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[*] posted on 6-30-2020 at 09:50 AM
BC and BCS COVID-19 Active Cases


I've started keeping a spreadsheet. I think it is self-explanatory.





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[*] posted on 6-30-2020 at 12:20 PM


Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo  
I appreciate the effort and initiative that you show in compiling this data, but what sort of confidence do you have in the reporting and testing?

For instance, it shows that Tijuana and Mulege have almost identical numbers, and I seriously doubt that is the case.

Edit; I assume the figures refer to named municipalities, not the individual communities.

[Edited on 6-30-2020 by AKgringo]


Yeah, the absolute values of the numbers are questionable. I'm hoping the method used to arrive at the numbers is constant for each area, and if so the trends that develop will be useful info.

I find web pages that state the number for the day with no time perspective useless. Determining trends in Baja is why I started the spreadsheet.

We'll see what happens from week to week.



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Very Humid over the weekend with the largest crowd of beachgoers I've seen here in Pescadero! Crowds in pm this week. Great place to be except for this COVID thing. I jumped in a few times down away from access & people; put the hose over my head a few times back at home, too. Hard not to ...

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[*] posted on 7-5-2020 at 12:18 PM
BC and BCS COVID-19 Active Cases


FWIW

BC - http://www.bajacalifornia.gob.mx/coronavirus

BCS - https://coronavirus.bcs.gob.mx/

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[*] posted on 7-7-2020 at 08:15 AM


Can you give a reference link?

How is "active cases" defined? New cases, ongoing cases? How are those numbers related to utilization of hospital beds and/or deaths?

Just # of cases is a kind of nebulous.

Better metrics might help us evaluate the situation on the ground better.

Link for Spanish language info is fine.




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[*] posted on 7-7-2020 at 09:55 AM


Quote: Originally posted by TedZark  
Can you give a reference link?

How is "active cases" defined? New cases, ongoing cases? How are those numbers related to utilization of hospital beds and/or deaths?

Just # of cases is a kind of nebulous.

Better metrics might help us evaluate the situation on the ground better.

Link for Spanish language info is fine.


BC - http://www.bajacalifornia.gob.mx/coronavirus

BCS - https://coronavirus.bcs.gob.mx/

I just edited the post with the chart to include the links.

I don't know what they mean by "active cases".

I'm more interested in the trends for each area than I am in individual numbers.

If you can find another data source, I'll include it.




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[*] posted on 7-7-2020 at 10:00 AM
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Good info to follow the trend in cases. Using the same sources at least would seem to give consistent data.

I find this useful. Keep up the updating please.

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[*] posted on 7-7-2020 at 11:09 AM


All to be taken with a grain of salt of course. We were talking to a lady at a taco place yesterday and while the map says San Felipe has 122 cases, a friend of hers who works in the government offices in Mexicali told her the real case count in SF is a little north of 500 and the funeral home guy said there were more than 140 death. Seems high but who knows.



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[*] posted on 7-7-2020 at 01:14 PM


Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo  


Baja Sur, with one fourth that population reports 898 cases. I think there would be more a lot more news about the south if the infection rate was four times that of the north!


It could be that BCS is counting "active cases" differently than BC. After all, I haven't been able to find a definition for "active cases".

But, I think it is valid to look at each column and see how the numbers are changing for a given location. For example, in the 10 days covered by the data, Cabo has increased from 171 to 253, or, (253 - 171)/171 * 100 = 48%.

Be careful with the small numbers, because, for example, an increase from 2 to 3 is a 50% increase. Sort of meaningless though.


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[*] posted on 7-7-2020 at 01:17 PM


Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo  
Quote: Originally posted by Bajazly  
All to be taken with a grain of salt of course.


More like a salt lick! I don't know what metric they use to define "active case", but but with 3.3 million people in Baja Norte, they report 792 total cases.

Baja Sur, with one fourth that population reports 898 cases. I think there would be more a lot more news about the south if the infection rate was four times that of the north!


I believe it's important to remember the greater perspective that while they are releasing the stats they have, that Mexico has been clear in conveying they are *not* widely testing... on purpose.

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[*] posted on 7-7-2020 at 05:25 PM
The Important Number is One.


And when that's up, the others don't matter.
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[*] posted on 7-8-2020 at 08:37 AM


I'm keeping track of "active cases" (see post on 5 July) and have found a definition.

"active cases are those that are two weeks old and can be contagious today. This is known by laboratory tests of people who go to hospitals."

So the numbers I'm using are determined by testing hospital patients for the virus.

https://coronavirus.gob.mx/2020/04/30/conferencia-30-de-abri...


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[*] posted on 7-8-2020 at 10:08 AM


All COVID statistics are highly inaccurate and suspect. Nothing can be rationally deduced from the data, garbage in, garbage out idea. Cases depends totally on testing, deaths are also totally inaccurately reported everywhere in the world. We're all just being played on all this, sorry.



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[*] posted on 7-8-2020 at 10:15 AM


I tend to agree.

It's most likely we won't REALLY know anything for 2-3 years. By then there will probably be some good analysis of reasonably-well collected data. Most reporting will be spun one way or another. We'll have to pick something in the middle to try to get close to the "truth".

It's really just a crap shoot right now. But that's okay. That's how life works. Learn. Move on.




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[*] posted on 7-10-2020 at 08:02 AM


BC - http://www.bajacalifornia.gob.mx/coronavirus

BCS - https://coronavirus.bcs.gob.mx/

"active cases are those that are two weeks old and can be contagious today. This is known by laboratory tests of people who go to hospitals."

https://coronavirus.gob.mx/2020/04/30/conferencia-30-de-abri...

So the numbers are determined by testing hospital patients for the virus.


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[*] posted on 7-10-2020 at 09:06 AM
The Covid Crap Shoot


As a member of that "especially" vulnerable (aged) group AND a really paranoid personality, I've gone to great lengths to minimize proximity and contact.

BUT ............... Yesterday I drove up to Poppet Flats for a Critter Feed while my Trailer is in storage with my favorite spot occupied. At the last minute, I threw a tent into the trunk with no expectation that the spot would be vacant and the tent needed to reserve the site.

Which was VACANT. They'd left hours earlier. As I struggled solo with the tent and cursed once again that I hadn't bought a smaller one for the purpose, a neighboring camper came over with two of his kids and offered assistance.

SO ............. I'm surrounded (in close proximity) with (3) unmasked younger persons, once of whom was sniffling (hopefully from allergies ?).

Got home. Told the wife that it would be truly ironic if a good deed from some very nice people ended up killing me.

Crap Shoot, indeed.
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[*] posted on 7-10-2020 at 09:44 AM


Quote: Originally posted by MrBillM  
As a member of that "especially" vulnerable (aged) group AND a really paranoid personality, I've gone to great lengths to minimize proximity and contact.



Me too. I stay at home.

I'm wondering if the high, increasing numbers in hot places like La Paz, Mexicali, and Cabo are due in part to buttoned-up, air-conditioned buildings using re-circulated cooled air.

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[*] posted on 7-10-2020 at 03:00 PM


Quote: Originally posted by ncampion  
All COVID statistics are highly inaccurate and suspect. Nothing can be rationally deduced from the data, garbage in, garbage out idea. Cases depends totally on testing, deaths are also totally inaccurately reported everywhere in the world. We're all just being played on all this, sorry.


We aren't being"played". The data isn't accurate because there is no widespread testing, many are infected but asymptomatic and there is no irrefutable confirmation that patients died of COVID or complications arising from it.
But the scientific and medical community aren't actively trying to bamboozle the public- that's just BS conspiracy theory. They are trying to slow the infection rates and save lives.
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[*] posted on 7-11-2020 at 06:54 AM


there is a huge number of reasons why the numbers are highly inaccurate.
lots of leaders have reasons to promote misinformation. not the least and likely the greatest is der gropen fuhrer whose primary strategy is to wish it away.
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[*] posted on 7-11-2020 at 10:49 AM


BCS staying at level 5 due to the increase in infections and will not continue in the opening of activities.

https://www.bcsnoticias.mx/nuevamente-bcs-tendra-que-esperar...





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