BajaNomad - New Car Purchase

New Car Purchase

hermosok123 - 12-16-2016 at 01:50 PM

Has any member purchased a new car from a dealer here? Can they be registered in the US?

bajaguy - 12-16-2016 at 01:59 PM

Check to be sure any new car you purchase here and want to register in the US meets US safety and emission standards or no-go

Quote: Originally posted by hermosok123

Has any member purchased a new car from a dealer here? Can they be registered in the US?

pacsur - 12-16-2016 at 03:02 PM

A friend from Idaho bought a new Honda here in San Jose, a few years later he wasn't allowed to re-register here because he travels on a tourist card and transito cracked down on non residents.
He then drove it to Sun Valley and tried to register it, I warned him it's the same as a gray market car from Europe and he would have to import to the USA first, not only would the little dmv up there not register it, they tried charging him almost $1000 usd for driving it on Idaho roads, the car has been back down here ever since, he ended up going back to the Honda dealer and they took care of his registration.

chippy - 12-16-2016 at 04:46 PM

I have (well mainland Mex.) x3. No you won´t be able to legalize them in the USA. No epa down here :cool:

bajatrailrider - 12-16-2016 at 06:03 PM

On my Mexican Nissan turbo diesel pick up 2014 noway to reg in the U.S.

DENNIS - 12-16-2016 at 06:42 PM

Quote: Originally posted by soulpatch

I'll let you know next month.
Going to purchase a F250 with the 6.7L with a lot less of the smog stuff on it.
Of course, I am never going to import it to the USA.

Never say nunca. What if you want to sell it? Wouldn't that affect your market?

weebray - 12-17-2016 at 08:05 AM

Quote: Originally posted by soulpatch

I'll let you know next month.
Going to purchase a F250 with the 6.7L with a lot less of the smog stuff on it.
Of course, I am never going to import it to the USA.

"with a lot less smog stuff on it." Way to go!

Howard - 12-17-2016 at 08:57 AM

How do new car prices compare in Mexico VS the U.S.? Is there a price difference between Baja and the mainland? Is haggling expected just like up North?

Just curious.

DaliDali - 12-17-2016 at 11:50 AM

2016 F-250 SD Crew Cab 4x4 6.7 diesel.

http://www.fordbajacal.mx/F-250/16/Financiamiento/SUPER-DUTY...

$40K and change or 806000 P....

A 50K plus truck all day, every day NOB....

DENNIS - 12-17-2016 at 12:12 PM

How do the taxes and finance charges compare? I know credit can be expensive down here.

DaliDali - 12-17-2016 at 12:24 PM

Quote: Originally posted by DENNIS

How do the taxes and finance charges compare? I know credit can be expensive down here.

129K taxes is probably a given.
@ 16% in pesos

[Edited on 12-17-2016 by DaliDali]

mtgoat666 - 12-17-2016 at 08:04 PM

Quote: Originally posted by DaliDali

Quote: Originally posted by DENNIS

How do the taxes and finance charges compare? I know credit can be expensive down here.

129K taxes is probably a given.
@ 16% in pesos

[Edited on 12-17-2016 by DaliDali]

Is that 16% finance rate?
Or are you saying 16% tax?
Or both?

El Jefe - 12-18-2016 at 09:34 AM

I would be concerned about the possible lack of safety features with a vehicle bought in Mex vs the USA. How about air bags, ABS, etc. on the F250?

Don Jorge - 12-18-2016 at 10:30 AM

Quote: Originally posted by El Jefe

I would be concerned about the possible lack of safety features with a vehicle bought in Mex vs the USA. How about air bags, ABS, etc. on the F250?

A good point indeed. Also, it is not an apple to apple comparison it appears a least regarding engine performance specs.

A quick search of Ford Mex web lists Mex market 6.7 diesels HP @ 300 and Torque @ 660lb. http://www.fordbajacal.mx/pdf/catalogos/F25016.pdf

American market 6.7 diesels are listed @ 440 hp and 925 lbs Torque
http://www.ford.com/trucks/superduty/specifications/engine/

Those are significant performance differentials. If you are towing, carrying loads or both, the 440 hp and 925 lbs torque in the gringo model gets it done. The Mex version would not compare.

However, fuel mileage comparison numbers between the two would be an interesting study. The Mex version is obviously tuned down compared to the gringo version and no doubt gets much better fuel economy.

Of course, a good diesel shop could tune the pump and switch out injectors to get the better performance numbers but at what cost and a warranty void risk also.

In a time long gone in Mexico, diesel was much, much less money per gallon. That paradigm is but a memory and outside of load and towing capacity there is no economic motive to purchase diesel trucks for use anywhere IMHO.

As always financing is Mexico straddles usury. According to the Ford Mex website finance rates are 14.9%! Cheaper to buy it with your credit card :lol:

DaliDali - 12-18-2016 at 11:51 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Don Jorge

Quote: Originally posted by El Jefe

I would be concerned about the possible lack of safety features with a vehicle bought in Mex vs the USA. How about air bags, ABS, etc. on the F250?

As always financing is Mexico straddles usury. According to the Ford Mex website finance rates are 14.9%! Cheaper to buy it with your credit card :lol:

But that 14.9% interest rate is on pesos.
Some math wizard will come along and set us all straight how 14.9% on pesos would equal how much % in USD. Or not.

mjs - 12-18-2016 at 11:56 AM

[/rquote]

But that 14.9% interest rate is on pesos.
Some math wizard will come along and set us all straight how 14.9% on pesos would equal how much % in USD. Or not.[/rquote]

:light:

El Jefe - 12-18-2016 at 12:22 PM

For me it doesn't really matter. As a PR immigrant I can't drive a foreign plated vehicle and import fees and obstacles have gone up considerably since when I first imported my Isuzu Rodeo 4 years ago.[/rquote]

Check, check on safety items according to specs. Good to know.

Makes total sense to buy your vehicle in Mex as a resident.

BajaTed - 12-18-2016 at 01:00 PM

Buy cheap in America solution:
Wait till the (epic climate change induced)

spring time hail storms in the midwest, lots of sales on hail damaged brand NEW trucks . $20K in savings or more, buy a new hood, windshield and roof rack. Lift the truck and no one can see the roof

AKgringo - 12-18-2016 at 02:48 PM

Quote: Originally posted by BajaTed

Buy cheap in America solution:
Wait till the (epic climate change induced)

spring time hail storms in the midwest, lots of sales on hail damaged brand NEW trucks . $20K in savings or more, buy a new hood, windshield and roof rack. Lift the truck and no one can see the roof

Replacing the windshield makes sense, but I like my vehicles pre-stressed. It takes a lot of the pain out of what I occasionally wind up doing to them!

surabi - 12-18-2016 at 06:41 PM

I'm not a math whiz, but 14.9% interest is 14.9% interest no matter what currency you are paying in.

Don Jorge - 12-20-2016 at 08:16 AM

Quote: Originally posted by soulpatch

Don Jorge, those specs are for the 2017.
The 2017 specs in Mexico are 330HP and a dealer tune puts it right where the USA specs are with better mileage.

The tune is supposed to, while increasing HP, increase mileage, too.
Go figure.
[Edited on 12-18-2016 by soulpatch]

Ah, the secret handshake and the no added cost dealer tune. Did not read about that. Fuel pump tune and new injectors? Or are the injector tips interchangeable to add more flow? Be interesting to have them put it on a dyno before and after they do it and back up their banter.

No doubt that Mex model will get better fuel mileage than the American model at comparable performance specs due to less exhaust restriction. But increasing hp and torque by burning less fuel?

Reminds one of the folks who claim their diesel trucks burn the same amount of fuel with no load vs. loaded to max or over GVCW. It is not true. You will burn more fuel loaded and likewise have to believe a tune to increase hp and torque will cost more fuel.

But $40 k for a new crew cab, F250 with the 6.7 seems like a fair price regardless. You will love the truck. They ride nice and get the job done.

mtgoat666 - 12-20-2016 at 10:40 AM

Quote: Originally posted by soulpatch

I would not trust a new car where dealer tunes it different than mfg designed it to be tuned. Ask the dealer what he is doing, then ask an expert if the dealer is putting your engine at risk.

Do fords sold in mex come with air bags and abs? Why would you buy a car w/o these safety features?

Riom - 1-4-2017 at 12:04 AM

Quote: Originally posted by soulpatch

If I were to buy it in a border zone IVA is only 10%....

The lower IVA rate in the border zone was abolished three years ago. So it's 16%, wherever you buy in Mexico.

pacsur - 1-13-2017 at 11:58 AM

Just an obersavation-
If you are buying on credit? I believe new vehicles at dealerships have a registered sales price with Hacienda, meaning it's set in pesos and cannot go up or down once they put it on the lot, so if you bought something a couple of months ago and were making payments using usd then you probably would have saved 10%+? on the ever changing exchange rate, so if money is more important than waiting for the exact vehicle you want, buying something now could possible save you more money based or how far the peso might devalue, and only if your exchanging dollars to pay.

Martyman - 1-13-2017 at 12:23 PM

I gotta ask Soulpatch. Why would you buy a ford? My friends Ford Escape was uncomfortable, tinny and didn't last long.

amigobaja - 1-13-2017 at 12:41 PM

A friend in San Felipe is picking up his new 17 ford f150 ford 4X4 this week. Right on the Window sticker it says for use only in Mexico. He hoped four dealers and they were all the same price. No haggle. Between the exchange rate, the truck,taxes, license and insurance he figures he saved about 16K dollars. And yes it has anti lock breaks, airbags and stuff. It has all the features that a truck across the border has. One thing Ford doesn't have in Mexico is all the muches that know at the drop of a hat after a year of two they can get a sleaze ball lawyer to sue Ford under lemon laws and drive a car for free. You have to but a car in the states to do that.

Martyman - 1-19-2017 at 10:22 AM

Quote: Originally posted by soulpatch

Because they make good trucks.

I am not buying an Escape.

What do you suggest?

[Edited on 1-14-2017 by soulpatch]

Anything but a Ford. I'm on my third ford from work and while I can't say anything about the new one (F250) the past 2 have barely made 100k. I would buy a Toyota , Honda, Nissan, Kia, Isuzu, Dodge, Chevy before I ever buy a Ford.