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Photos of Semana Santa at Bahia Concepcion??

SFandH - 3-20-2016 at 12:17 PM

I've always enjoyed Pompano's photos of the Easter crowds at the beaches along Bahia Concepcion. Since he isn't posting much I'm hoping someone else can do a bit of photo journalism and post some pictures of the holiday madness.

The number of people is incredible. Pure chaos.

I stayed at Santispac one Easter week a few years ago. Never again. After the majority left the week after Easter Sunday I took my boat out to Coyote Island and brought back literally a boat load of plastic bottles and styrofoam plates/cups that people with boats or people on the rental pangas had just left all over the beach. What a mess.

JC43 - 3-20-2016 at 12:57 PM

Although I am a native Mexican, I am living American standards. According to that I have to agree by 100% to your post. The Mexicans are just not aware that this earth does not belong to those, who are currently living on it. Those who know about `Semana Santa´ in Baja and Mexico overall, stay away from any spot where more than 3 Mexicans come together > Three is a crowd! The word "Environmental protection' does not exist in Mexico. I am sorry to say that as a Mexican, really sorry.

villafontana - 3-20-2016 at 01:27 PM

Concuerdo contigo JC43. Soy Tijuanense, pero desgraciadamente tienes razon.

Gulliver - 3-20-2016 at 02:56 PM

People are pretty much the same everywhere. i can remember when throwing trash out of a car window was all too common in the states. My parents took a dim view of it but I saw a lot of it.

It takes time for attitudes to change. There was a time when you could tell when you were approaching Guerro Negro on the highway from the tattered white plastic bags on the vegetation. I think things are better now.

There has been a couple bagging up the roadside trash along the highway in the first mile or so South of Mulege this last week.

I followed a large group of local cowboys out to a birthday party at a rancho last week and teased them by saying that I tracked them by the beer cans. They laughed but listened.

It will happen but not overnight.

villafontana - 3-20-2016 at 03:03 PM

I concur with u also Gulliver!

People are not alike EVERYWHERE

durrelllrobert - 3-20-2016 at 03:07 PM

This is a photo of what a beach in China looks like every weekend in their summer and when they all leave they take EVERTHING (including dirty diapers) with them and leave it spotless. If they didn't do this the Communist bosses would close the beach so that they wouldn't get embrassed in the media.




Alm - 3-20-2016 at 08:13 PM

Quote: Originally posted by durrelllrobert  
This is a photo of what a beach in China looks like every weekend in their summer and when they all leave they take EVERTHING (including dirty diapers)

Because they can't afford leaving any of their possessions behind, recycling diapers into something usable :). It's hard for us to imagine what it feels like - living with no disposable income.

But, why traveling that far - here is a (normally) deserted beach in Bahia Kino:


Video

JC43 - 3-20-2016 at 08:59 PM

Quote: Originally posted by villafontana  
Concuerdo contigo JC43. Soy Tijuanense, pero desgraciadamente tienes razon.


Gracias Villafontana! Por desgracia, no todos los Mexicanos estan de acuerdo con nosotros.

alacran - 3-20-2016 at 09:46 PM

Estoy de acuerdo con ustedes, pero los que vienen a Bahia Concepcion, en Semana Santa generalmente son pochos. Que se creen mejor que los que vivimos aqui.
Soy Americano.

micah202 - 3-20-2016 at 11:17 PM

Quote: Originally posted by durrelllrobert  
This is a photo of what a beach in China looks like every weekend in their summer and when they all leave they take EVERTHING (including dirty diapers) with them and leave it spotless. If they didn't do this the Communist bosses would close the beach so that they wouldn't get embrassed in the media.





...it's really too bad they don't take such care in vancouver,
I'm generalizing, but it's often the case that asians simply walk away from their picnic trash :wow:


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Gulliver - 3-21-2016 at 06:44 AM

What I have done in the past (and it's not easy for me) is to politely confront individuals over this.

I was traveling by sailboat in Baja in the early nineties and stopped in La Paz regularly. I would very often see mothers along the malecon change a diaper, fold the dirty one and drop it right at her own feet. I would regularly walk over, pick up the diaper, shake my head at her and drop the diaper in the trash can a few feet away.

I got some frowns and some smiles. I hate confrontations and drawing attention to myself but it is really the only way to change attitudes and perceptions. I could not calculate any statistics but I do believe that things on that beach got better.

It's called community. If you don't have it, life is a mess as it is all too often in cities where no one knows anyone.

There is an intermittent problem in here in Mulege of loose dogs getting into garbage and pooping everywhere and killing chickens and whatever. The gringo community is very supportive of a spay and neuter program but there is somewhat less awareness among the Mexican people. Recently there was a rash of poisonings. Not a good solution, cruel and so indicative of a lack of community. But the number of loose dogs dropped dramatically.

It's hard to bring myself to approach strangers over unacceptable behavior. I want them to change but am unwilling to engage them. But if I don't, then where is community?

There is a reason that I Winter in Mulege and Summer in the San Juan islands. These places are small enough that can have some hope of knowing my neighbors. Now if I can just persuade Carlinga to deal with his dogs barking all night!!!

SFandH - 3-21-2016 at 07:36 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Gulliver  
What I have done in the past (and it's not easy for me) is to politely confront individuals over this.

I was traveling by sailboat in Baja in the early nineties and stopped in La Paz regularly. I would very often see mothers along the malecon change a diaper, fold the dirty one and drop it right at her own feet. I would regularly walk over, pick up the diaper, shake my head at her and drop the diaper in the trash can a few feet away.

I got some frowns and some smiles. I hate confrontations and drawing attention to myself but it is really the only way to change attitudes and perceptions. I could not calculate any statistics but I do believe that things on that beach got better.

It's called community. If you don't have it, life is a mess as it is all too often in cities where no one knows anyone.



I agree and do the same myself. When I brought back the boatload of garbage from the small Coyote Island beach a few days after Easter Sunday, I let my all too few Mexican friends in Mulege know what I did and then described the large volume of trash I dealt with. It may have been considered presumptuous of me by some and I wondered if making an issue of it was inappropriate.

Mexico can be a challenging place for those who are even in a very basic way aesthetically minded. Sure, we all appreciate the natural beauty of Baja, but the areas thick with people can be very hard on the eyes.

[Edited on 3-21-2016 by SFandH]

bezzell - 3-21-2016 at 07:45 AM

modern day homo sapiens: a cancerous virus on the planet.

stay tuned

Alm - 3-21-2016 at 11:36 AM

Quote: Originally posted by micah202  

...it's really too bad they don't take such care in vancouver,
I'm generalizing, but it's often the case that asians simply walk away from their picnic trash :wow:

Yep. 1st generation Asian immigrants usually do. Durellrobert is making wrong conclusions from right observations. Living in this city where majority of population is what's called "visual minorities" - mostly Chinese - I think I know them a little. You can't "embarrass" them with anything, dignity and self-respect have no value in their eyes. This is the very foundation of their culture - you are a grain of sand, a tiny link of the machine, you have no value as an individual. Chinese govt doesn't care much about their "image" before the rest of the world either.

But I agree - about that photo - that living garbage behind would result in serious consequences, like heavy fines and possibly labor camp. Govt is watching.

vandenberg - 3-21-2016 at 01:11 PM

Beach in my home town The Hague, Holland

SCHEVENINGEN.jpg - 46kB

motoged - 3-21-2016 at 01:29 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Alm  
....
Yep. 1st generation Asian immigrants ....- mostly Chinese - I think I know them a little. You can't "embarrass" them with anything, dignity and self-respect have no value in their eyes. This is the very foundation of their culture - you are a grain of sand, a tiny link of the machine, you have no value as an individual. ....


Alm,
Your comments represent how "little you know them".....Chinese culture has centuries behind it and you might want to read a bit more about it than than what you hear at a Kerrisdale Starbucks.

Your comments represent your lack of dignity and self-respect....:rolleyes:

[Edited on 3-21-2016 by motoged]

[Edited on 3-21-2016 by motoged]

Hook - 3-21-2016 at 01:45 PM

In viewing the two photos from The Hague and China, look how Western Europeans respect personal space, compared to the Eastern way of co-habitating. Of course, there are many more people in land area in the Chinese photo, so that accounts for some of it.

You can also see the effects of private ownership vs. communal ownership in the placing of the beachside loungers from the businesses along the sand in The Hague.

The world is an interesting place.

JC43 - 3-22-2016 at 08:25 AM

Well...... it is not the space itself which keeps me from visiting crowded beaches at times like `Semana Santa´. I was watching people "taking a bath" on many beaches. In Mexico. in the States. In Europe. This is what I realized. Many folks go for a swim and than out of a sudden they stay completely motionless! Guess what???? O.K., thinking about having a drink on the beach. The drink pressures you at some times. So, can you pie when swimming?

SFandH - 3-22-2016 at 04:15 PM

Come on, somebody reading this must be at Santispac/Burro/Coyote now. Snap some photos of the mayhem. :)

bajabuddha - 3-22-2016 at 04:21 PM

I have a half-dozen or so from just a few years' back, will post later and soon. Was just thinking, a full page and not one OP's request. Gotta do the 'photobucket-gig'........ pictures forthcoming.

Principle of the whole thing is, IT'S STILL BAJA SUR, MEXICO. IT'S THEIR (not my) COUNTRY. They can do whatever they want, when they want, as they want. As to the trash, they don't have landfills and collection services as we in El Norte consider appropriate. If you don't like it, or are offended, please..... stay the hell home.

Hook - 3-22-2016 at 06:59 PM

Quote: Originally posted by bajabuddha  
I have a half-dozen or so from just a few years' back, will post later and soon. Was just thinking, a full page and not one OP's request. Gotta do the 'photobucket-gig'........ pictures forthcoming.

Principle of the whole thing is, IT'S STILL BAJA SUR, MEXICO. IT'S THEIR (not my) COUNTRY. They can do whatever they want, when they want, as they want. As to the trash, they don't have landfills and collection services as we in El Norte consider appropriate. If you don't like it, or are offended, please..... stay the hell home.


You think the majority of Mexicans like the way their country is? I don't.

They are mostly resigned to it. They'd love to change it, if they could.

Why do you think so many have risked life and limb in an illegal crossing into the US?

Because they DON'T want to "stay the hell home". :rolleyes:

BTW, we have collection services and landfills in Sonora. What's up with BCS?

Gulliver - 3-22-2016 at 07:22 PM

There are trash cans at the playas on Conception and the holiday people mostly use them. I have seen less of a problem down there the last few years.

It just such a contrast with the usual scene. The beach population jumps so much. I have more of a problem with noise. If I could bring down a curse on boom boxes and car audio I would. I think they have perfected noise.

I was hanging around in town today and the tourists from Ensenada and parts North are looking more and more like gringo tourists. Same cars and clothes and haircuts. The stores are doing great volume. When this all folds and the flood starts North next weekend, then is good time to not be on the road. Tired, sunburned, running late and the kids and wife bugging you about when it will all be over. No different than stateside but with a relatively small road.

The Red Cross people were out with their donation cans today and I cleaned out my pocket change. They might be busy soon.

bajabuddha - 3-23-2016 at 04:33 AM

As requested by OP to begin with from 2011:

Santispac






Coyote


Requeson

trash

amigobaja - 3-23-2016 at 09:04 AM

Sometime it takes small steps to make changes. Yesterday I was kayaking at the mouth of the river. I went close to the southside beach and there was our locale Pangaro guide Alex and his small son cleaning the garbage off the beach. I was so impressed I thanked Alex for not just the clean up but setting a life time example for his son.
I have only fished with Alex once about ten years ago but I do recommend him and others to people looking to go fishing. After yesterday I will start only recommending Alex so in a small way he gets rewarded for his efforts. If you have someone looking to fish Mulege waters please consider Alex first.

Genecag - 3-23-2016 at 09:51 AM

Generalizations typically start with some true observations but also portrays a myth longer than it should.....

I agree that some 1st generation immigrants from less economically developed countries have less priority in environmental concerns to start but with steps of good example and rising economics We learn for the better. We all start with food, water, shelter and then develop altruistic endeavors.....

As a 1st generation immigrant myself, I am guilty. Now, as I have learned and seen good example, I have worked to make up for my past mistakes.

We Boy Scouts have a good motto: leave it better than you found it.

Bless all the Americas!

SFandH - 3-23-2016 at 09:54 AM

buddha, thanks for the photos, wish I was there........next week.

JC43 - 3-23-2016 at 02:32 PM

Quote: Originally posted by bajabuddha  
I have a half-dozen or so from just a few years' back, will post later and soon. Was just thinking, a full page and not one OP's request. Gotta do the 'photobucket-gig'........ pictures forthcoming.

Principle of the whole thing is, IT'S STILL BAJA SUR, MEXICO. IT'S THEIR (not my) COUNTRY. They can do whatever they want, when they want, as they want. As to the trash, they don't have landfills and collection services as we in El Norte consider appropriate. If you don't like it, or are offended, please..... stay the hell home.


Never heard such BS before! The Mexicans CAN NOT do w/ their country whatever they want. And many Mexicans care about their country. Just reading this thread, shows it clearly. Not all Mexicans are low class!!! > Every flock has a black sheep, do you know that Buddha?
1. There are landfills in existence and trash cans on most beaches. Matter of education to use ´em.
2. I do not need anybody in this board to tell me not to criticize malpractice (littering) or leaving trash behind.
3. Staying away and closing the eyes is not the right suggestion at all.
4. One can love Mexico, see the disadvantages, still coming back again but still criticizing those things which are in need of criticism.
5. Sticking the head into the dust, pretending not to care about malpractice is just not the way the world it ticking these days.

Example: If you don`t like Donald Trump, don`t come back into the U.S. after spending Semana Santa in Baja????????
(Don`t shoot at me > I know it`s BS, like the comment quoted)

durrelllrobert - 3-23-2016 at 03:26 PM

Quote: Originally posted by SFandH  
buddha, thanks for the photos, wish I was there........next week.
I assume you meant that you wish you were there back in 2011 and NOT next week?

bajabuddha - 3-23-2016 at 03:36 PM

JC, the biggest source of stinky garbage in Baja is you.

My point of no landfills is that in the Concepcion Beach area the 'landfills' are all just a half-mile from the beaches up a side canyon and the trash is just re-dumped to blow wherever the winds take it. It takes fuel to transport it, and the beach cleaners don't have very much of that. I've beach-camped my whole tenure in Baja for 20 years, so don't 'lecture' me on BS with your BS. I recycled as much of my trash as I could to help out my Señora beach tender. Head in the sand? Hardly; but i'm not going to spend all my time cleaning up an un-fixable problem. I have noticed over the last 10 years the populace has done more to police their own areas, and it's a heckuva lot cleaner than it used to be in some areas, so why don't you rail and rant about North Loreto instead of fuming about Mulegé every chance you get? Complain all you want to about it: but how about YOU picking up a big black bag and start DOING instead of biatching (what you're best at). :P

JC43 - 3-23-2016 at 06:58 PM

Quote: Originally posted by bajabuddha  
JC, the biggest source of stinky garbage in Baja is you.

My point of no landfills is that in the Concepcion Beach area the 'landfills' are all just a half-mile from the beaches up a side canyon and the trash is just re-dumped to blow wherever the winds take it. It takes fuel to transport it, and the beach cleaners don't have very much of that. I've beach-camped my whole tenure in Baja for 20 years, so don't 'lecture' me on BS with your BS. I recycled as much of my trash as I could to help out my Señora beach tender. Head in the sand? Hardly; but i'm not going to spend all my time cleaning up an un-fixable problem. I have noticed over the last 10 years the populace has done more to police their own areas, and it's a heckuva lot cleaner than it used to be in some areas, so why don't you rail and rant about North Loreto instead of fuming about Mulegé every chance you get? Complain all you want to about it: but how about YOU picking up a big black bag and start DOING instead of biatching (what you're best at). :P


First and foremost: Thanks for the personal attack.
That is your spirit but not the spirit of BajaNomad!

Secondly, read the whole thread again.... slowly... maybe you might catch the point :light:: This thread is NOT about Mulege, but about beaches along the Bay of Constitucion in the first place. Then beaches around the world. And: I am not `fuming´about Mulege but posting facts about beaches in general > like other Nomads did without personal attacks on each other. I.E. China or the Netherlands.
BTW, I am not fuming about Mulege - I love Mulege as I lived there for many years - but criticizing dishonest people trying to pull others over the table. A practice which you are supporting.

In general Buddy, there are educated people, highly educated ones. Those people are moving things. (Like teaching others not to litter) They are ruling the world btw. Then there are people less educated or non educated.
Those do not even understand what`s written in a forum.
?? Do You Know What I Mean??

I for my part just need to read your mood::: Always cranky unless medicated. Did you miss your medicine:fire::fire::fire: today

[Edited on 3-24-2016 by JC43]

bajabuddha - 3-23-2016 at 07:23 PM

Wow..... with those flames, who needs the meds more?

??? Do You Know What I Mean??? (The caps were very impressive btw) :smug:

JC43 - 3-23-2016 at 10:39 PM

Quote: Originally posted by bajabuddha  
Wow..... with those flames, who needs the meds more?

??? Do You Know What I Mean??? (The caps were very impressive btw) :smug:


As you outed yourself again w/ a personal attack>>> no further comment from my side.
Back to the threat: Semana Santa is in full swing. I heard that all beaches South of Mulege are already crowded. Mostly with folks from Baja Norte. Oh! Why that? In Baja Norte they have trash cans on the beaches, as we heard. Not so in Baja Sur??? What a crap! Of course we have trash cans. And most visitors are using them. Just some folks who maybe never stood in Baja Sur don`t know that. Down here in Los Cabos on the beaches in town officially it is not allowed to camp. (But it is tolerated mostly) Only on beaches way out of town there are a lot of campers and visitors during Semana Santa. But the beaches are mostly left -more or less- clean after Semana Santa.
Baja Sur is by far not what a certain guy is trying to make of it.
Well,,,,,,,, the medication........

bajabuddha - 3-23-2016 at 10:55 PM

Quote: Originally posted by JC43  
Quote: Originally posted by bajabuddha  
Wow..... with those flames, who needs the meds more?

??? Do You Know What I Mean??? (The caps were very impressive btw) :smug:


As you outed yourself again w/ a personal attack>>> no further comment from my side.
Back to the threat: Semana Santa is in full swing. I heard that all beaches South of Mulege are already crowded. Mostly with folks from Baja Norte. Oh! Why that? In Baja Norte they have trash cans on the beaches, as we heard. Not so in Baja Sur??? What a crap! Of course we have trash cans. And most visitors are using them. Just some folks who maybe never stood in Baja Sur don`t know that. Down here in Los Cabos on the beaches in town officially it is not allowed to camp. (But it is tolerated mostly) Only on beaches way out of town there are a lot of campers and visitors during Semana Santa. But the beaches are mostly left -more or less- clean after Semana Santa.
Baja Sur is by far not what a certain guy is trying to make of it.
Well,,,,,,,, the medication........


As usual, more full of stuffing than a Xmas turkey (or just a turkey in general, no personal attacks intended on Santa Claus). My first Semana Santa 1996 was sharing my camp, my camping gear, my toys, my food with an extended family who camped with us from Bahia Tortuga, which by the way is in BAJA SUR, and came over to Concepcion for their one and only vacation. All cooperativo langosta divers. I spoke bastante Español so was the defacto interprador for la playa, and had a ball with todos personas. I still have a wind breaker given to me from the Dueño of the familia with his embroidered name on the front; it was their Año 25 aniverisdad of their cooperativo an honor to receive as a gift for amistad. It was my first and last camping on the beach during Semana Santa, mainly for the total disregard for any and everyone else but ME from the campers... from boom boxes to garbage to ATV's racing through at high speeds with little children in the middle of the dirt roads... been there, done that. My last move in '11 to a new locale was because of Semana Santa.

I'm not an arm-chair commando, nor am trying to make a buck off people in Baja, like some on here (hint) with a grudge (hint) on those who do (hint).

As I said before, I exclusively LIVED on the beach for almost 20 winters. Stay in South Cape in your condo, JC. Cada loco con su tema.

Bob and Susan - 3-24-2016 at 01:49 PM

today is thurs...the biggest day on the beach...here is santispac

really not too many people

the hotels in town are full
the eating places busy
the stores busy

travel trailers and camping isn't as fun as it sounds
no hot showers
no internet

the world is changing



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chuckie - 3-24-2016 at 03:09 PM

That does appear to be a smaller crowd than I remember from the past few years....Economy?

Hook - 3-24-2016 at 03:50 PM

It's only Thursday. TONS of people will arrive this afternoon/ evening if it goes like our town. Many people still have to work on Thursday, but not Good Friday.

And people will still come Friday AM for two nights. It wouldnt surprise me to see that photo with three times that many people by Sunday AM.

Our town appears to be experiencing the biggest influx since the high-water mark of 2011.

[Edited on 3-24-2016 by Hook]

cocomo - 3-24-2016 at 04:18 PM

Hey Alm,
I take offense to your hasty generalization about Asians. I am Asian and I'm first generation. I was raised with a lot of pride and respect. There's a lot of duty, work ethic and responsibility in my culture.Just remember, there are buttcracks in every culture. Just as there are ignorant F*cks in every culture. Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt.

Pescador - 3-25-2016 at 08:46 AM

Things are hopping in Mulege, almost every hotel and motel is full, along with a couple of tour busses. We play at Serenidad Saturday night at the hotel and then Sunday at Santispac Beach at Armando's Restaurant. We are expecting full crowds both nights and a big turnout. Should be a lot of fun and we are going to drive home very slowly both nights.

BAJACAT - 3-25-2016 at 11:27 PM

Quote: Originally posted by JC43  
Quote: Originally posted by bajabuddha  
JC, the biggest source of stinky garbage in Baja is you.

My point of no landfills is that in the Concepcion Beach area the 'landfills' are all just a half-mile from the beaches up a side canyon and the trash is just re-dumped to blow wherever the winds take it. It takes fuel to transport it, and the beach cleaners don't have very much of that. I've beach-camped my whole tenure in Baja for 20 years, so don't 'lecture' me on BS with your BS. I recycled as much of my trash as I could to help out my Señora beach tender. Head in the sand? Hardly; but i'm not going to spend all my time cleaning up an un-fixable problem. I have noticed over the last 10 years the populace has done more to police their own areas, and it's a heckuva lot cleaner than it used to be in some areas, so why don't you rail and rant about North Loreto instead of fuming about Mulegé every chance you get? Complain all you want to about it: but how about YOU picking up a big black bag and start DOING instead of biatching (what you're best at). :P


First and foremost: Thanks for the personal attack.
That is your spirit but not the spirit of BajaNomad!

Secondly, read the whole thread again.... slowly... maybe you might catch the point :light:: This thread is NOT about Mulege, but about beaches along the Bay of Constitucion in the first place. Then beaches around the world. And: I am not `fuming´about Mulege but posting facts about beaches in general > like other Nomads did without personal attacks on each other. I.E. China or the Netherlands.
BTW, I am not fuming about Mulege - I love Mulege as I lived there for many years - but criticizing dishonest people trying to pull others over the table. A practice which you are supporting.

In general Buddy, there are educated people, highly educated ones. Those people are moving things. (Like teaching others not to litter) They are ruling the world btw. Then there are people less educated or non educated.
Those do not even understand what`s written in a forum.
?? Do You Know What I Mean??

I for my part just need to read your mood::: Always cranky unless medicated. Did you miss your medicine:fire::fire::fire: today

[Edited on 3-24-2016 by JC43]

BAJACAT - 3-25-2016 at 11:32 PM

omg I forgot how to use this site
they are not expecting large crowds for this Semana Santa
Alot of the folks are staying North and maybe traveling as far as
San Felipe..

Bob and Susan - 3-26-2016 at 06:28 AM

Quote: Originally posted by BAJACAT  
omg I forgot how to use this site
they are not expecting large crowds for this Semana Santa
Alot of the folks are staying North and maybe traveling as far as
San Felipe..


well bajacat..."they" are wrong

it's just a "different" crowd

tech has changed the world

the town is packed...
people are "spending" money not bringing everything they bought at Costco with them

the economy is good...at least here

mtgoat666 - 3-26-2016 at 07:20 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Bob and Susan  
today is thurs...the biggest day on the beach...here is santispac

really not too many people

the hotels in town are full
the eating places busy
the stores busy

travel trailers and camping isn't as fun as it sounds
no hot showers
no internet

the world is changing



Where are all those campers pooping? :lol::lol:

JC43 - 3-26-2016 at 07:57 AM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Quote: Originally posted by Bob and Susan  
today is thurs...the biggest day on the beach...here is santispac

really not too many people

the hotels in town are full
the eating places busy
the stores busy

travel trailers and camping isn't as fun as it sounds
no hot showers
no internet

the world is changing



Where are all those campers pooping? :lol::lol:


I answered that question already in this thread!
at least for the "small" part of said business.
The "big" part of said business is solved normally this way: On a bucket. Dig a hole next to your neighbors. Empty the bucket. Close the hole. (On beaches with no bushes)
On beaches with bushes: Watch your step. Somebody was faster than you!:bounce:

[Edited on 3-26-2016 by JC43]

Speaking of Baja trash

durrelllrobert - 3-26-2016 at 11:21 AM

Quote: Originally posted by bajabuddha  
JC, the biggest source of stinky garbage in Baja is you.

My point of no landfills is that in the Concepcion Beach area the 'landfills' are all just a half-mile from the beaches up a side canyon and the trash is just re-dumped to blow wherever the winds take it. It takes fuel to transport it, and the beach cleaners don't have very much of that. I've beach-camped my whole tenure in Baja for 20 years, so don't 'lecture' me on BS with your BS. I recycled as much of my trash as I could to help out my Señora beach tender. Head in the sand? Hardly; but i'm not going to spend all my time cleaning up an un-fixable problem. I have noticed over the last 10 years the populace has done more to police their own areas, and it's a heckuva lot cleaner than it used to be in some areas, so why don't you rail and rant about North Loreto instead of fuming about Mulegé every chance you get? Complain all you want to about it: but how about YOU picking up a big black bag and start DOING instead of biatching (what you're best at). :P
I notice that all those new, large and low cost housing developments on both sides of Boulevard 2000 (heading to Otay) apparently have no trash pick-up yet and residents are just dumping their black bags along the highway. :fire:

villafontana - 3-27-2016 at 09:00 PM

Quote: Originally posted by BAJACAT  
omg I forgot how to use this site
they are not expecting large crowds for this Semana Santa
Alot of the folks are staying North and maybe traveling as far as
San Felipe..


Darn right Baja Cat, i got to SF on friday and it seemed that all of So Cal and all of B.C went there. U couldnt walk in the Malecon Area. I didnt thought it would get so crowded! Bajacalifornians say that our economy is hurting with the exchange rate so high for a dollar, but it didnt seem like in SF. And there were a lot of mexican plated cars!