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Tecate?

BajaCanuck - 10-6-2016 at 10:22 AM

Hi all,

Is anyone here living in Tecate?

Just trying to gauge the likelihood of finding a nice apartment there, versus the more populated, expat friendly hot spots like TJ or Ensenada.

Hubby doesn't qualify for SENTRI due to a system glitch that says he overstayed by a few days in the USA over 9 years ago (he did not! But try fixing that issue with officials! LOL) so we're exploring other options that would allow us to cross easily and frequently (as Canadians) into the US to shop, enjoy entertainment, take road trips, etc.

Thanks in advance!

[Edited on 10-6-2016 by BajaCanuck]

[Edited on 10-6-2016 by BajaCanuck]

SFandH - 10-6-2016 at 10:29 AM

http://casas.mitula.mx/casas/renta-departamentos-tecate

SENTRI

bajaguy - 10-6-2016 at 10:32 AM

You can file an appeal with SENTRI. Many of their original decisions are overturned, especially if you have proof....definitely worth it!!

This rental just showed up in Punta Banda (Ensenada):

HOME SITS ON A HILL OVERLOOKING ENSENADA BAY, BEAUTIFUL VIEW AT NIGHT OF THE CITY LIGHTS. TWO BEDROOM. TWO BATH CABIN SET UP FOR A COUPLE OR SINGLE PERSON. LARGE ROOMS AND HUGE WRAPAROUND PORCH. GREAT PACIFIC OCEAN VIEWS FROM THE FRONT PORCH. FULLY FURNISHED. IN A GATED COMMUNITY, CAMP 7.
RENT FOR SIX MONTHS OR LONGER. $600 PER MONTH.

[Edited on 10-6-2016 by bajaguy]

BajaCanuck - 10-6-2016 at 11:23 AM

Thanks! We've considered it, and he has heard that 10 years is a "magic number" so this summer he will make one more application. If he gets denied, we'll appeal at that point for sure. You never know, right?!

As it is, he holds a Canadian passport and we cross from Ontario into NY willy-nilly for shopping and dinner, so he has definitely been developing an excellent track record of "behaving" which might help.

Unfortunately, there's not much "proof" of the initial error that happened so many years ago. It's really hard to convince them of an error - they probably hear it every 5 minutes. In HIS case, it WAS an actual error... But probably 9 times out of 10, there was really an overstay or misbehaviour. Ah well.

Ensenada will probably be another place to check out. The drive to Tecate to cross is about the same drive as to TJ, without the traffic (bonus!)

QUESTION: Are all the roads around there safe to be driving during the day from a criminal activity perspective? These are mainly the 2/2D to TJ and Mexicali, and 3 through wine country that I am asking about. I know the 1D is well used and generally considered safe.

woody with a view - 10-6-2016 at 11:28 AM

The end game of life is death. Therefore, life in and of itself is unsafe. Sheesh.

BajaCanuck - 10-6-2016 at 11:39 AM

Quote: Originally posted by woody with a view  
The end game of life is death. Therefore, life in and of itself is unsafe. Sheesh.


Okay, but for those not wishing to go out of their way to reach the end game sooner...

Look. I realize that you all probably get enough "is it safe?!" questions that you roll your eyes. But don't let that desensitize you to the fact that there's a spectrum of comfort from "just like driving around the USA/Canada" to "why on earth would you drive around there unless you're just ASKING for trouble?!" and it's reasonable for someone to want to know where on the spectrum the highways around a place they're considering moving to fall.

Nobody is asking if it's perfectly safe. There's an assumption of risk on ANY highway. But as drivers in Canada and the US, we aren't used to worrying about crime on the highways. We're also used to law enforcement being "good guys" not "bad guys" so it ISN'T an unreasonable question.

Bajaboy - 10-6-2016 at 11:42 AM

I feel safe in and around Tecate.

MulegeAL - 10-6-2016 at 11:49 AM

Only paid mordita once there, but the process was safe.

He kept his 9mm in the holster, though he did unsnap the strap, saw that in the sideview mirror.

Really, if you don't drive around a lot at night, is just latino-hectic OK traffic. Main issue is drunk drivers at night, no different than stateside.

bajaguy - 10-6-2016 at 11:51 AM

The only thing to worry about are the potholes in the road

David K - 10-6-2016 at 02:42 PM

I feel safer driving anywhere in Baja, than I do anywhere else!

gsbotanico - 10-6-2016 at 05:48 PM

I find it safe enough driving the roads around Tecate. Take the usual precautions. In Tecate itself be careful to come to a complete stop at stop signs. There has been a rogue cop hanging near the main police station on the road that goes east of the zócalo and then loops around to go to the border crossing. Watch the stop signs in the areas just before turning west along the border toward US Customs.

BajaCanuck - 10-6-2016 at 08:47 PM

Thanks, guys!

koko - 10-10-2016 at 03:47 AM

Quote: Originally posted by bajaguy  
You can file an appeal with SENTRI. Many of their original decisions are overturned, especially if you have proof....definitely worth it!!

This rental just showed up in Punta Banda (Ensenada):

HOME SITS ON A HILL OVERLOOKING ENSENADA BAY, BEAUTIFUL VIEW AT NIGHT OF THE CITY LIGHTS. TWO BEDROOM. TWO BATH CABIN SET UP FOR A COUPLE OR SINGLE PERSON. LARGE ROOMS AND HUGE WRAPAROUND PORCH. GREAT PACIFIC OCEAN VIEWS FROM THE FRONT PORCH. FULLY FURNISHED. IN A GATED COMMUNITY, CAMP 7.
RENT FOR SIX MONTHS OR LONGER. $600 PER MONTH.

[Edited on 10-6-2016 by bajaguy]


Do you have the link for the rental

mtgoat666 - 10-10-2016 at 06:22 AM

Relative to commuting to usa, You inquired if tecate roads are safe?
Hwy 94 is a deadly hwy. high speed, no center divider. And a casino just opened in jamul, so DUI drivers on hwy just increased.

Rural hwys in mexico are prob more dangerous than 94, given the narrower shoulders and relative lack of maintenance and signage.

bajaguy - 10-10-2016 at 07:28 AM

I'll see if I can find it
Quote: Originally posted by koko  


Do you have the link for the rental

bajaguy - 10-10-2016 at 07:38 AM

Info sent, check your u2u messages
Quote: Originally posted by bajaguy  
I'll see if I can find it

Quote: Originally posted by koko  


Do you have the link for the rental

vandenberg - 10-10-2016 at 07:39 AM

The beer sucks!!

wilderone - 10-10-2016 at 08:13 AM

It's a long way to a decent shopping center from Tecate. Living in Ensenada, driving to Tecate to cross to shop or for entertainment in US "frequently" seems inconvenient (or with added gas, not cost-effective). Maybe consider modifying routine so you're not crossing so often.

DENNIS - 10-10-2016 at 08:43 AM




Yeah, but....going on 94 to Otay Lakes Road puts you in Eastlake. Every store known to civilized man is within a couple of miles on Eastlake Parkway. Can't give mileage, but it's around twelve miles from Tecate. Another five miles down the road [which changes its name to telegraph Canyon], and you hit the 805.

Udo - 10-10-2016 at 09:36 AM

Including Trader Joe's.

motoged - 10-10-2016 at 10:07 AM

Quote: Originally posted by DENNIS  



Yeah, but....going on 94 to Otay Lakes Road puts you in Eastlake. Every store known to civilized man is within a couple of miles on Eastlake Parkway. Can't give mileage, but it's around twelve miles from Tecate. Another five miles down the road [which changes its name to telegraph Canyon], and you hit the 805.


Yes, and it's such a pretty drive along Telegraph Canyon road to 805...with an AAA office in the mall just east of 805....pick up a Baja map...

mtgoat666 - 10-10-2016 at 10:34 AM

Wear your seat belt on 94. Casino opened today, free liquor is flowing. We are taking bets for date/time of first head on fatality due to drunk gambler.

carlosg - 10-10-2016 at 12:43 PM

Quote: Originally posted by DENNIS  



Yeah, but....going on 94 to Otay Lakes Road puts you in Eastlake. Every store known to civilized man is within a couple of miles on Eastlake Parkway. Can't give mileage, but it's around twelve miles from Tecate. Another five miles down the road [which changes its name to telegraph Canyon], and you hit the 805.


...its 27 miles from the Tecate border to Eastlake Pwy. in Eastlake where you will find three shopping centers: Vons Mall, Village Walk and Eastlake Village Market Place; about 2 miles south from Otay Lakes Rd on Eastlake Pwy. there's 2 more shopping centers: Otay Ranch Town Center and another Vons center... more info here:

http://www.eastlakeshopper.com/eastlake_shopping_centers.htm...

..down west on H street there's a Costco... a lot of options...

[Edited on 10-10-2016 by carlosg]

mtgoat666 - 10-10-2016 at 02:28 PM

Casino grand opening today created traffic jam on 94 stretching from jamul to RSD. Road is essentially grid locked. People lining up to throw their money away! Who ever heard of such a crazy thing?

Gulliver - 10-11-2016 at 05:04 AM

Where is this new casino? In Tecate?

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mojo_norte - 10-11-2016 at 07:34 AM

casino ..

http://www.hollywoodcasinojamul.com/About/Directions

DENNIS - 10-11-2016 at 09:05 AM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Wear your seat belt on 94. Casino opened today, free liquor is flowing. We are taking bets for date/time of first head on fatality due to drunk gambler.


I thought it was illegal in California to give away liquor. Free booze is considered an enticement to drink as well as a liability issue for the house.

DENNIS - 10-11-2016 at 09:11 AM

Quote: Originally posted by mojo_norte  
casino ..

http://www.hollywoodcasinojamul.com/About/Directions



It shows the "Jamul Indian Village." What an overstatement. I used to do a daily walk through there a while back, and it didn't take long. About twenty old houses is all there was.

wilderone - 10-11-2016 at 09:16 AM

Tribal sovereignty, and its self-governance, allows them to do things on reservation land than otherwise. Including gambling.

SFandH - 10-11-2016 at 09:34 AM

Will members of the tribe split the profits?

Lots of Mexicans will be crossing at Tecate to visit the casino. More traffic.

The tribe has a winner (the house) on their hands.

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carlosg - 10-11-2016 at 10:41 AM

Quote: Originally posted by DENNIS  
Quote: Originally posted by mojo_norte  
casino ..

http://www.hollywoodcasinojamul.com/About/Directions



It shows the "Jamul Indian Village." What an overstatement. I used to do a daily walk through there a while back, and it didn't take long. About twenty old houses is all there was.


I can remember that back in the 60's while riding with my dad on our way back to Tecate I could only see -from Hwy 94- a couple (5-10) run down white shacks and old abandoned cars on the hill with clotheslines and a couple of people and animals moving around.
Quote: Originally posted by wilderone  
Tribal sovereignty, and its self-governance, allows them to do things on reservation land than otherwise. Including gambling.


As far as I can remember I was told that land was given to them by Mr Daley who had a beautiful horse ranch at the bottom of the hill (east on 94) and who on owned (owns) all the land around them, these people worked for him and were provided with a place to live: federal reservation? At one point this was one of the issues presented by the residents battling the casino... last night traffic was backed up to the freeway... someone mentioned that it usually takes 20 minutes to drive home: last night 2 hours!!!

Gulliver - 10-11-2016 at 11:52 AM

I come in to Tecate from Anza Borrego so I probably won't get my tires too sticky on the blood and alcohol.

wilderone - 10-11-2016 at 02:46 PM

So evidently there were other opinions about the "reservation" lands. And the tribe had to purchase additional contiguous land to have enough for the size of casino they envisioned (with maximum slots). And somehow they sidestepped an EIR. And it opened before the promised Caltrans improvements.

"... attorney who has waged a one-man legal war against the Jamul band's casino plans, disputes Mesa's claim that newly acquired land would make gaming legal. It's one of a few fronts on which he's fought the war against the casino. "[The Indians] believe," Webb says, "that if that land was in trust status, that it would qualify to allow Indian gaming to take place on it. [My clients] do not believe that is what the statute says. The National Indian Gaming Statute says that you have to have a reservation that is either declared as a reservation by the President, by Congress, or by a treaty ratified by the Senate."

Mesa says that's only half of the story. "The federal regulations on that issue say you can game on land contiguous [to a previously existing reservation]. And all the land we're buying is contiguous to the original land."

Gulliver - 10-11-2016 at 04:41 PM

Given the generally wretched treatment those "Pesky Redskins" have gotten from us Europeans, including the Spanish, the whole Gadsden "Purchase" should be given to a neutral party (the indians) and let them build casinos to their (and our) hearts content.

Tobacco, lotteries and gambling of those sorts are just a tax on stupidity, retarded math skills and the associated class issues. Taxes that I mostly don't pay. Hurrah!

My tribal friends here in the N.W. look at the parking lots at the casino and say, "White gold!".

DENNIS - 10-11-2016 at 04:51 PM



Consider today's world if Custer had just one machine gun.

Gulliver - 10-11-2016 at 04:58 PM

Consider todays world if the locals had had some immunity to european diseases and some sort of tamable beasts of burden.

The americas and Africa didn't have big animals that are tamable. Imagine the europeans running into Zulu warriors mounted on rhinos! Yeehaw!

motoged - 10-11-2016 at 05:38 PM

Quote: Originally posted by DENNIS  


Consider today's world if Custer had just one machine gun.


Truly spoken by one of the Deplorables....shame on you, Dennis. :no:

mtgoat666 - 10-11-2016 at 06:38 PM

Tribes can purchase land and place it in trust, thereby making it part of their sovereign lands.

It is ironic genius that small, poor tribes in California are now fleecing the gringos!

Personally, I haven't gambled in many years. Gambling is only for fools. (I'm glad the Indians are fleecing those fools.)
Quote: Originally posted by wilderone  
So evidently there were other opinions about the "reservation" lands. And the tribe had to purchase additional contiguous land to have enough for the size of casino they envisioned (with maximum slots). And somehow they sidestepped an EIR. And it opened before the promised Caltrans improvements.

"... attorney who has waged a one-man legal war against the Jamul band's casino plans, disputes Mesa's claim that newly acquired land would make gaming legal. It's one of a few fronts on which he's fought the war against the casino. "[The Indians] believe," Webb says, "that if that land was in trust status, that it would qualify to allow Indian gaming to take place on it. [My clients] do not believe that is what the statute says. The National Indian Gaming Statute says that you have to have a reservation that is either declared as a reservation by the President, by Congress, or by a treaty ratified by the Senate."

Mesa says that's only half of the story. "The federal regulations on that issue say you can game on land contiguous [to a previously existing reservation]. And all the land we're buying is contiguous to the original land."

DENNIS - 10-11-2016 at 07:04 PM

Quote: Originally posted by motoged  
Quote: Originally posted by DENNIS  


Consider today's world if Custer had just one machine gun.


Truly spoken by one of the Deplorables....shame on you, Dennis. :no:



I am honored. "One of the Deplorables?" Me?
I've finally made the big time.