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SCT says Mex 5 will be completed in 2016

rts551 - 3-30-2016 at 08:35 AM

Road deniers hang your head.

http://californiahoy.net/2016/03/30/se-ahorraran-4-horas-de-...

BigBearRider - 3-30-2016 at 08:50 AM

Great news. The statement about saving four hours must be on the referenced Mexicali to Laguna Chapala route.

Bajaboy - 3-30-2016 at 08:56 AM

With all the manpower we saw last week, I believe the time line.

rts551 - 3-30-2016 at 09:10 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Bajaboy  
With all the manpower we saw last week, I believe the time line.


And they are moving right along. Travel the road 4-6 times a year, and it is noticeable.

Sweetwater - 3-30-2016 at 09:18 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Bajaboy  
With all the manpower we saw last week, I believe the time line.


Also agree, the real work is the road bed, the pavement is like painting the house that was built. I look forward to reading about the folks who leave San Felipe but never make it to the "new" pavement thinking they can turn it up on a fully paved road.....;D

Udo - 3-30-2016 at 09:42 AM

It may be worth the drive from Ensenada to San Felipe just to take Mex 5 to Baja Sur.
Mex 1 is OK, but the topes, municipality driving, and two mountain ranges slow the pace quite a bit.

rts551 - 3-30-2016 at 09:46 AM

The real work in this case is the bridges and culverts as they take a direct route through the hills.

Hook - 3-30-2016 at 09:46 AM

In other news, the Mexican government announced Pemex will be converting to ULSD by 2010. :biggrin:

I have no opinion on the road, just pronouncements by the Mexican government, at times.

DianaT - 3-30-2016 at 09:52 AM

Quote: Originally posted by rts551  
Road deniers hang your head.

http://californiahoy.net/2016/03/30/se-ahorraran-4-horas-de-...


I still have a vivid memory from a few years back when they started the paving, Two ladies in Gonzaga, who had their places on one year leases, leaned toward us and firmly stated that the paved road would NEVER happen or at least not in their lifetimes. I wonder if they are still topside.

woody with a view - 3-30-2016 at 10:13 AM

:lol::lol::lol:

rts551 - 3-30-2016 at 10:21 AM

Quote: Originally posted by DianaT  
Quote: Originally posted by rts551  
Road deniers hang your head.

http://californiahoy.net/2016/03/30/se-ahorraran-4-horas-de-...


I still have a vivid memory from a few years back when they started the paving, Two ladies in Gonzaga, who had their places on one year leases, leaned toward us and firmly stated that the paved road would NEVER happen or at least not in their lifetimes. I wonder if they are still topside.


:lol::lol::lol:

willardguy - 3-30-2016 at 10:29 AM

bring it on! :D this is really going to open up the option for getting out for a day's adventure with out having to deal with that road that I've always seen as just a nuisance

Hook - 3-30-2016 at 12:12 PM

I cant wait for it to be complete. I have been to Baja once since I moved to Sonora and that was on the expensive ferry for a trip out to Bahia Asuncion.

Once it's complete, I hope to be able to start spending some time along the Pacific in late October/early November.

PaulW - 3-30-2016 at 12:27 PM

Google translation and original article:

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=es&tl=en&j...


En 2016 Mexicali conectará directamente con Transpeninsular | Periodismo Negro

Ateo - 3-30-2016 at 12:39 PM

Great news and I just about believe it given the work crews they have in that area. No more slow go thru Ensenada, San Q, and x Ray machine in TJ for me.

Bajaboy - 3-30-2016 at 01:23 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Ateo  
Great news and I just about believe it given the work crews they have in that area. No more slow go thru Ensenada, San Q, and x Ray machine in TJ for me.


X-ray machines at all crossings except Tecate. We got examined at Mexicali East last week. It's the new normal I suppose.

Udo - 3-30-2016 at 01:24 PM

They are still building the x-ray machine in Otay Mesa.

PaulW - 3-30-2016 at 01:48 PM

Mexicali east:
Northbound has a facility XRay. Been there since last year. Any rig with a truck on a trailer or a box trailer goes thru the X Ray and suffers the delay in secondary. The lanes on the Mexican side are very narrow and squeeze with other vehicles is tight. Doable but great care is required.

Southbound - sure enough the Mexicans have a new XRay. Based on my observations it is only used for cargo driven thru by way of customs. (Not the commercial entrance). I see smaller box trailers and pickups with stuff and small motor homes going thru that XRay. All these rigs using the XRay were in the customs area because they were importing stuff. Still more similar rigs not entering the customs area were passing thru like the passenger cars.

No XRay in Algodones. Probably because nobody tries to go that way with a trailer or big rig. - Ha

Correct no XRay in Tecate same deal as Algodones. - A very tight fit I got thru once with a flatbed with a car on it and I took up two slots and the Border guy said I was lucky to get thru. I wont do that again.

mtgoat666 - 3-30-2016 at 01:52 PM

I like the drive from ensenada to san q. I hope this new 5 rd will keep all you RVers, whiners and gripers over on the east side!

StuckSucks - 3-30-2016 at 03:21 PM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
I like the drive from ensenada to san q. I hope this new 5 rd will keep all you RVers, whiners and gripers over on the east side!


That's what we say about friends who are afraid to go to Mexico - it's "self-selecting": they're happy they stay in the US, and we're happy they stay in the US.

We're in total agreement here: I'm happy that you will be on Highway 1, and you're happy you'll be on Highway 1.

rts551 - 3-30-2016 at 03:27 PM

Stay on the west side with hwy 1.
There are more gringo travelers over there to keep you company. No Xray at Tecate.
and remember lots of lonely stretches on this new road.

willardguy - 3-30-2016 at 03:33 PM

on the downside, there will be a ton of truck traffic rumbling up and down the road, yup jake brakes all night long. the price of progress I suppose :rolleyes:

Ateo - 3-30-2016 at 03:38 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Bajaboy  
Quote: Originally posted by Ateo  
Great news and I just about believe it given the work crews they have in that area. No more slow go thru Ensenada, San Q, and x Ray machine in TJ for me.


X-ray machines at all crossings except Tecate. We got examined at Mexicali East last week. It's the new normal I suppose.


I didn't see an X-ray at southbound Mexicali west but maybe I missed it.

bajabuddha - 3-30-2016 at 04:06 PM

Anyone notice the elephant in the room is hiding? :biggrin:

Pescador - 3-30-2016 at 04:24 PM

Quote: Originally posted by bajabuddha  
Anyone notice the elephant in the room is hiding? :biggrin:


NO, I see your trunk.:no:

bajabuddha - 3-30-2016 at 04:50 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Pescador  
Quote: Originally posted by bajabuddha  
Anyone notice the elephant in the room is hiding? :biggrin:


NO, I see your trunk.:no:

........and I thought it was the red toenail polish, looks just like strawberries......

Point bein', SOMEBODY has been vehemently denying the road won't be done for at least a couple of years.

I'll also point out the other elephant; Mexicano road engineering. Another 5 years, rockslides, storms, potholes, poor asphalt quality; but truly that's why I love it all so. That's what makes Baja, BAJA. For us non-SoCal's from the east, this makes Baja a day shorter drive. Time will tell on use/abuse/more traffic that will inexorably take its' toll on the Peninsula.

Recently on another thread someone mentioned in an aside that the days of us 'trailer-trash' Baja campers are fading; now it's www., cellphones, satellite TV, so us Baja Snowbirds who used to haul water and stand in line for the phone booth are now dinosaurs. Ouch. Wish I could afford a B & B and do the capitalist gig instead of just commune and catch my dinner.

chuckie - 3-30-2016 at 06:30 PM

Don't sit under the apple tree!

Pacifico - 3-30-2016 at 06:36 PM

There will still be plenty that travel the west side down 1, and people that travel down the new road; depends where you are coming from. I will miss some of the great restaurants and hotels on the Pacific side...It will be interesting to see the progress!

[Edited on 3-31-2016 by Pacifico]

bajabuddha - 3-30-2016 at 07:47 PM

Pacifico, I agree half-heartedly on your post. I will not miss the Santo Tomas hill...... won't miss the San Quintin bus crunch (any time of day)... won't even miss the hog-backs south of El Rosario. Will miss Cataviña bigtime, but a minor detour north for a half-day fix. WILL look forward to maybe a night in the greatest forest of them all, the Bahia LA turn-off area..... much area to find boondock camps, wonderful minor biosphere! Won't miss the Ensenada Ka-Thump.. Ka-Thump.. Ka-Thump..... 90 minutes to go 20 miles through knuckle-biting traffic and a sore neck at the end.

It will be interesting to see ''the progress''. Many years of watching 'progress' is not always heartening. However, progress will bring new restaurants and growth down the new corridor. Question is, where it will 'progress' to. Ain't it a biatch life goes on (as George Harrison said) "... Within You and Without You..... "

I for one am ecstatic that the new road will be done THIS YEAR. Just wish it was 5 years ago; would've saved me a weld-job.....

Phil S - 3-31-2016 at 09:27 AM

Having been driving down & back Mex 1 for over 25 years, I've seen the traffic count continuously increasing over the years from when I began. I remember the delays in construction. I remember the times we've stopped and waited for the vado's to clear of running 'rivers', before we could proceed. I remember the one time stupidity was driving rather than good sense. A 3/4 ton 4X4 gmc pickup loaded with plywood & 2X4's,waiting with many "locals" and tourists for the water to lower. Ahuge tall tired farm tractor pulling cars and pickups through that 'couldn't wait'. Then a freight truck came up going south. Proceeding slowly through and water was maybe 16" high. Brainless here,says 'he made it o.k. let's do it". So off we crawled. Inches at a time as it kept getting deeper and deeper. Then I noticed the water boiling over the running board and climbing the door. Committed, and of way too much good faith, we made it through to the other side. People looked at us in amazement. Not once was there any feeling of sliding sideways. But it was the combination of loaded to the 'hilt' with plywood & 2X4's and of course, the 'higher power' that watches us all in our 'stupid' times. I imagine the difference between the two routes will move a ton of traffic over to 5. I could be wrong. I sure as heck would hate to see all the freight trucks take over 5. Oh well. As almost everyone says, being in Baja is an adventure. Life continues regardless of which path you choose. Viva La Baja!!!!!!!!!!!!

rts551 - 3-31-2016 at 09:44 AM

Wiilardguy has it right. One reason the road is being built is to bring truck traffic up 5 instead of 1. Today traffic is light...next year?

Hook - 3-31-2016 at 02:22 PM

My recollection of the "elephant's" posts were simply that he was pointing out the pace of progress in the past. His extrapolations were based on that. Now comes this rather recent influx of workers and machinery.

And, besides, he isn't "wrong", nor the OP "right" until it is complete and we look at the calendar.

In the meantime, there is the cusp of an El Nino monsoon season in between now and Dec 31, 2016. A lot can still happen that man nor machine can control.

Udo - 3-31-2016 at 02:27 PM

:bounce:

rts551 - 3-31-2016 at 03:32 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Hook  
My recollection of the "elephant's" posts were simply that he was pointing out the pace of progress in the past. His extrapolations were based on that. Now comes this rather recent influx of workers and machinery.

And, besides, he isn't "wrong", nor the OP "right" until it is complete and we look at the calendar.

In the meantime, there is the cusp of an El Nino monsoon season in between now and Dec 31, 2016. A lot can still happen that man nor machine can control.


How true, but sometimes the elephant is very insistent he is correct even when it is based on 10 year old observations. I posted what the head of the project is saying, and I agree with you, a number of things could delay it..budget, weather etc. Enough weather and our elephant would have had a memory like a...a well "elephant".

dtbushpilot - 3-31-2016 at 04:35 PM

The trolls are out in force I see. David is at work, he can't come out and play now. Why don't you guys get off the couch and get some fresh air?

rts551 - 3-31-2016 at 07:29 PM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
? What is the hub-bub Ralph is alluding to?

I reported the HISTORY of this highway... and the HISTORY is 6-7 miles per year AVERAGE since this project began at Puertecitos in 2007.

I also said UNLESS the rate of progress changes, it will be done in about 3 years (I said that a year ago).

Nothing I said is incorrect or needs to be altered. The rate of construction has seemed to step up... but will it be done in 9 months or 1 year and 9 months...? That would be a PREDICTION, much like the climate and sea level alarmists like to use! So far their predictions are WRONG. How the highway advances is yet to be seen.

There are still 50 miles of unstarted new highway to build between San Felipe and Puertecitos for the project to be completed. The current roadbed north of Puertecitos was built in 1982 and paved the first time about 10 yeas after... so thin it was mostly gone by 1999. Repaved in the mid 2000s... but still not a high speed road like the rest of Mexico 5.


David, You did not have to bring in the sea level as a distracter did you? and then if that is not enough , you now are saying it has to include the new road between San Felipe and Puertecitos. Another herring. I think everyone knows what we have been talking about.

You see Hook, Never wrong. no hub bub.

Why couldn't David just say...Wow, I was wrong. Glad they threw the resources at it.


[Edited on 4-1-2016 by rts551]

rts551 - 3-31-2016 at 08:19 PM

:?:

DianaT - 3-31-2016 at 08:34 PM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Wrong about what Ralph?
What I actually posted here or how you spin it to attempt to do whatever you hope to my credibility?
Get a life where you don't need me for your drama please.
I added the climate hoax stuff to bug you because you keep trying to bug me.
Will you ever give Nomads a trip report to enjoy or just keep mis quoting me for your ego padding?


You really should have left this one alone. You have just admitted to trolling with a he started it statement. :no::no:


dtbushpilot - 3-31-2016 at 08:43 PM

Quote: Originally posted by DianaT  
Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Wrong about what Ralph?
What I actually posted here or how you spin it to attempt to do whatever you hope to my credibility?
Get a life where you don't need me for your drama please.
I added the climate hoax stuff to bug you because you keep trying to bug me.
Will you ever give Nomads a trip report to enjoy or just keep mis quoting me for your ego padding?


You really should have left this one alone. You have just admitted to trolling with a he started it statement. :no::no:







:?::?:

chuckie - 4-1-2016 at 04:17 AM

Same Old...

chuckie - 4-1-2016 at 06:16 AM

More same old

mtgoat666 - 4-1-2016 at 06:29 AM

Quote: Originally posted by rts551  
Quote: Originally posted by David K  
? What is the hub-bub Ralph is alluding to?

I reported the HISTORY of this highway... and the HISTORY is 6-7 miles per year AVERAGE since this project began at Puertecitos in 2007.

I also said UNLESS the rate of progress changes, it will be done in about 3 years (I said that a year ago).

Nothing I said is incorrect or needs to be altered. The rate of construction has seemed to step up... but will it be done in 9 months or 1 year and 9 months...? That would be a PREDICTION, much like the climate and sea level alarmists like to use! So far their predictions are WRONG. How the highway advances is yet to be seen.

There are still 50 miles of unstarted new highway to build between San Felipe and Puertecitos for the project to be completed. The current roadbed north of Puertecitos was built in 1982 and paved the first time about 10 yeas after... so thin it was mostly gone by 1999. Repaved in the mid 2000s... but still not a high speed road like the rest of Mexico 5.


David, You did not have to bring in the sea level as a distracter did you? and then if that is not enough , you now are saying it has to include the new road between San Felipe and Puertecitos. Another herring. I think everyone knows what we have been talking about.

You see Hook, Never wrong. no hub bub.

Why couldn't David just say...Wow, I was wrong. Glad they threw the resources at it.


[Edited on 4-1-2016 by rts551]


Have you ever noticed that many of the threads on nomad evolve to become about DK? I think if you do a search you will find that of all the posts in the past year, 25% of the posts include reference to dk and That palm tree.

Nomads are sick and tired of hearing about dk's damn palm tree!



[Edited on 4-1-2016 by mtgoat666]

chuckie - 4-1-2016 at 06:34 AM

:barf::barf::barf::barf::barf::barf:

rts551 - 4-1-2016 at 07:25 AM

I think the goat got it. I posted an article to provide a news worthy item about Mex 5. No mention of DK. only deniers that the road would be finished...of which there are many. There were many. many excellent comments until Davis interjected with his I, I, I, comments. I guess he just could not stand that his name was not mentioned. Then she starts with the Palm Trees.. then the hate stuff ( I guess he has a real issue here). Then the constantly mentioned...What a self-centered _____ (you fill in the blank). No one mentioned him. Take a look. I guess DK or his coop are the only ones allowed to post a news item here. You got it right Chuckie...:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(

rts551 - 4-1-2016 at 07:00 PM

Blame DT for bring you up. I don't care. Quit being self centered. No one else mentioned you. Thanks for ruining an informative thread.

bajaguy - 4-1-2016 at 07:43 PM

Pretty much think you all ruined it. The usual suspects at work

dtbushpilot - 4-1-2016 at 08:01 PM

Good observation bajaguy, I'm happy to be available to point out the obvious in these posts. I found goat's edit particularly amusing, he also pointed out the obvious then deleted it....Freudian slip maybe?:biggrin:

bajaguy - 4-1-2016 at 08:25 PM

These people could take a cream puff and turn it into a feces sandwich
Quote: Originally posted by dtbushpilot  
Good observation bajaguy, I'm happy to be available to point out the obvious in these posts. I found goat's edit particularly amusing, he also pointed out the obvious then deleted it....Freudian slip maybe?:biggrin:

rts551 - 4-1-2016 at 08:26 PM

It was fine Bajaguy. look at it from the top...lots of good comments from all perspectives....until DT commented and then the Palm trees had to come out. DT could have had something constructive to say...but no...just destructive. David could have added his perspective...but nooo palm trees......Some people just can't stand it unless they are the center of attention. The we have the rest of the coop start to rally. Usual COOP subjects.

rts551 - 4-1-2016 at 08:36 PM

Let me ask you this, COOP, is there any reason David and David had to say anything at all since they added nothing to the subject of the thread. After all they are "only here to help".

[Edited on 4-2-2016 by rts551]

bajabuddha - 4-1-2016 at 08:37 PM

Hahahaha, oh my lord my sides hurt. I STARTED IT by bringing up the 'elephant in the room' that wasn't saying anything....... and then comes the GOP debates about "wu-ull, I didn't start it, HE did...." ...and, " wull, I wuz just 'counter-punching, so NEENER - NEENER".... OH, what a carnival. And as usual, it's all about DK, our mis-guided martyr, our bastion of perfection, our own Hero Of The Boards.

OK, I do now HUMBLY apologize for the fact I haven't been able to fish for the last couple of seasons, so yes, I cast out a leeeeeetle bait (I haven't cut bait and fished for over 5 years; strictly iron) and threw it into the pond. I didn't know suckers were salt-water species. One leeeeetle tiny teensy weeeeensy bit of bait........ man, what a haul.

HAW HAW. Nomania rules. FISH ON! :bounce:

Back to the highway; will be completed very soon. Baja will change because of it. The funniest part is, the Puertecitos stretch will turn to utter dog-doo-doo in a year or two most; will they patch that? What will the semi's do to the gully-wumps? I remember that stretch being worse than the rest of the road all the way to Chapala because of the poor asphalt, dips, dunks, holes, detours...... ah, Baja. The fun never ends.

mtgoat666 - 4-1-2016 at 08:38 PM

Quote: Originally posted by rts551  
Thanks for ruining an informative thread.


I don't think the thread was ever particularly informative. It's a road being worked on and an end date is near. Anyone can figure that out, even without aid of a picture of a palm tree.

dtbushpilot - 4-1-2016 at 08:56 PM

Admirable of you to take some ownership Buddha, I appreciate that. Hook came to the "elephant's" defense and rts jumped in to explain why he was wrong about the "elephant" .....but of course he wasn't referring to DK....ok, glad we cleared that up.

willardguy - 4-1-2016 at 09:18 PM

:lol: you fothermuckers! I always fall prey to these april fools pranks;) you got me again!

dtbushpilot - 4-1-2016 at 09:20 PM

Quote: Originally posted by rts551  
Let me ask you this, COOP, is there any reason David and David had to say anything at all since they added nothing to the subject of the thread. After all they are "only here to help".

[Edited on 4-2-2016 by rts551]



If you are referring to me you obviously have me confused with someone who is "only here to help" .....I've never claimed or necessarily demonstrated such a thing...

I have driven that road several times in the past year, they are moving right along but have a lot to do to finish the job. There are more workers and machinery working there now than there has ever been on this project as far as I can tell. They have a lot of engineering challenges on this last section as they seem to be carving their way straight through some significant hills. The last time through I saw them preparing for an impressively large dynamite blast of solid rock, they probably did it at night because the road would have had to be shut down for at least a few hours. The road may be done this year....or maybe not, this is Mexico after all.

There, I offered something informative to the topic of conversation from a "first hand" observation, not from a link to someone else's story. It's more of the same stuff told over and over again, same spit, different day.

There is a rock in the bay in front of Rancho Buena Vista. It is visible at low tide but at high tide it is covered by water. There is a flag planted on the rock so that boats know where it is at high tide. According to Tony they have marked it with a flag for 50 years or so, that's as far back as he can remember. I asked him if it looks the same today as it did 50 years ago, he said it does.....I'll see if I can get a picture of it....

dtbushpilot - 4-1-2016 at 09:23 PM

Quote: Originally posted by willardguy  
:lol: you fothermuckers! I always fall prey to these april fools pranks;) you got me again!


:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:.....GOT YOU!!?........

dtbushpilot - 4-2-2016 at 08:03 AM

I only told the story of the rock with the flag on it because I thought some folks might be entertained by the thought, you don't see a rock with a flag on it every day or a flag seemingly floating on the surface out in the middle of the bay. I hadn't considered that someone might think it had something to do with climate change which, by the way, I believe is happening. It was the thought of the road workers drilling all those holes in the rock to set their blasting compound that got me thinking of the challenging project it must have been to drill the hole in the rock for the flag out in the middle of the bay. I wasn't trying to hijack the thread but now that I re-read it I can see where one might read something else into what I wrote.

If you want to talk about a topic other than the road project you should start a new thread....




[Edited on 4-2-2016 by dtbushpilot]

David K - 4-2-2016 at 08:16 AM

The road construction progress has several threads here on Nomad, dating back to 2008. As someone who actually documents the progress year by year, I find it amusing when, out of the blue, I am suddenly "wrong" with my 9 years of observations documenting the end of pavement advances. Those figures show the rate as I have stated. That the rate of change may happen was never questioned by me. I said it would be done sooner IF the rate changed. So far, the rate is still unchanged.

The highway has been paved about 60 miles from Puertecitos over the past 9 years (Spring 2007 to Spring 2016). 60/9 = 6.7 miles per year.

Approx. 20 miles, using the bypass that cuts 3 miles of the distance, to go. 20/6.7 = 3 years... IF THE RATE DOESN'T CHANGE.

bajabuddha - 4-2-2016 at 03:14 PM

*makes 'elephant-trumpeting' noise*

mtgoat666 - 4-2-2016 at 03:43 PM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
The road construction progress has several threads here on Nomad, dating back to 2008. As someone who actually documents the progress year by year, I find it amusing when, out of the blue, I am suddenly "wrong" with my 9 years of observations documenting the end of pavement advances. Those figures show the rate as I have stated. That the rate of change may happen was never questioned by me. I said it would be done sooner IF the rate changed. So far, the rate is still unchanged.


why don't you post your raw data so we can see your data on road construction and derivation of construction rates?



rts551 - 4-2-2016 at 04:43 PM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
The road construction progress has several threads here on Nomad, dating back to 2008. As someone who actually documents the progress year by year, I find it amusing when, out of the blue, I am suddenly "wrong" with my 9 years of observations documenting the end of pavement advances. Those figures show the rate as I have stated. That the rate of change may happen was never questioned by me. I said it would be done sooner IF the rate changed. So far, the rate is still unchanged.

The highway has been paved about 60 miles from Puertecitos over the past 9 years (Spring 2007 to Spring 2016). 60/9 = 6.7 miles per year.

Approx. 20 miles, using the bypass that cuts 3 miles of the distance, to go. 20/6.7 = 3 years... IF THE RATE DOESN'T CHANGE.


You make it sound like you are the only one traveling that road. Got news for you buddy. Some of us travel it 5-6 times a year not once every 5 years. You want to argue with BCSNoticias...send them a letter. After all that was the subject of this thread,... NOT YOU.

DT has it right....but you are beyond help.

[Edited on 4-2-2016 by rts551]

bajaguy - 4-2-2016 at 04:49 PM

All right, folks. Nothing to see here, move it along

rts551 - 4-2-2016 at 05:37 PM

Quote: Originally posted by bajaguy  
All right, folks. Nothing to see here, move it along



Pppppppfffffffffttttttttttttt

Ateo - 4-2-2016 at 08:22 PM

I'm going back to posting in OT where everyone respects each other.

David K - 4-2-2016 at 09:30 PM

You know what is hilarious is that I have never contested what the article said. It might get done this year. Ralph just had to mention my past documenting the rate as if that was the final word from me on the date. I clearly said 2018 or 2019 IF THE RATE DOESN'T CHANGE.... but it very well might change. That's the future... the undiscovered country.

dtbushpilot - 4-2-2016 at 09:33 PM

We all get that David, let's move along now.....

tripledigitken - 4-2-2016 at 10:06 PM

Does anyone know how many bridges are being constructed? They more than paving are the critical path to completion.

bajaguy - 4-3-2016 at 05:33 AM

Going to be interesting to see how the "new" section of highway stands up to commercial vehicle use. Two years ago north of Gonzaga it was already starting to pothole and show cracks and fractures

Build roads and not have any preventative maintenance plans seem to be the norm in Baja