BajaNomad - Proceed with caution to Playa Santa Ynes

Proceed with caution to Playa Santa Ynes

Sharksbaja - 2-25-2005 at 02:14 PM

Have u seen or know this kayak man and tent??

Last week I took the road down to Playa S. Ynes. Easy drive on a well traveled dirt track. When I reached the beach the road parallels the playa for a mile to the end of the beach at the south end. I passed a ranchito 1/2 mile back and saw no problem with being there. I also passed a small family with a 4x4 camper from Alaska near the beach. As I approached the end of the road I spotted a dome tent on the beach with a kayak next to it. As i slowly drove past with courtesy(not even close to them) I saw a man waving his arms high, in one, a mostly empty bottle of tequila. I figured this guy was being socialable as I exited my truck a 100 yards down the road where it terminates. I took "Buzz" out for a romp on the beach. Well. here comes this gringo up the beach towards me still waving his arms. So we started walking toward him to meet him. WHAT A MISTAKE!!! This guy wasn't a happy camper. He was swearing at me accusing me of destoying the beach(which I wasn't even on) and then condemmed me for destroying Baja with my vehicle. I tried to talk to him and explain that the road was well traveled but he heard nothing. Still sceaming at me, my dog was really getting scared. This guy had a Mexican puppy and told me get the hell out of there. He was on the beach with a young Mexican boy maybe 14-15 yrs old. He said that I knew I should not be there and that the kid owned the whole coastline. It was like trying to talk to a drunk rock. My dog loves all, big or small and as he sniffed the puppys rear end the pince gringo told me that if I did not leave now"how would I like a dead dog". My reply was " your tent and gear should be moved" he said "what?" and I told him he was parked on the freeway and I was coming thru. Joke. I decided to split even tho there was 20 miles of vacant shoreline. As I left, his middle finger still high in air I thought.... hey, this nice guy wants to be noticed so I stopped and yelled over to him " I will make sure that you will be noticed and then when I got ready to take his pic he turned his head away so as not to be recognizable.
What in the hell are these over-zealous gringos doing here. They will never find a beach they can call their own and although I believe in respect for the land I am convinced that Mexicans made the road and it was for their livelyhood. As I took the photo from the road on zoom I didn't realize that he was sitting there with his arm around this kid. I almost......

here is the creep who would not have his photo taken, I wonder why???

wilderone - 2-25-2005 at 02:21 PM

He didn't have a car? Do you think the relationship with the kid was illegal? Maybe he was being aggressive to get you out of there so he could be alone for ...???

Sharksbaja - 2-25-2005 at 02:24 PM

no car, just boy and dog and kayak. I really did not even think that until later...
why wouldn't he want people near his camp?

wilderone - 2-25-2005 at 02:47 PM

What do you think his relationship was with the boy? fishing buddy?

privato??

Sharksbaja - 2-25-2005 at 03:32 PM

he only said that the kid was the owner the land. I presume he meant the local ejidos. I am relatively uneducated on the distribution of coastal E.J. lands but as I understand that as in US, the coastal lands are public domain or Fed. lands which I have been led to believe are accessable unless Fed closed. Access on the other hand thru private property may be restricted as u see along the BOC where E.J. sign are posted. At Playa S. Ines there are no signs and I pointed that out to the idiot. He retort was such"Signs!!!You act like you don't know but you do!!". Im loggin out for wrk

POSSIBLE

Skeet/Loreto - 2-25-2005 at 03:47 PM

It might be that he was awaiting a panga loaded with Greas from the other side and did not want anyone around to observe the comings and goings.

It might be that the Guy has gone "Nuts" sometimes that happens to the best of us when we have a "fit of anger' which I did on the Beach in front of Rancho Sonrisa: A crazy Hungerian Pilot was making very low and Dangerous over the Beach in his Motorizied Glider. There were familes with children, I took it upon my self to throw a very large rock at him on his next Low Pass. I came close! He was Irate!

Skeet/Loreto

woody with a view - 2-25-2005 at 05:28 PM

adults sometimes show their asses :moon:, and a 3/4 empty bottle of tequila will assist in that manuever.

i just feel sorry for the kid...there could be a number of explanations, not many of which are good.

I'd say the fact that he was drinking.....

Hook - 2-25-2005 at 05:52 PM

...explains his actions more than the fact that he was a gringo. :yes:

DanO - 2-25-2005 at 06:37 PM

Now, now, let's not start blaming this on poor, defenseless tequila. Tequila doesn't necessarily make people act stupid. They're stupid to begin with. Tequila just brings their stupidity to the surface by removing inhibitions and impairing judgment. Not that I would know from personal experience, of course, not being stupid myself.

Speaking to Skeet's point, on a crowded 4th of July weekend a few years back at La Bocana, some knucklehead in a Camaro was racing up and down the beach and spinning donuts, narrowly missing a lot of people, including kids. A group of soccer players dragged him out of the vehicle and started kicking the snot out of him. His friends then came to his aid, wielding bats, ice chests, rocks, you name it. Ugly. The problem with these group violence scenarios is that each person's stupidity isn't just added to the others. It actually increases the stupidity level exponentially, and if there's alcohol involved, well, I made that point above. It's no wonder that a lot of us are anti-social -- it's essential to avoiding group stupidity. It also helps you to avoid acting stupid yourself, because it feels, well, stupid to act stupid when there's no one else around except maybe the dog, who's looking at you kind of funny.

Anyway, the most interesting factor in the original post was the absence of a vehicle. The guy had to get there somehow. Very curious.

pince gringo whacko

Sharksbaja - 2-26-2005 at 01:54 AM

As a past true tester of spirits I know how alcohol affects and effects one. We all look pretty stupid drunk and we all look pretty stupid that mad and I have been there but when in beautiful place like Baja and when with a resident it does not bid well for us gringos. I believe that this man was a lone traveler. I actually thought he was a Mexican as his skin was so dark but it was one of those reburns that makes u more red than brown. Judging by his deeply burned tan. I think he landed there by Kayak alone and found a little friend, possible homeless but.... by his rage and insistence that I leave lends me believe he was up to something. Had I raced up or came in cross-country I could possible see his anger at destroying his peaceful setting but not the case. So if u come across that tent on a beach with a kayak and maybe a boy...be careful and if he obviously is doing bad things, well, u will know what to do....

PacO - 2-26-2005 at 10:32 AM

Some people are just flockinuts. Like really crazy.

KurtG - 2-26-2005 at 12:10 PM

It seems to me that this is worth reporting to local authorities.The threats of violence and the description of this encounter would probably get the interest of the police or immigration. I have seen the migra guys from Santa Rosalia kick a couple of "undesirables" out of the country over the years. Why not discuss this with someone you know and trust in the local Mulege community as to how to report it and to whom.

Sharksbaja - 2-26-2005 at 12:21 PM

It is a conundrum in a situation like this. If I did report this locally they would have to go investigate. This is good but I worried that if for some reason this arsehole had some legitimacy it could backfire on me. I would hate to be marked as a false alarmer, especially in this close-nit area. I was hoping someone could identify and either discharge my concerns or reaffirm this person was trouble. In the latter I would of course file a compaint. A fifteen year old would most likely not confess of any deviation. I would bet he is still in the general vicintity so keep your eyes peeled.

surfer jim - 2-26-2005 at 10:37 PM

That was Michael Jackson on vacation....not tequila..."Jesus Juice"....

Sharksbaja - 2-27-2005 at 01:36 AM

:no:

wilderone - 2-28-2005 at 10:22 AM

I think Bruce Leech should ask the local authorities to check it out. A look-see wouldn't hurt. I would hate to think that the boy was being exploited. And what if this a____e is some kinda nut - more victims? Theft or other violence on beach campers? A canadian woman once told me she was camped along that beach, and she went for a walk. She encountered a Mexican boy and had a conversation with him - thought it was strange that he should kind of appear out of nowhere and really had no reason to be there. She got back to her camp and found that she'd been burglarized. Apparently the friendly enounter was a ploy to keep her occupied while someone else - approaching by water - went through her stuff.

Playa Santa Inez

Sharksbaja - 2-28-2005 at 01:02 PM

A good dirt road maybe 8-10 miles north of Mulege where the playa turns to cliffs.
Get someone to drive down and look. It is an easy drive. I would feel better(or worse) if I knew the whole story. Maybe visit that little ranchito and see who all lives there. It's the only one I saw but could be more.

Pompano - 2-28-2005 at 02:06 PM

I know that area. We'll check it out by land and water for the kid's sake...and other kids maybe. Let's hope he was just a ornery SOB.

Muy bien , gracias

Sharksbaja - 2-28-2005 at 02:43 PM

JESSE - 2-28-2005 at 05:10 PM

A gringo on a beach with a 14 yr old Mexican boy, acting crazy because you showed up.

Enoug said.

Enoug said what?

Sharksbaja - 2-28-2005 at 07:33 PM

This post has more speculation......

Hook - 3-1-2005 at 03:09 PM

than the floor of the Chicago Board of Trade. :rolleyes:

I guess I need to brush up....

Hook - 3-1-2005 at 03:47 PM

...on how a gringo drug-runner-drunk-buggerer-of-an-ejido-owner's son, who appeared out of thin air or paddled in from I. Tiburon, walks. :lol:

But it might make a good Hollywood story pitch.....

Haven't ALL OF US acted a little different in Mexico? That's the reason we go there.

No reason to necesarily call out the federales......

Besides, this shipment has cost me enough already and it hasnt even crossed the border. :fire:

[Edited on 3-1-2005 by Hook]

digital pic

Sharksbaja - 3-1-2005 at 03:52 PM

I actually didn't give it that much thought until I saw the photo enlarged. Usually the best/worst movies are true to life....

Keep us posted...

lindsay - 3-1-2005 at 10:15 PM

As someone who used to live in Mulege and enjoy this beach, please keep us posted!! Your encounter at this spot is unsettling because I can see in my mind you driving down that path to the beach and encountering this guy. It would have shaken me and anyone in his state should not be around a child. At a minimum, when is it ever acceptable to berate someone for coming to a beach. Lashing out at someone to the point of driving them away from the area is something that can not be tolerated. I know the Mulege community would not want this behavior in their backyard even if he is out at a less visited area....as written in another post, a guy with a kayak is mobile so what's next...I hope nothing else.

Anyway, please let us know of any further news. I love that place and my 4 year old has raced down its long shoreline. I support anyone's efforts to ensure it is a place where we all feel welcomed and safe.

Today I will check it out.....

Pompano - 3-2-2005 at 05:59 AM

As I said to Sharksbaja a couple days ago, I will check this beach and area out today on my way to Sta. Rosalia from Coyote Bay.

If I am threatened (or propositioned...I'm kinda boylishly cute, y'know!) by a drunken, kid-hugger in a kayak I will let you know. And if so, rest assured I will post a full frontal pic. :yes:

4baja - 3-2-2005 at 07:17 AM

i've ran into a few people like that on the beaches down there and they believe that nobody should ever drive on the beach or near it. THE MEXICANS USE THESE BEACHES AS ROADS TO MAKE MONEY AND SURVIVE SO GET A GRIP! i would have ran his tent over and told him to stick that kayak were the sun dont shine :fire:

:moon:

Bruce R Leech - 3-2-2005 at 08:26 AM

Sharks I agree the man is a real ass..... but I cant go to the police and turn him in for putting his arm around the little boy they will laugh me out of town I hate child abusers moor than most people my daughter being a victim. but you have taken this act out of context and read in to it things that may or may not be true. I hold my children like that every day . what we need to do is try to get moor info on this man. Maybe pompano will get moor info or I will be going that way next Sunday.

David K - 3-2-2005 at 08:48 AM

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Originally posted by 4baja
i've ran into a few people like that on the beaches down there and they believe that nobody should ever drive on the beach or near it. THE MEXICANS USE THESE BEACHES AS ROADS TO MAKE MONEY AND SURVIVE SO GET A GRIP! i would have ran his tent over and told him to stick that kayak were the sun dont shine :fire:

:moon:

As you can see by the tracks, beach driving between San Felipe and Puertecitos continues as a Baja tradition for over 50 years! :lol:

Photo taken 2-26-05

Dave - 3-2-2005 at 09:01 AM

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Originally posted by Bruce R Leech
I cant go to the police and turn him in for putting his arm around the little boy they will laugh me out of town

Sure you can. A story like that, especially a gringo with his arm around a Mexican boy, will get their attention. Give it a try!

surfer jim - 3-2-2005 at 09:29 AM

This is going to make a great JERRY SPRINGER show.....

wilderone - 3-2-2005 at 09:55 AM

"... acted a little different in Mexico? That's the reason we go there."

No. Speak for yourself.

kayak kreep

Sharksbaja - 3-2-2005 at 12:11 PM

Bruce R. Leech wrote:

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but you have taken this act out of context and read in to it things that may or may not be true

where did I do that?

A gringo

jrbaja - 3-2-2005 at 12:18 PM

telling someone to get off a Mexican beach???? :lol:

That's called a death wish in some circles.
I would like to see some P-nche tell me to get off the beach :lol:

Sharksbaja - 3-2-2005 at 12:26 PM

I was worried all right. Worried I'd leave the guy for d--d if I stuck around......I carry big tools wherever I go!! Fish blood, si. Pince gringo blood, no.

Went to Playa Sta. Inez today...this morning.

Pompano - 3-2-2005 at 03:54 PM

Nada...nobody there. I stopped at the little 'ranchito' or palapa named 'Kevin' and talked to the man there. He said the camping beach had been pretty vacant for many days...only uno o dos personas recently. I did notice that there were 4 people there...all locals, no gringos. One adult male, two teenage boys, and one adult woman...oh, and a cute little terrier-mix pooch. He was friendly as I asked if I could drive on down to the area Sharksbaja descibed and take a look around. Nothing too strange in the atmosphere there.

I drove out onto the beach access from the improved dirt road, but didn't want to risk my heavy truck bogging down in the soft sand...even in 4X4, so I walked up and down the beach for a few hundred yards either way to see what's what. Again, nothing there. Vacant except for lots of tire tracks both directions. Pta. Chivato is an easy kayak paddle away and probably was the origin of your tenting kayaker, Sharks. Other than the palapa people I saw not another living soul or campsite.
I unloaded a full banana clip of 100 rounds of 9mm dum-dums into the bushes just to make sure, though. JUST KIDDING!!

So...that's it, I guess. Nothing now at Playa Sta. Inez.

Pompano you got this guy beat hands down

Tommy A - 3-2-2005 at 05:19 PM

Bruce R Leech - 3-2-2005 at 05:32 PM

thanks for the report Pompano . I think I saw him on a beach south of town. he had his arm around a vary young burro. :lol:

get around nomad

Sharksbaja - 3-2-2005 at 06:20 PM

GOOD JOB POMPANO.... you did a nice thing to go and check it out, thank you! Well, I guess now that half the planet knows about the Kayak Kreep I will rest easier. I know I would go nuts out there at Punta Chivato. Just the truck ride out there kills brain cells.

He sure was lucky....

azusa_bob - 3-3-2005 at 01:24 PM

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Originally posted by Sharksbaja
I was worried all right. Worried I'd leave the guy for d--d if I stuck around......I carry big tools wherever I go!! Fish blood, si. Pince gringo blood, no.

that you ran away with your tail between your legs!! Good thing you didn't bop him with your "big tool"!! Maybe he was just angry of the way that you were oogling his little friend?! :lol:

:moon::moon:

Sharksbaja - 3-3-2005 at 03:27 PM

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Originally posted by azusa_bob

Quote:

Originally posted by Sharksbaja
I was worried all right. Worried I'd leave the guy for d--d if I stuck around......I carry big tools wherever I go!! Fish blood, si. Pince gringo blood, no.

that you ran away with your tail between your legs!! Good thing you didn't bop him with your "big tool"!! Maybe he was just angry of the way that you were oogling his little friend?! :lol: