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Last vaquita will probably die this month,... thanks to Chinese, Mexican cartels/smugglers, and Mexican fishermen

mtgoat666 - 4-28-2017 at 08:42 PM

Sad!

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/27/world/americas/only-capti...

It appears the vaquita is down to just a couple individuals left. Chinese quacks and fools, using Mexican fishermen, should cause the extinction in a matter of days... the Chinese and their Mexican fishermen buddies are probably probably rejoicing, hoping for increased fishing and smuggling opportinities.

All involved in causing the extinction should be shamed - surely there is a place in hell reserved for them, eh?

kevin_in_idaho - 4-28-2017 at 09:00 PM

That's very sad.

Adios Vaquita ?

MrBillM - 4-28-2017 at 09:53 PM

There's room in Hell for lots of souls.

The "Vacancy" sign is always lit.

I suppose that means the Mexican government saves the three-million dollars ?

No worries, though, there will certainly be some other species on the way to extinction soon enough for all to get involved.

[Edited on 4-29-2017 by MrBillM]

joerover - 4-28-2017 at 10:19 PM

Are there any blue whales left in the world?

LancairDriver - 4-28-2017 at 10:56 PM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Sad!

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/27/world/americas/only-capti...

It appears the vaquita is down to just a couple individuals left. Chinese quacks and fools, using Mexican fishermen, should cause the extinction in a matter of days... the Chinese and their Mexican fishermen buddies are probably probably rejoicing, hoping for increased fishing and smuggling opportinities.

All involved in causing the extinction should be shamed - surely there is a place in hell reserved for them, eh?


Now wait for the "they need to feed their families" excuses.

chippy - 4-29-2017 at 06:27 AM



Now wait for the "they need to feed their families" excuses.[/rquote]



I hate that line of bs:fire:. I guess they are feeding their familys new vehicles and cocaine:lol:.

Too Late to the Battle ?

MrBillM - 4-29-2017 at 09:05 AM

Whenever some environmental or social event attains "Crisis" status, the level of earnest concern and involvement (and funding) usually rises significantly.

Bringing to mind the question:

Where were they (the concerned) when it might have a chance of success ?

Is it only the LOST causes that generate the passion ?

Paco Facullo - 4-29-2017 at 09:32 AM

Hey, I've got a good idea?

Let's start a rumor that Mexican fisherman's livers are quite the aphrodisiac !

Being that they are really Macho and their livers have stood up to the copious amounts of beer and Tequila they have consumed. The older the liver the better.

Add in the fact that Latin Men are recognized as great lovers and you have a home run.

The Chinese will spend BIG bucks for anything they think will improve their labido.

Thus reducing the amount of fishermen and improving fish stocks..

Deep Thinking ?

MrBillM - 4-29-2017 at 09:47 AM

Give it a try and get back with the results.

I'm assuming that the crowd you converse with will give it the weight deserved.

DENNIS - 4-29-2017 at 09:54 AM


I might suggest "street dogs" but they're already reserved for menu items in Tijuana Chinese restaurants.
Oooohhhh I know. Perhaps China should be introduced to the size and stamina inducing qualities of North Korean flesh.

azucena - 4-29-2017 at 04:52 PM

Sin verguenzas, the whole lot.

While some may say it is JUST a vaquita, and there are more pressing problems, the web of life is complex and interwoven. You can't disturb a flower without troubling a star, the old saying goes..
Extinctions DO happen as part of this web of life, but when a species is decimated by human action based on greed and short sideness, it is despicable.
i have thought for sometime on this human experiment here on earth and I think we can now conclude it is an abject failure. We are terrible at taking care of one another, and are even worse at being stewards of the planet that sustains us.

bajabuddha - 4-29-2017 at 04:56 PM

Quote: Originally posted by azucena  
Sin verguenzas, the whole lot.

While some may say it is JUST a vaquita, and there are more pressing problems, the web of life is complex and interwoven. You can't disturb a flower without troubling a star, the old saying goes..
Extinctions DO happen as part of this web of life, but when a species is decimated by human action based on greed and short sideness, it is despicable.
i have thought for sometime on this human experiment here on earth and I think we can now conclude it is an abject failure. We are terrible at taking care of one another, and are even worse at being stewards of the planet that sustains us.


Totally agree. Give it a few weeks; NPRK will help solve the larger problem than just Vaquitas.

azucena - 4-29-2017 at 04:57 PM

BTW, people have been raising the alarm on the viability of the vaquita for awhile. No action was taken. It also seems to be human behavior that nothing is done UNTIL there is a crisis to get attention and then, it is too late.

azucena - 4-29-2017 at 05:45 PM

One thing the good ole US of A has , is the Endangered Species Act, which Nixon implemented. It is on Trump's chopping block. It has been a generally, very successful program (not without problems, but has worked ) So , for those who do not want ANOTHER crisis, speak now to preserve the ESA, to prevent a Vaquita in our back yard.


BajaMama - 4-30-2017 at 07:56 AM

Unfortunately the huge amounts of money from Asia for the swim bladder's non-existent effect on the blood flow into a phallus (and no I have no idea of this is what they are used for it is just my go to statement) the Vaquita will go the way of black rhinos and other species in which no empirical evidence of successful medicinal use has ever been documented. Poaching for homeopathic cures always seems to win over facts (sheesh don't these guys have viagra?). It makes me sick to my stomach that these cultures that want to keep up with modern technology still revert to this senseless killing.

Disturbing the Web of Life Can be Delightful ..........

MrBillM - 4-30-2017 at 03:30 PM

..............With every Rib-Eye.




azucena - 4-30-2017 at 07:57 PM

Until there's no more to eat

Breed to Feed

MrBillM - 4-30-2017 at 08:23 PM

One wonders whether there would have been more interest (and effort) made to keep the Vaquita around if they tasted as good ?

People Working to Help

GypsyJan - 4-30-2017 at 09:03 PM

http://www.vivavaquita.org/

yumawill - 5-1-2017 at 07:48 AM

Ilike the Mexican liver idea. But then again, I'm a little dark skinned and speak spanish and fish............No, no let's forget that idea................

Mexitron - 5-1-2017 at 10:29 AM

At least grab some DNA so if in the future if we have the means to regenerate a species we'll have the blueprint, though they are apparently fairly distant from other known species which makes a nursemaid species difficult. I wonder if they evolved and migrated up the gulf as it was split off the mainland by the subsumed East Pacific Rise...the proto-gulf would have been like the San Felipe to Salton Sea area but further south (minus the Colorado Delta).

Futuristic Fantasy

MrBillM - 5-1-2017 at 08:32 PM

Yeah, sure, you betcha.

Assuming that scientific advancement at some point in the distant future finally achieved, at great cost, the possibility of regenerating such a complex species ..................

WHERE, exactly, on the list would priorities place the Vaquita ?


Blue Whales

Duffys Tavern - 5-3-2017 at 01:52 PM

Quote: Originally posted by joerover  
Are there any blue whales left in the world?


Sightings in the Sea by cruisers were very common last year. Everyone remarked on the increase in whales, dolphin and sharks.

carlosg - 5-4-2017 at 08:41 AM

Sighting near San Felipe on May 2nd. 2017:

https://m.facebook.com/groups/606976129316997?view=permalink...

http://www.el-mexicano.com.mx/informacion/noticias/1/2/nacio...

[Edited on 5-4-2017 by carlosg]

fishbuck - 5-5-2017 at 01:52 PM

Remember the Vaquita! And use it as a rallying cry to save what's left in the Cortez before it's too late.

[Edited on 5-6-2017 by fishbuck]

unbob - 5-26-2017 at 05:03 PM

Latest Vaquita news story:
http://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2017/05/26/530205523/i...

fishbuck - 5-27-2017 at 12:34 PM

Hang in there Vaquita!

Kept Alive by Moral Support ?

MrBillM - 5-30-2017 at 01:04 PM

I'm sure that the last remaining (?) Vaquitas will be encouraged by the good thoughts expressed here.

Though, I suppose there's the possibility that they won't have read them.

[Edited on 5-30-2017 by MrBillM]