trafficking is pot. Yes, I know the cartels will keep moving other drugs, but if pot is taken out of the equation there can be more resources directed at importation of pseudoephedrine, ether, and other chemicals used in the process of meth and cocaine. We learned nothing from Al Capone; the people are going to want it (people still want abstinence from alcohol too), and they're going to do it. Just a matter of time; the reasoning is there, the wheels move much too slowly.

BigBearRider - 11-4-2015 at 04:53 PM

I've realized that I am for legalization of pot, and for the prohibition of smoking it. The smoke sucks.

bajabuddha - 11-4-2015 at 05:54 PM

Your words speak true, Kemosabe (other than the prohibition-part). Am sipping my 5-o'clock martini, and thinking "this is an acquired taste". Have concocted many a froo-froo drink bartending for others. Ain't for everybody, but hey, to each his own. In The Olden Daze was a different story; now it just makes me stoopud(er). "No no no no, I don't smoke it no mo'.... I wind up ending up on de flo'".

However logic says it eventually must, and will be so. It ain't so bad, really; some still think "Reefer Madness" is an incredible documentary; I still have it on VCR (now transposed to a CD). There are still McCarthy-ists crying "COMMIES!", but eventually and hopefully common sense will prevail.

Or not. :coolup:

alacran - 11-4-2015 at 06:10 PM

In the "normal" world, grown ups are supposed to be allowed to make up their minds, what you do to yourself (without no hysteria ) should be your choice.
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rts551 - 11-5-2015 at 08:52 AM

Quote: Originally posted by soulpatch  
I was listening to the radio today on my way to Queretaro and a law enforcement officer was actually speaking about how pot was, in effect, legal in society and not the moral issue it is in the USA.
That efforts are wasted on even pursuing enforcing prohibition and that the trafficking of pot is pretty much endorsed by the government since, societally speaking, there is not a real stigma attached to pot's usage.
I found it interesting


Did he work for the Cartel?

motoged - 11-5-2015 at 12:42 PM

Quote: Originally posted by BigBearRider  
I've realized that I am for legalization of pot, and for the prohibition of smoking it. The smoke sucks.



Try a vapourizer :light: :cool: :saint:

rts551 - 11-5-2015 at 01:16 PM

Quote: Originally posted by soulpatch  
Quote: Originally posted by rts551  
Quote: Originally posted by soulpatch  
I was listening to the radio today on my way to Queretaro and a law enforcement officer was actually speaking about how pot was, in effect, legal in society and not the moral issue it is in the USA.
That efforts are wasted on even pursuing enforcing prohibition and that the trafficking of pot is pretty much endorsed by the government since, societally speaking, there is not a real stigma attached to pot's usage.
I found it interesting


Did he work for the Cartel?



I don't know, I did not call in and ask.

Look around your town and tell me what you think.


My little town, not hardly worth it. lighten up.

motoged - 11-5-2015 at 04:03 PM

Somebody once said:

"People who get drunk like to hear themselves talk....people who get high like to listen to others...."

DENNIS - 11-5-2015 at 04:53 PM


Show me a cop who knows the law, and I'll say he's a rare exception. They don't study law. They study momentary interpretation and extortion.

bajabuddha - 11-5-2015 at 05:26 PM

I don't think the cop on the radio was a cartel guy; just an intelligent man to me. It's the stigma; booze is ok, pot is not. Same with the old McCarthyism-type persecutions, just can't remember the guy in the 20's and early 30's that started the whole hub-bub. Herb is not ok, tobacco is one of the largest lobbies in our gov't. And, where John Daniels is made, is a dry County.

Go figger.

BTW, "either ender"..... that's a new one, love it ! :lol: :cool:



[Edited on 11-6-2015 by bajabuddha]

Ateo - 11-5-2015 at 06:13 PM

Legal weed is coming. The 100 year drug war is a failure. Personally, MJ makes me a little anxious and uncomfortable. But it helps others, and is WAY safer than alcohol. Legalize and tax it.


Can't sleep? Stop taking ambien and other sleep aids and eat an edible marijuana treat. Your azz will be asleep in 45 minutes.

We've been doing things backwards for too long. Once this gets legalized (as it has in other USA states) in California and the money starts flowing in, the dominoes will fall fast.

DENNIS - 11-5-2015 at 06:28 PM


When it gets here, we'll see the greatest display of capitalism offered in some time.......competition to drive prices to the lowest consumer level.
My money will be on the cartels to prevail. They won't be hindered by tax considerations.

rts551 - 11-5-2015 at 07:17 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Ateo  
Legal weed is coming. The 100 year drug war is a failure. Personally, MJ makes me a little anxious and uncomfortable. But it helps others, and is WAY safer than alcohol. Legalize and tax it.


Can't sleep? Stop taking ambien and other sleep aids and eat an edible marijuana treat. Your azz will be asleep in 45 minutes.

We've been doing things backwards for too long. Once this gets legalized (as it has in other USA states) in California and the money starts flowing in, the dominoes will fall fast.



people keep saying it is safer than alcohol. how so?

DENNIS - 11-5-2015 at 07:33 PM



Don't listen to that crap, Ralph. None of it is safe.

motoged - 11-5-2015 at 11:28 PM

Smoking pot is bad and harmful because it adds to global warming...

Mexitron - 11-6-2015 at 12:21 AM

Quote: Originally posted by soulpatch  
I was listening to the radio today on my way to Queretaro and a law enforcement officer was actually speaking about how pot was, in effect, legal in society and not the moral issue it is in the USA.
That efforts are wasted on even pursuing enforcing prohibition and that the trafficking of pot is pretty much endorsed by the government since, societally speaking, there is not a real stigma attached to pot's usage.
I found it interesting


That is unless you're a gringo smoking weed, then it suddenly becomes a VERY moral issue down there, heh.

bezzell - 11-6-2015 at 08:01 AM

Quote: Originally posted by rts551  
people keep saying it is safer than alcohol. how so?


holy crap, someone needs to get out more ! :o

elgatoloco - 11-6-2015 at 01:03 PM

http://themindunleashed.org/2015/03/study-shows-marijuana-11...

Wow. :o Who knew?
Quote: Originally posted by rts551  
Quote: Originally posted by Ateo  
Legal weed is coming. The 100 year drug war is a failure. Personally, MJ makes me a little anxious and uncomfortable. But it helps others, and is WAY safer than alcohol. Legalize and tax it.


Can't sleep? Stop taking ambien and other sleep aids and eat an edible marijuana treat. Your azz will be asleep in 45 minutes.

We've been doing things backwards for too long. Once this gets legalized (as it has in other USA states) in California and the money starts flowing in, the dominoes will fall fast.



people keep saying it is safer than alcohol. how so?

rts551 - 11-6-2015 at 03:01 PM

Ah this helps. from research on the authors "themindunleashed.org is a pseudoscientific, woo-peddling, clickbait website with a propensity to misrepresent data from studies and present it as scientific fact for their own gain. With just a soupçon of bigotry for flavor.

Neither the site itself nor the whois say anything about who owns and runs the place. "


and from the article itself.
"According to the team of international researchers behind the study, published in the journal ‘Scientific Reports,’ the findings suggest that marijuana risks — at least those related to mortality — are trumped when compared to substances like alcohol.

“The results confirm that the risk of cannabis may have been overestimated in the past,” the report reads. “At least for the endpoint of mortality, the [margin of exposure] for THC/cannabis in both individual and population-based assessments would be above safety thresholds (e.g. 100 for data based on animal experiments). In contrast, the risk of alcohol may have been commonly underestimated.”

Both alcohol and cannabis can be considered a narcotic or hallucinogen, that affects the central nervous system, causing changes in behavior and often addiction. But there are major differences in how each reacts with the human body."



And Bezzell. Like a lot of pot smokers you don't do your research. Look above...it is not harmless.

mtgoat666 - 11-6-2015 at 05:31 PM

You think legalization is good? Look at the demographics of pot purchasers in colorado. Seems to be high revenues, with a few getting rich, with predominant consumer the uneducated young male. Not sure the stoner generation is well served by enabling their legal use, eh?
https://www.colorado.gov/cdphe/marijuanause

bajabuddha - 11-7-2015 at 04:54 AM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
You think legalization is good? Look at the demographics of pot purchasers in colorado. Seems to be high revenues, with a few getting rich, with predominant consumer the uneducated young male. Not sure the stoner generation is well served by enabling their legal use, eh?
https://www.colorado.gov/cdphe/marijuanause

...... so you'd rather just keep enabling the cartels instead? You think the "uneducated young males" just started doing the doobie because of legalization? Come up with statistics on how much illegal pot is entering Colorado now as compared to a few years ago. I'm sure it's still there, like 'shine in West Virginia... just the hillbilly still-cookers don't have Estates in Florida or their own aircraft for escape.