BajaNomad - BC and BCS COVID-19 Active Cases

I appreciate the effort and initiative that you show in compiling this data, but what sort of confidence do you have in the reporting and testing?

For instance, it shows that Tijuana and Mulege have almost identical numbers, and I seriously doubt that is the case.

Edit; I assume the figures refer to named municipalities, not the individual communities.

[Edited on 6-30-2020 by AKgringo]

Yeah, the absolute values of the numbers are questionable. I'm hoping the method used to arrive at the numbers is constant for each area, and if so the trends that develop will be useful info.

I find web pages that state the number for the day with no time perspective useless. Determining trends in Baja is why I started the spreadsheet.

We'll see what happens from week to week.

[Edited on 7-6-2020 by SFandH]

tiotomasbcs - 7-1-2020 at 09:10 AM

Very Humid over the weekend with the largest crowd of beachgoers I've seen here in Pescadero! Crowds in pm this week. Great place to be except for this COVID thing. I jumped in a few times down away from access & people; put the hose over my head a few times back at home, too. Hard not to ...

[Edited on 7-1-2020 by tiotomasbcs]

BC and BCS COVID-19 Active Cases

SFandH - 7-5-2020 at 12:18 PM

FWIW

BC - http://www.bajacalifornia.gob.mx/coronavirus

BCS - https://coronavirus.bcs.gob.mx/

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TedZark - 7-7-2020 at 08:15 AM

Can you give a reference link?

How is "active cases" defined? New cases, ongoing cases? How are those numbers related to utilization of hospital beds and/or deaths?

Just # of cases is a kind of nebulous.

Better metrics might help us evaluate the situation on the ground better.

Link for Spanish language info is fine.

SFandH - 7-7-2020 at 09:55 AM

Quote: Originally posted by TedZark

Can you give a reference link?

How is "active cases" defined? New cases, ongoing cases? How are those numbers related to utilization of hospital beds and/or deaths?

Just # of cases is a kind of nebulous.

Better metrics might help us evaluate the situation on the ground better.

Link for Spanish language info is fine.

BC - http://www.bajacalifornia.gob.mx/coronavirus

BCS - https://coronavirus.bcs.gob.mx/

I just edited the post with the chart to include the links.

I don't know what they mean by "active cases".

I'm more interested in the trends for each area than I am in individual numbers.

If you can find another data source, I'll include it.

SF and H

John M - 7-7-2020 at 10:00 AM

Good info to follow the trend in cases. Using the same sources at least would seem to give consistent data.

I find this useful. Keep up the updating please.

John M

Bajazly - 7-7-2020 at 11:09 AM

All to be taken with a grain of salt of course. We were talking to a lady at a taco place yesterday and while the map says San Felipe has 122 cases, a friend of hers who works in the government offices in Mexicali told her the real case count in SF is a little north of 500 and the funeral home guy said there were more than 140 death. Seems high but who knows.

SFandH - 7-7-2020 at 01:14 PM

Baja Sur, with one fourth that population reports 898 cases. I think there would be more a lot more news about the south if the infection rate was four times that of the north!

It could be that BCS is counting "active cases" differently than BC. After all, I haven't been able to find a definition for "active cases".

But, I think it is valid to look at each column and see how the numbers are changing for a given location. For example, in the 10 days covered by the data, Cabo has increased from 171 to 253, or, (253 - 171)/171 * 100 = 48%.

Be careful with the small numbers, because, for example, an increase from 2 to 3 is a 50% increase. Sort of meaningless though.

[Edited on 7-7-2020 by SFandH]

BajaNomad - 7-7-2020 at 01:17 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Bajazly

All to be taken with a grain of salt of course.

More like a salt lick! I don't know what metric they use to define "active case", but but with 3.3 million people in Baja Norte, they report 792 total cases.

Baja Sur, with one fourth that population reports 898 cases. I think there would be more a lot more news about the south if the infection rate was four times that of the north!

I believe it's important to remember the greater perspective that while they are releasing the stats they have, that Mexico has been clear in conveying they are *not* widely testing... on purpose.

http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=94512

The Important Number is One.

MrBillM - 7-7-2020 at 05:25 PM

And when that's up, the others don't matter.

SFandH - 7-8-2020 at 08:37 AM

I'm keeping track of "active cases" (see post on 5 July) and have found a definition.

"active cases are those that are two weeks old and can be contagious today. This is known by laboratory tests of people who go to hospitals."

So the numbers I'm using are determined by testing hospital patients for the virus.

https://coronavirus.gob.mx/2020/04/30/conferencia-30-de-abri...

[Edited on 7-8-2020 by SFandH]

ncampion - 7-8-2020 at 10:08 AM

All COVID statistics are highly inaccurate and suspect. Nothing can be rationally deduced from the data, garbage in, garbage out idea. Cases depends totally on testing, deaths are also totally inaccurately reported everywhere in the world. We're all just being played on all this, sorry.

TedZark - 7-8-2020 at 10:15 AM

I tend to agree.

It's most likely we won't REALLY know anything for 2-3 years. By then there will probably be some good analysis of reasonably-well collected data. Most reporting will be spun one way or another. We'll have to pick something in the middle to try to get close to the "truth".

It's really just a crap shoot right now. But that's okay. That's how life works. Learn. Move on.

SFandH - 7-10-2020 at 08:02 AM

BC - http://www.bajacalifornia.gob.mx/coronavirus

BCS - https://coronavirus.bcs.gob.mx/

"active cases are those that are two weeks old and can be contagious today. This is known by laboratory tests of people who go to hospitals."

https://coronavirus.gob.mx/2020/04/30/conferencia-30-de-abri...

So the numbers are determined by testing hospital patients for the virus.

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[Edited on 7-10-2020 by SFandH]

The Covid Crap Shoot

MrBillM - 7-10-2020 at 09:06 AM

As a member of that "especially" vulnerable (aged) group AND a really paranoid personality, I've gone to great lengths to minimize proximity and contact.

BUT ............... Yesterday I drove up to Poppet Flats for a Critter Feed while my Trailer is in storage with my favorite spot occupied. At the last minute, I threw a tent into the trunk with no expectation that the spot would be vacant and the tent needed to reserve the site.

Which was VACANT. They'd left hours earlier. As I struggled solo with the tent and cursed once again that I hadn't bought a smaller one for the purpose, a neighboring camper came over with two of his kids and offered assistance.

SO ............. I'm surrounded (in close proximity) with (3) unmasked younger persons, once of whom was sniffling (hopefully from allergies ?).

Got home. Told the wife that it would be truly ironic if a good deed from some very nice people ended up killing me.

Crap Shoot, indeed.

SFandH - 7-10-2020 at 09:44 AM

Quote: Originally posted by MrBillM

As a member of that "especially" vulnerable (aged) group AND a really paranoid personality, I've gone to great lengths to minimize proximity and contact.

Me too. I stay at home.

I'm wondering if the high, increasing numbers in hot places like La Paz, Mexicali, and Cabo are due in part to buttoned-up, air-conditioned buildings using re-circulated cooled air.

[Edited on 7-10-2020 by SFandH]

surabi - 7-10-2020 at 03:00 PM

Quote: Originally posted by ncampion

All COVID statistics are highly inaccurate and suspect. Nothing can be rationally deduced from the data, garbage in, garbage out idea. Cases depends totally on testing, deaths are also totally inaccurately reported everywhere in the world. We're all just being played on all this, sorry.

We aren't being"played". The data isn't accurate because there is no widespread testing, many are infected but asymptomatic and there is no irrefutable confirmation that patients died of COVID or complications arising from it.
But the scientific and medical community aren't actively trying to bamboozle the public- that's just BS conspiracy theory. They are trying to slow the infection rates and save lives.

pacificobob - 7-11-2020 at 06:54 AM

there is a huge number of reasons why the numbers are highly inaccurate.
lots of leaders have reasons to promote misinformation. not the least and likely the greatest is der gropen fuhrer whose primary strategy is to wish it away.

SFandH - 7-11-2020 at 10:49 AM

BCS staying at level 5 due to the increase in infections and will not continue in the opening of activities.

https://www.bcsnoticias.mx/nuevamente-bcs-tendra-que-esperar...

Alm - 7-11-2020 at 12:50 PM

I'm wondering if the high, increasing numbers in hot places like La Paz, Mexicali, and Cabo are due in part to buttoned-up, air-conditioned buildings using re-circulated cooled air.

The risk of spread is higher indoors. And, generally, in places with higher population density. These towns fit the criteria.

But this definition of active cases is wrong. In Canada (and probably in the US?) active cases = confirmed cases minus recovered minus deceased. Or was it Mex.gob definition?

TedZark - 7-11-2020 at 01:04 PM

Thank you, SF&H for providing these updates. Very helpful.

TMW - 7-11-2020 at 01:51 PM

Quote: Originally posted by pacificobob

there is a huge number of reasons why the numbers are highly inaccurate.
lots of leaders have reasons to promote misinformation. not the least and likely the greatest is der gropen fuhrer whose primary strategy is to wish it away.

The leaders have nothing to do with it other than their opinion. Each state and territory reports to the CDC which puts out the numbers. Everyone that showed signs of COVID19 and died is listed as dying from it. They may have had a heart attack but still listed as dying from COVID19. COVID19 may have played a part in the heart attack who's to know and in any case it doesn't matter. The coroner or medical examiner is not going to do an autopsy on everyone that dies that had COVID19 symptoms .

SFandH - 7-11-2020 at 02:14 PM

I'm wondering if the high, increasing numbers in hot places like La Paz, Mexicali, and Cabo are due in part to buttoned-up, air-conditioned buildings using re-circulated cooled air.

The following definition for active cases comes from the included link.

"active cases are those that are two weeks old and can be contagious today. This is known by laboratory tests of people who go to hospitals."

https://coronavirus.gob.mx/2020/04/30/conferencia-30-de-abri...

Alm - 7-11-2020 at 05:08 PM

In other words, it's a snapshot of daily new cases from the date 2 weeks ago. Since it doesn't say "minimo dos semanas" or "mas de dos semanas". They presume 2 weeks until recovery or death. The real number of active cases on that day could be higher.

Alm - 7-12-2020 at 09:03 AM

Actually, the real number of active cases by their definition will be (at least) 13 times higher. Because if confirmed cases that are exactly 14 days old are active - not recovered and not dead yet - then so are cases that are 1-13 days old. It's nice to see the trend anyway.

[Edited on 7-12-2020 by Alm]

SFandH - 7-12-2020 at 09:20 AM

Actually, the real number of active cases by their definition will be (at least) 13 times higher. Because if confirmed cases that are exactly 14 days old are active - not recovered and not dead yet - then so are cases that are 1-13 days old. It's nice to see the trend anyway.

[Edited on 7-12-2020 by Alm]

And the exact definition could have gotten lost in the translation. I just look at the numbers for a given area. Increasing - bad, decreasing - good.

These are government numbers and it's the government that determines whether places are open or closed. It's a good bet the numbers and trends are a consideration in making these decisions.

pacsur - 7-13-2020 at 02:44 PM

https://themazatlanpost.com/2020/07/13/map-of-coronavirus-in...

Alm - 7-13-2020 at 05:04 PM

And the exact definition could have gotten lost in the translation. I just look at the numbers for a given area.

Suggested definition is clear: "los casos activos son los que tienen dos semanas y hoy pueden ser contagiosos".

Alm - 7-13-2020 at 05:08 PM

None of us really know what we're talking about

Generalization based on self-assessment?

TedZark - 7-14-2020 at 08:11 AM

Generalization based on self-assessment?

With the twist that I know when I don't know.

... except for when you don't know that you don't know. How can you know that?

Alm - 7-14-2020 at 09:46 AM

Was anybody able to open the link for BC http://www.bajacalifornia.gob.mx/coronavirus in the last few days? Neither my Firefox nor MS Edge can't.
BCS link works fine.

SFandH - 7-14-2020 at 09:49 AM

Works for me. I'm using a Chrome browser.

Took Some Time, But ................

MrBillM - 7-14-2020 at 10:08 AM

Opens in Firefox here.

RFClark - 7-14-2020 at 11:25 AM

Works on Safari too! San Felipe no new cases and only one death!

Alm - 7-14-2020 at 06:05 PM

Changed computer - nada. VPN - nada. Another VPN - finally, bajacalifornia.gob.mx opens. BCS link doesn't have these problems. Weird.

When you hover over some city on the interactive map, it shows confirmed, negative and suspected cases but not active. To see active cases for any city, you have to choose the city from dropdown menu and click Filtrar.

Now that new (and active) cases are still coming, I find it easier to use https://coronavirus.gob.mx/datos/. Hover over BCS (for example), it shows the number for July 12 - today is July 14, yeah, well.
Click on BCS to see the curve of total confirmed cases.
Move slider all the way to the left to see the curve since March.
Hover over La Paz to see the number, click to see the curve.
Hover over the dates to see the numbers. From July 11 to 12 there were 6 new confirmed cases in BCS, 3 of them in La Paz.

Bajazly - 7-14-2020 at 09:30 PM

Quote: Originally posted by RFClark

...San Felipe no new cases...

BS squared! Believe what you want.

Quote: Originally posted by RFClark

...and only one death!

I know of 3 or 4 personally and I don't know that many people here yet.

RFClark - 7-14-2020 at 11:27 PM

Argue with the Mexicans! That’s what their website said today.

SFandH - 7-15-2020 at 07:59 AM

BC - http://www.bajacalifornia.gob.mx/coronavirus

BCS - https://coronavirus.bcs.gob.mx/

"active cases are those that are two weeks old and can be contagious today. This is known by laboratory tests of people who go to hospitals."

https://coronavirus.gob.mx/2020/04/30/conferencia-30-de-abri...

So the numbers are determined by testing hospital patients for the virus.

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Bajazly - 7-15-2020 at 09:58 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Bajazly

I know of 3 or 4 personally and I don't know that many people here yet.

What's your theory as to why they aren't getting into that report?

Couldn't tell you for sure but probably because any signs of Cv 19 get shipped to Mexicali and are recorded there. No testing is being done in town here.

A native San Felipian told me the other day there are more than 500 cases in town, probably meaning the serious ones are in Mexicali and the mild ones are here at home, and the coroner told her there have been more than 120 deaths, YMMV.

Many reasons and ways to manipulate numbers.

Alm - 7-15-2020 at 03:37 PM

I don't think they manipulate numbers on purpose. They just don't have enough testing facilities - probably none in SF. And where they do have it, they only test those with symptoms. Large percentage of patients have very mild or no symptoms and spread it around without knowing. I would rather keep an eye on the numbers and trend for the entire BC state. Small towns are not representative and people in this area move around a lot.

SFandH - 7-15-2020 at 04:51 PM

I think the most interesting numbers are for La Paz and Cabo, both have a considerable increase.

Airports.

Didn't they both recently partially open up (hotels, restaurants, beaches) to tourism?

[Edited on 7-15-2020 by SFandH]

chippy - 7-15-2020 at 04:53 PM

I think the most interesting numbers are for La Paz and Cabo, both have a considerable increase.

Airports.

Didn't they both recently partially open up to tourism?

Yep!

SFandH - 7-15-2020 at 06:02 PM

75 cases reported for Tijuana, 681 for La Paz; There is no way that both communities are being counted and reported the same!

I realize that the intent is to indicate trend lines for the different communities, but it is like getting mud from La Paz, and dust from TJ and you need to get the right mix for your Baja adobe.

Edit; By the way, the La Paz airport is not an international airport

[Edited on 7-16-2020 by AKgringo]

Yeah, I dunno. But I do know TJ has been LOCKED down and the usual "walk across for the day tourist" isn't happening. I read today in the TJ online newspaper there's a push to fine anti-maskers 4000 pesos.

Smaller places can have a higher per capita infection rate than larger places.

And, as far as the La Paz airport goes, there are plenty of infected Mexicans that could be flying in from the mainland for their summer vacation.

[Edited on 7-16-2020 by SFandH]

Pacifico - 7-15-2020 at 06:02 PM

Edit; By the way, the La Paz airport is not an international airport

[Edited on 7-16-2020 by AKgringo]

La Paz is no longer an international airport???

Alm - 7-15-2020 at 07:29 PM

But I do know TJ has been LOCKED down and the usual "walk across for the day tourist" isn't happening. I read today in the TJ online newspaper there's a push to fine anti-maskers 4000 pesos.

Doing everything backwards, as usual. Containment should come first.

Until recently they've been keeping ground crossings open for tourists despite the international agreement. Especially Tijuana, with mayor insisting that a "real" closure would've caused long lines and inconvenience for locals. Checkpoints on highways would let you through if the car and driver blend in, looking and talking like local. Airports ship viruses daily, just answer a few questions and go.

gnukid - 7-15-2020 at 07:58 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Pacifico

Edit; By the way, the La Paz airport is not an international airport

[Edited on 7-16-2020 by AKgringo]

La Paz is no longer an international airport???

La Paz is redesignated as an International Airport for 2021. It's in transition now.

Edit will Doug move this to off topic like all other factual info in BN?

[Edited on 7-16-2020 by gnukid]

SFandH - 7-17-2020 at 05:54 PM

BCS headed towards Red Status

It's currently Orange.

https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/baja-california-sur-may-be-...

SFandH - 7-19-2020 at 09:21 AM

The spreadsheet that I have been posting every 5 days or so shows numbers for cities in Baja California and municipalities in BCS, analogous to counties in the US.

For example, Mulege includes Guererro Negro, Santa Rosalia, Heroica Mulege, and the towns in between.

For a breakdown of each BCS municipality, including numbers, see the following page:

https://coronavirus.bcs.gob.mx/casos-covid-19-por-colonia/

There are multiple pages with a page selector on the lower-right

caj13 - 7-19-2020 at 05:16 PM

This ought to make a few of you Baja Residents think twice.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/half-of-virus-patients-...

. This Democratic hoax is getting to be harder and harder to ignore!

seriously, please take this serious! Protect yourselves, and take measures to respect and protect those you come in contact with!

[Edited on 7-20-2020 by caj13]

RFClark - 7-20-2020 at 11:14 AM

The takeaway here is well known to all who have spent much time in Mexico. Have an air evacuation plan in place. Know one of the many good private medical clinics in Mexico and never go willing to a government run hospital!

El Jefe - 7-20-2020 at 11:56 AM

My worker who lives in La Fortuna reports several cases in La Playita just across the bridge from San Jose del Cabo. So it is on the way out the East Cape Road.

It's hot. We are going to button up the house and head north this week. Looking forward to cool low clouds along the coast with highs in the mid 70's.

21 July

SFandH - 7-21-2020 at 11:48 AM

BC - http://www.bajacalifornia.gob.mx/coronavirus

BCS - https://coronavirus.bcs.gob.mx/

"active cases are those that are two weeks old and can be contagious today. This is known by laboratory tests of people who go to hospitals."

https://coronavirus.gob.mx/2020/04/30/conferencia-30-de-abri...

For a breakdown of each BCS municipality, including numbers, see the following page:

https://coronavirus.bcs.gob.mx/casos-covid-19-por-colonia/

[Edited on 7-21-2020 by SFandH]

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Alm - 7-21-2020 at 09:45 PM

Unlikely things will get better in Baja until they do on the mainland and North of the border. Many Mexican tourists in summer, and from what I hear, blockposts don't work. Locals are telling that SF "reten" is only there on weekends and Ensenada lets most people through.

I've been reading how they do it in United Arab Emirates and Bahrain, - amazing. Better than South Korea. In UAE they've tested half of the population and apparently plan to test everybody. In working-class districts and migrant camps government health teams administer mandatory nasal swabs - and then isolate positive cases, this is not up for debate. People with money can book a home visit, results given over the phone same day, though drive-through testing centers are plentiful. To drive from Dubai to the capital Abu Dhabi you must show a fresh negative test. Service workers - cab drivers, waiters, store clerks - are required to take frequent tests.

The result - field hospitals set up months ago for an expected surge of cases stand vacant. Restaurants, movies and resorts are operating almost normally. Test positivity rate dropped to 0.4% - compare to average 2% in Canada, or USA where most states have over 5% positivity and some are over 20%.

The numbers in Mexico - I don't know what to think of it. Their absolute numbers are not for real. When I look at the trend of daily cases since March for the entire BC or BCS, see bar graph under the curve - when you exclude the last 2 weeks where reports are still coming - daily cases are not declining yet: https://coronavirus.gob.mx/datos/

[Edited on 7-22-2020 by Alm]

gnukid - 7-22-2020 at 03:02 AM

I wonder why the admin filters out the factual links to sources provided in this thread? Though leaves conjecture based on no data?

Skipjack Joe - 7-22-2020 at 03:56 AM

Quote: Originally posted by gnukid

I wonder why the admin filters out the factual links to sources provided in this thread? Though leaves conjecture based on no data?

Don't wonder. Just ask.

Alm - 7-22-2020 at 01:29 PM

Just in case if this was a request for "factual links" - enjoy:
Blanket testing and isolation as the way to contain the virus.
An impossible thing to do in Mexico - not enough money. Too bad. Keeping one patient in ICU for 2 weeks costs more than screening a 100 and giving an early treatment to a few. Not to mention the cost of lockdown. So they will end up paying more and it will drag for longer.

Alm - 7-22-2020 at 04:01 PM

[/rquote]Why provide us links which require a subscription?

To give access to those who want to read. Many sources require free subscription, including scientific and medical journals.

Alm - 7-22-2020 at 08:23 PM

Guess I don't "want" to participate in your conversation enough to pay a subscription

You can read this and (probably) some other WSJ articles without subscription if you want to. But if you don't want - then you don't, problem solved

[Edited on 7-23-2020 by Alm]

SFandH - 7-23-2020 at 07:52 AM

Puerto Nuevo is beginning to open up:

https://www.elimparcial.com/tijuana/rosarito/Regresa-poco-a-...

SFandH - 7-24-2020 at 10:11 AM

"Ensenada about to be the new epicenter of the coronavirus"

https://www.elimparcial.com/tijuana/tijuana/Ensenada-a-punto...

There's a flare-up in Ensenada. I bet news like this moves around town to town every several weeks or so as outbreaks come and go.

[Edited on 7-24-2020 by SFandH]

Alm - 7-24-2020 at 01:53 PM

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

There's a flare-up in Ensenada. I bet news like this moves around town to town every several weeks or so as outbreaks come and go.

It spreads in pockets. Local bylaws and variations in weekly number of out-of-towners also affect this.

SFandH - 7-25-2020 at 06:27 PM

More tourist businesses opening up in BCS.

https://www.eluniversal.com.mx/estados/reinician-actividades...

[Edited on 7-26-2020 by SFandH]

27 July

SFandH - 7-27-2020 at 11:13 AM

BC - http://www.bajacalifornia.gob.mx/coronavirus

BCS - https://coronavirus.bcs.gob.mx/

"active cases are those that are two weeks old and can be contagious today. This is known by laboratory tests of people who go to hospitals."

https://coronavirus.gob.mx/2020/04/30/conferencia-30-de-abri...

For a breakdown of each BCS municipality, including numbers, see the following page:

https://coronavirus.bcs.gob.mx/casos-covid-19-por-colonia/

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Alm - 7-27-2020 at 06:53 PM

In a graphic form, if I may. Ensenada. Confirmed cases, not active.
Daily cases are the bar graph under the curve. It "looks" like it's been flattening for the past few weeks. The last 7-10 days should be regarded as understated, due to lag in symptoms->testing->reporting.

Source: https://coronavirus.gob.mx/datos/

2 Aug

SFandH - 8-2-2020 at 11:19 AM

BC - http://www.bajacalifornia.gob.mx/coronavirus

BCS - https://coronavirus.bcs.gob.mx/

"active cases are those that are two weeks old and can be contagious today. This is known by laboratory tests of people who go to hospitals."

https://coronavirus.gob.mx/2020/04/30/conferencia-30-de-abri...

For a breakdown of each BCS municipality, including numbers, see the following page:

https://coronavirus.bcs.gob.mx/casos-covid-19-por-colonia/

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SFandH - 8-2-2020 at 03:52 PM

Some TJ bars are re-opening. The bars will be subject to inspection and staff will be tested for COVID.

https://www.elimparcial.com/tijuana/dinero/Podran-abrir-bare...

BC churches re-opening to 25% capacity.

https://www.elimparcial.com/tijuana/tijuana/Anuncian-reapert...

We'll see what happens to the active cases numbers in the upcoming weeks.

55steve - 8-2-2020 at 11:01 PM

Not Baja, but a very good world overview.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

[Edited on 8-3-2020 by 55steve]

SFandH - 8-3-2020 at 08:47 AM

Quote: Originally posted by 55steve

Great website. It has a ton of different types of data in addition to overwhelming amount being collected about the pandemic. Go to the home page. Interesting stuff.

But, my point with this thread is to collect the data being published by the BC and BCS state governments about infections in different parts of the Baja peninsula.

If anybody has a different source for numbers about the pandemic in Baja, post it. I'll consider adding info to the spreadsheet I'm keeping.

One number all of us retired nomads should keep in mind is that 80% of COVID-19 deaths are in people 65 and older.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/need-extra-precaut...

[Edited on 8-3-2020 by SFandH]

SFandH - 8-4-2020 at 08:18 AM

Parties in Rosarito Beach. People fined for being on the beach.

https://www.elimparcial.com/tijuana/rosarito/Se-disparan-fie...

During the weekend a restaurant was closed in Tijuana for holding parties with more than 15 people.....fine of between 100 and 200 thousand pesos.

https://www.elimparcial.com/tijuana/tijuana/Clausuran-restau...

[Edited on 8-4-2020 by SFandH]

BajaMama - 8-4-2020 at 03:33 PM

You can read this and (probably) some other WSJ articles without subscription if you want to.

Maybe so, but I have no idea how to do that. I saw no option to do so when I browsed around.

The link you provided, demanded that I log in or subscribe in order to show me the article.

I have the same problem with the WSJ and the Washington Post. Others too. I subscribe to the NYTimes. Like you, I get frustrated when I would like to read a linked article but no access.

pacificobob - 8-4-2020 at 04:43 PM

Quote: Originally posted by 55steve

Not Baja, but a very good world overview.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

[Edited on 8-3-2020 by 55steve]

good link ,thanks. but the numbers must be inaccurate, der gropen fuhrer states different numbers.

gnukid - 8-6-2020 at 09:21 AM

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Quote: Originally posted by 55steve

If the data is admittedly invalid, error prone, no isolation of a unique virus through quantified or qualified lab test with demonstrated accuracy, then what is the purpose of promotion of the numbers? Error prone data sets can only skew perspectives and lead to poor decision making.

TedZark - 8-6-2020 at 10:15 AM

It's not a binary choice. To make all decisions based on flawed (but the only available) data. OR do nothing.

People have to make the best decisions they can based on the scant evidence they can find, and understand.

“You go to war with the army you have, not the army you might want or wish to have at a later time.” ― Donald Rumsfeld.

pacificobob - 8-6-2020 at 10:20 AM

"it is what it is" ........"it will go away like magic" AYSM?

gnukid - 8-6-2020 at 03:18 PM

If we can permanently quarantine the seniors most at risk, especially stubborn octagenarian Nomads, then we can ensure their safety, oftentimes, seniors may not be taking precautionary security seriously, so, we may need to increase restrictions just to those seniors, more so, to ensure their safety and ours.

On a more SERIOUS note .............

MrBillM - 8-6-2020 at 03:25 PM

Does anybody know why there's a sudden shortage of BIRDSEED ?

John Harper - 8-6-2020 at 03:39 PM

Quote: Originally posted by MrBillM

Does anybody know why there's a sudden shortage of BIRDSEED ?

Damn, my neighbor just put a big bag of it out in the trash, but someone already took it. I would have grabbed it for you, at least a 20 pound bag.

I'm wondering why lemon juice and Worchestershire sauce has been so scarce, there's plenty of vodka and tomato juice to be had.

John

nbentley1 - 8-6-2020 at 04:01 PM

Ponzu sauce as well, but that might be down to good bluefin fishing.

SFandH - 8-9-2020 at 12:08 PM

9 Aug

BC - http://www.bajacalifornia.gob.mx/coronavirus

BCS - https://coronavirus.bcs.gob.mx/casos-covid-19/

"active cases are those that are two weeks old and can be contagious today. This is known by laboratory tests of people who go to hospitals."

https://coronavirus.gob.mx/2020/04/30/conferencia-30-de-abri...

For a breakdown of each BCS municipality, including numbers, see the following page:

https://coronavirus.bcs.gob.mx/casos-covid-19-por-colonia/

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[Edited on 8-10-2020 by SFandH]

del mar - 8-10-2020 at 11:17 AM

a serious distrust of hospitals!

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/10/world/americas/mexico-cor...

Lee - 8-10-2020 at 02:28 PM

This in yesterdays Baja Onion -- Pescadero/Todos Santos spiking.

https://www.padrinocf.org/news/urgent-covid-19-case1Z5X35150...

SFandH - 8-10-2020 at 05:49 PM

"6 states see consistent decline in coronavirus case numbers"

BC is one of them.

https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/coronavirus/6-states-see-co...

LancairDriver - 8-12-2020 at 12:54 PM

Russia has completed worlds first successful testing of a vaccine for COVID 19 virus.They have formally released the vaccine for use in Russia indicating their confidence in the product. The WHO is now evaluating the vaccine. Hopefully this will prove to be an affordable solution for the world. As of now big pharma in the US is being granted billions to develop a vaccine so expect the coming condemnation of Russia for “inadequate testing” false claims, bla,bla,bla. There is far to much big pharma advertising dollars to the US media to mention a vaccination breakthrough by anyone outside the system. The US just granted several billion dollars to Johnson & Johnson to develop a vaccine. Just imagine how much your shot will eventually cost. I have heard the government will spring for everyone’s shot. We will see how things work out on this front. As usual, follow the money.

chippy - 8-12-2020 at 04:18 PM

Russia has completed worlds first successful testing of a vaccine for COVID 19 virus.They have formally released the vaccine for use in Russia indicating their confidence in the product. The WHO is now evaluating the vaccine. Hopefully this will prove to be an affordable solution for the world. As of now big pharma in the US is being granted billions to develop a vaccine so expect the coming condemnation of Russia for “inadequate testing” false claims, bla,bla,bla. There is far to much big pharma advertising dollars to the US media to mention a vaccination breakthrough by anyone outside the system. The US just granted several billion dollars to Johnson & Johnson to develop a vaccine. Just imagine how much your shot will eventually cost. I have heard the government will spring for everyone’s shot. We will see how things work out on this front. As usual, follow the money.

Well then, I guess a move to USSR is in your future? :rolleyes:

mtgoat666 - 8-12-2020 at 04:50 PM

I dont trust russians.. From what i read, the russians approved the drug, but they have only begun their phase 3 trials,... sounds like premature launch.
i will wait for a vaccine approved with sound science,

LancairDriver - 8-12-2020 at 07:09 PM

Well then, I guess a move to USSR is in your future? :rolleyes:

Sorry dude, time to wake up. Your hopelessly behind the times. The USSR hasn’t existed for 39 years.

Don Pisto - 8-12-2020 at 07:38 PM

Well then, I guess a move to USSR is in your future? :rolleyes:

Sorry dude, time to wake up. Your hopelessly behind the times. The USSR hasn’t existed for 39 years.

nicely played :yes:

mtgoat666 - 8-12-2020 at 07:38 PM

Well then, I guess a move to USSR is in your future? :rolleyes:

Sorry dude, time to wake up. Your hopelessly behind the times. The USSR hasn’t existed for 39 years.

Thugs speaking Russian. Same thing, no matter what you call it.

Can’t understand why trump is so enamored with Putin and his thug regime. Pee tapes? Blackmail?

Skipjack Joe - 8-15-2020 at 09:41 PM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666