BajaNomad - Need feedback from local Baja nomads on virus conditions

Need feedback from local Baja nomads on virus conditions

Lee - 11-1-2020 at 02:55 PM

Things are looking dire NOB and anticipate more lockdowns coming as things spike.

Please check in with what you see SOB?

Hook - 11-1-2020 at 04:02 PM

Many states in Mexico "reporting" new spikes in infection numbers.

I am watching the state of Sonora closely. As they cannot increase their color coding (only the Federal govt can do that), they decided to implement more restrictions on business operations and social gatherings as of Nov. 2. They are currently yellow. With the added restrictions, call it yellow+.

The state Sonoran Health Council also laid out plans in case the Feds decide to put them into orange category instead. Which is possible, as Sonora has been orange in the past.

Orange would cease most all recreational gatherings, close most all businesses on weekends and force restaurants to go back to take out only.

[Edited on 11-1-2020 by Hook]

tiotomasbcs - 11-1-2020 at 04:03 PM

South Swell coming....can you bring some wax! It's essential?! Seriously... most locals and gringos are wearing masks and following guidelines. A few restaurants are open and I'm sure La Morena and others are enforcing standards like distancing and 30-40 % capacity. I don't stay out late as you could guess, Amigo. Events are being canceled...No Dia de los Muertos Festival or 5K Run a few. No Carnival boats dumping tourists in TS altho we have some visitors with & w/o masks. I have heard of locals getting sick but no gringos in our Pescadero area. Hasta luego. Tio

[Edited on 11-1-2020 by tiotomasbcs]

[Edited on 11-2-2020 by tiotomasbcs]

Don Pisto - 11-1-2020 at 04:46 PM

Ave Revolucion last night

JZ - 11-1-2020 at 05:08 PM

Listen to the science. The WHO tells you that lock downs aren't the answer.

SOB - our experience

John M - 11-1-2020 at 08:35 PM

Be smart, be careful, have fun - Stay out of crowded places

We had absolutely no issues wandering Baja for 25 days -

We had gotten a COVID test just before leaving - negative
We got a COVID test several days after returning - negative

Most places of business require masks and a shoe wash of some sort.

Relaxing, fun, as usual.

John M

BajaBlanca - 11-1-2020 at 10:04 PM

In La Bocana, a village in the middle of Baja - on the Pacific Ocean, we have no cases so far.

The big stores require masks.
Children under 12 not allowed to enter.
Gel available as soon as you enter.
Our beach restaurant has gel, the foot splash and then now they wash down each table with a bleach solution, and masks are required.

The cemetary will not be open to the public tomorrow and mass will be celebrated, as it has been for a while now, in the middle of the desert with all of us in our cars.

Schools are not having classes - everything is done via whatsapp.

If anyone gets sick, they stay home until they can prove they tested positive.

Alm - 11-1-2020 at 10:21 PM

Wearing a mask is not "relaxing as usual", let's not fool ourselves.

Shoe wash is an idiocy.

As to the lockdowns - they work, but I don't think there were real lockdowns anywhere other than China - or that there will be. Everything was closed, only some grocery stores stayed open. People were not allowed to leave home other than 1 (one) member of household a few times a week to buy groceries. Enforcement was consistent.

gnukid - 11-2-2020 at 02:13 AM

Lockdows, restrictions, facemasks, hand cleanser etc can do one thing, DELAY the inevitable bio-diversity social engagement with others, there is no end game other than mind your personal health, get rest, exercise, eat a healthy diet. You can not live in a bubble, isolated, distancing from the world.

Macro numbers of flu-like infections and overall illness and death is the same numbers average year to year, CV is a flu, there is no epidemic or pandemic, there is mass promoted fear and idiocy to gain control and cause harm, while no increase in health services has been made to infrastructure, support services, dispensing aid in the form of food, medicines, or money to poor people in Mexico, so people are suffering due to poor economy, lack of basic food, light, clean water. Seniors especially, but everyone with medical issues are suffering, alone and in fear without adequate support.

Imagine you have a medical issue, the first step is you are separated, your family cannot even enter the hospital, often times families have fewer resources and in Mexico all services cost money on the spot, you pay to fly in specialists, you pay for medicines, food, you must find your own blood donors. except that now you are "required" to be isolated and alone with no visitors. It's quite a mess and it has more to do with poorly managed health care procedures and services, lack of support than due to an increase of a unique illness. Worse thing that can happen is allow isolation and intubation which leads to death 60%-80% of the time and is extremely harmful, while oxygen mask may be a better solution, really you need hot soups, hot fluids, cough syrup, decongestion, open up breathing and don't allow yourself to be alone.

There will always be those in poor health unable to fight off colds and flus, some die every year, generally associated to long term illness, obesity, cardiovascular and pulmonary illness.

Today, Go Out, enjoy sunshine, fresh air, hot soup, tea with lemon and local honey, ensure you are getting your 90 essential vitamins, amino acids and minerals, get some exercise, eat healthy fruits and vegetables and cut back on fatty foods and sugar, alcohol and smoking and mind your health.

Isolation is the leading cause of poor health, illness and early death.

[Edited on 11-2-2020 by gnukid]

BajaNomad - 11-2-2020 at 03:43 AM

Quote: Originally posted by gnukid

CV is a flu

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/symptoms/flu-vs-covid19.htm
https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseas...
https://www.scripps.org/news_items/7052-flu-vs-coronavirus-w...

gnukid - 11-2-2020 at 02:45 PM

Quote: Originally posted by BajaNomad

Quote: Originally posted by gnukid

CV is a flu

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/symptoms/flu-vs-covid19.htm
https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseas...
https://www.scripps.org/news_items/7052-flu-vs-coronavirus-w...

There has always been influenza, corona viruses, many types, mutations, varieties, now we know a little more about those variations. Nothing new, nothing different, you can not isolate to be healthy, health is about engagement, diet, exercise, sunshine, fresh air, if you isolate and delay social contact you are harming yourself and you gain nothing.

Why do we not have investment in health infrastructure, outreach to those at risk, improved health education about diet, exercise, sunshine and fresh air and the value of each vitamin, mineral and amino acid to health? Yet the only message is isolation? Wrong!

[Edited on 11-2-2020 by gnukid]

shari - 11-2-2020 at 04:47 PM

The scene in Bahia Asuncion is the same as La Bocana....no cases here, wear a mask in stores, gel & wash hands but everything is open and we are busy with happy fishers.

BajaParrothead - 11-2-2020 at 05:15 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Lee

Things are looking dire NOB and anticipate more lockdowns coming as things spike.

Please check in with what you see SOB?

Here is from Wednesday's BPE post:

medium Cool - 11-2-2020 at 09:47 PM

Spent a few weeks the end of Sept and the beginning of Oct., started out in the Mulege area and enjoyed the peace and quiet of old Baja, reminded me of a few trips we had 25 yrs ago or so.
The resturants were hurting (according to the locals) but we had company at a few table every time we ventured out, of coarse thier were the typical precautions, hand washing, the foot gel, etc. Most any popular beach had signs saying they were closed, but there were sprinklings of people out and about, even some camping, but no huge crowds or no one that I saw enforcing any closures.
We also made a trip to La Bocana and had a rather epic fishing trip and some great hospitality at Blanca's. La Bocana also had the typical protocols in place, but otherwise seemed pretty normal, no one seemed to overly excited after 7 months of extra scubbing and washing.
On the way back, Ensenada was about as jammed packed as ever, with mostly locals. Didn't see a bunch of people wearing masks, but typical protocol seemed to be attempted.
Bottom line, if your scared, don't go. if you go, enjoy yourself and be smart. The folks in Baja need the visitors, but, gotta say we kinda enjoyed a lower profile trip

pacificobob - 11-3-2020 at 07:15 AM

lots of cases in todos and pesky....a few seasonal gringos trickling in.

bajafreaks - 11-3-2020 at 03:05 PM

We went to our place in Los Barriles last month for 12 days and the feeling I got was Baja in general is taking this virus a little more seriously than the US.

John Harper - 11-3-2020 at 03:14 PM

Quote: Originally posted by bajafreaks

We went to our place in Los Barriles last month for 12 days and the feeling I got was Baja in general is taking this virus a little more seriously than the US.

A sense of community responsibility still exists in Mexico, not so much in the USA it seems.

John

JZ - 11-3-2020 at 03:22 PM

Quote: Originally posted by John Harper

A sense of community responsibility still exists in Mexico, not so much in the USA it seems.

John

Uninformed comment made from the basement watching cable news reporting on the outliers. How many states/cities have you traveled to. Ppl are taking it serious all over the US. Florida was very cautious when we visited in August.

Lee - 11-3-2020 at 03:30 PM

Quote: Originally posted by JZ

Quote: Originally posted by John Harper

A sense of community responsibility still exists in Mexico, not so much in the USA it seems.

John

Looked like John was comparing MX to the US. JZ are you writing that, in your travels, you think the US takes the virus as seriously as Baja?

I think there are regional pockets in the US who are divided on what represents seriousness. Presidential rallies, for example, college kids partying, etc.

Overall, I think, yes, the virus is being taken seriously by everyone.

Pete69 - 11-3-2020 at 04:45 PM

Just spent a month at our house in Punta Final and there is no precautions taking place except for the homeowners. In the campground it's buttcrack to elbow, tent to tent. 40 to 50 cars etc. every weekend, it looks like spring break every Friday to Monday. No masks, no social distancing, disgusting outhouses that the campers share with everyone every weekend that never get cleaned, or disinfected. If you want to try to get covid, it's the place to be.

AKgringo - 11-5-2020 at 07:44 PM

I have only been in La Paz a week and a half, and my perspective is very limited. I have no intention of going down town, the Malecon, or any other attractions, but in the limited venue I am taking part in, I have noticed a few things.

While the sanitation and distancing is more widely practiced than I expected, it is not universal.

It is a bit harder to find an isolated beach to visit, since a lot of locals are doing that as well.

In the first 12 hours here, I had two encounters with the police (one federal, one municipal) and neither would come within ten feet of the drivers window.
They asked a few questions, did not want to handle my license or papers, and sent me on my way.

I am not following local news, but I asked my dentist today if she thought the infections are trending up, or down. She said it is going up, and coached me a bit about caution and protection.

mtgoat666 - 11-5-2020 at 08:17 PM

Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo

I have only been in La Paz a week and a half, and my perspective is very limited. I have no intention of going down town, the Malecon, or any other attractions, but in the limited venue I am taking part in, I have noticed a few things.

While the sanitation and distancing is more widely practiced than I expected, it is not universal.

It is a bit harder to find an isolated beach to visit, since a lot of locals are doing that as well.

In the first 12 hours here, I had two encounters with the police (one federal, one municipal) and neither would come within ten feet of the drivers window.
They asked a few questions, did not want to handle my license or papers, and sent me on my way.

I am not following local news, but I asked my dentist today if she thought the infections are trending up, or down. She said it is going up, and coached me a bit about caution and protection.

Pandemic is spiking all over USA and Europe, where there are reliable public health stats. Would expect the same spike to be occurring in Mexico, particularly as Mexico followed trumps lead and is managing the pandemic by saying “it is what it is” and doing little to nothing while waiting for a magic bullet (vaccine) :no:

4x4abc - 11-6-2020 at 01:11 PM

here are the numbers in detail - broken down into the smallest communities (La Bocana has one)
La Paz has the highest death rate on the planet - 1003 per million
https://coronavirus.bcs.gob.mx/casos-covid-19/

mtgoat666 - 11-6-2020 at 01:30 PM

Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc

La Paz has the highest death rate on the planet

yikes!

I see that mexico in world-wide rankings is:
#10 in deaths per 100K population for covid (usa is #13)

on the brighter side, things are looking up in usa, as trump is on his way out, and biden is on his way in -- usa will soon stop playing politics with covid response, and take a science-based approach (and wear the flocking mask!) :bounce:

hopefully, when usa starts acting properly in response to covd, mexico will follow too :light:

RFClark - 11-7-2020 at 04:10 AM

We’re currently in Todos Santos. The town is full of tourists! Came through La Paz earlier Friday. Most people are wearing masks. No sanitary checks between the U.S. border and Todos Santos. The general lack of regard for cleanness in Mexico seems to be changing for the better. As to the widely used {in Baja) shoe disinfectant mats, the Japanese and others long ago released that foot coverings can bring things into your home that you might not wish to be there. Clean rooms have used tack Mats for generations. The market in San Felipe now scans your temperature, requires a mask, cleans your hands and disinfects the bottoms of your shoes. Since SF has no hospital of note, prevention seems a reasonable idea. These policies work for a variety of other diseases like hepatitis which are widespread in Mexico!

I’ll post a driving report later today, but San Felipe to Todos Santos was an easy drive with one overnight stop. For those worried about tourists being sent back or burned alive by locals with torches and pitchforks, not so much!

Baja Sur is a great place to spend the next few years in exile! Come on down and wait out the Potemkin Presidency in style! The beer is cold and the air is still warm!

Oldbajabilly - 11-7-2020 at 04:58 AM

We came up to scorpion bay , San Juanico, to catch the late season swell. Wow, it is wall to wall people, from So Cal, NorCal, Mexico,Argentina, and more. Few if any masks being worn, no requirement for masks in stores, no temp checks; sure a lot different here vs. Cabo. The public restrooms at the point had 5 people in them, no precaution, there was poop tp laying in the open basket ( feces is a huge coronavirus host, as well as other chit)
Guess there are no cases here, but if I were a betting man I say get readySan juanico

gnukid - 11-7-2020 at 07:42 AM

Things are great in BCS, fresh food, great weather for sailing and no politics, but we do have restrictions, unfortunately, there is a tendency to put people in charge of entering business who are over do it, seniors over 60 are often turned away from stores, families and couples may not enter together, no children, etc. but, beaches and outdoor dining remains open at limited capacity.

This week temperatures are dropping into the 60s at night and 70s Ito low 80's in the day.

pacificobob - 11-7-2020 at 08:08 AM

hey kid, have you entertained the notion that your denial of entry to certain stores might have nothing to do with your age? perhaps they just think of you as an undesirable.

[Edited on 11-7-2020 by pacificobob]

gnukid - 11-7-2020 at 09:37 AM

Quote: Originally posted by pacificobob

hey kid, have you entertained the notion that your denial of entry to certain stores might have nothing to do with your age? perhaps they just think of you as an undesirable.

[Edited on 11-7-2020 by pacificobob]

It has been a grand tradition here on Baja Nomads for seniors to be acerbic, obnoxious, insulting and irrational. I applaud your attempt to continue in the tradition of Bill, Goat, Hook et all.

I also respect general CV safety requirements, my comment about denial of access is directed at SENIOR BAJA NOMADS 60+, who may be surprised by attempts of denial of entry to some stores like OXXO, grocery stores, Home Depot, though these issues are largely caused by overly aggressive temporary security attempting to enforce their perception of COVID restrictions.

Plan ahead, walk in separately if going with family of friends. Kids and pregnant women are genially not allowed in big box stores. Women who appear larger are questioned if they are pregnant?

Each week there are also reports of business being fined high penalties such as 300,000 pesos for covid restriction violations and subsequent closure. Such as exceeding 30-40% capacity, or workers failing to wear masks. 3 out 10 restaurants have closed reportedly in BCS..

Pueblos are more pleasant than cities like La Paz due to restrictions. Malecon La Paz is closed in early evening on Friday, Saturday Sunday and often times Malecon beach access is closed temporarily with yellow ribbon only to be opened later. There are random police acting aggressively making requests to passerby to maintain distance etc. There are also many reported denuncias against aggressive behavior by police and door security, for example Autozone had some thugs threatening seniors, grabbing them and pushing them, your milege may vary.

Generally, it seems, seniors are being picked on a bit, unreasonably. It's possible to ignore aggressive questioning about your age security and enter as normal and not engage.

[Edited on 11-7-2020 by gnukid]

Beyond Tradition

MrBillM - 11-7-2020 at 10:03 AM

Call me exceptional !

While I might be included among those who are consistently acerbic in their contributions and assessments, I would point out that MY attitude and expressions are NOT a result of age.

I have been described as a "sarcastic, obnoxious, anti-social S.O.B." since (at least) my teen years.

pacificobob - 11-7-2020 at 10:04 AM

i know a ton of seniors...this is the first i have heard of such.......are you SURE its not just you?

Lee - 11-7-2020 at 11:05 AM

I'm age related high risk and accept that. Don't think about it much and it doesn't drive my lifestyle or behavior.

That said, few years ago, I got pneumonia while in Pescadero. Started as bronchitis and a month later, I was at the hospital every day to get a shot and monitored.

While many say come on down, waters fine, beer is cold, there are reports about curfews and precautions taking place that, to me, is a warning. Things are borderline and CV can go either way.

If I had to get treated for CV, Baja is not the place where I want to be. Doubt I could be treated effectively and doubt I could make it NOB. Guess I could die anywhere but Baja is not my first choice.

I think the next few months will show where things are going and, honestly, from what I see and read about NOB, it's not looking good. CV has been politicized, unfortunately, with those thinking it's a government conspiracy or the virus just isn't happening. What a country.

gnukid - 11-7-2020 at 12:04 PM

Quote: Originally posted by pacificobob

i know a ton of seniors...this is the first i have heard of such.......are you SURE its not just you?

Some people don't get out much.

Some stores don't let anyone at all enter, you need to know what you want, wait in line outside in the sun 6 feet apart, state what you want and pay with exact change.

What's worse are places like Telcel, who want you to stand in a circle 6 feet away or they won't help you, the person is behind plastic, you can't hear them and they can't hear you?

The other day I went to Santender on Abasolo in La Paz, there was a long line out the door, a security let people enter one by on etc use the ATM and it was eating each persons card. He said nothing? No bank agent would come outside to explain that the machine was malfunctioning. What a mess. I didn't figure it out either until too late. Machine was supposedly destroying the cards. New card arrives a week later.

Lots of nonsense like this, stay vigilant, there's been an increase in robberies by a fair amount, guys on motor robbing people, lots of people out of work, everyone is stressed and in need of help. Stay safe.

example of recent robberies

https://noticiaslapaz.news/2020/11/06/asaltan-a-extranjera-a...

[Edited on 11-7-2020 by gnukid]

gnukid - 11-9-2020 at 07:50 AM

Quote:

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*****************************, seniors have limited access to stores practically globally, for some reason the theory is that seniors need to be protected from others? Not sure what the theory is. In California in the SF Bay many stores have similar policies, but, seniors make online shopping lists in their cart and the items come to the house. Same in La Paz, it's possible to order online from Homedepot, etc. many restaurants have curbside pickup and delivery to house. In some countries, such as Great Britain, Wales, Australia is a policy that seniors may not leave more than a few km for nonessential travel, such as food, since deliveries exist.

My mother has not gone to the store in 8 months.

Back a few months ago, when the restrictions where crazy, with police and military blocking roads, I always carried a box of veggies at my side wherever I went to pass through the filters.

I'm trying to be helpful so there are no surprises, if anyone is needing delivery and can't find what they need, perhaps they can ask here and we can share resources. There are deliveries up and down Baja now.

Personally, I find it is nice to live in a quiet pueblo in Baja and have what you want delivered, reliably. And to be more reliant on local produce, grow your own, share, barter and trade.

That said, we have no confidence in COVID vaccines that are fast tracked without adequate development and testing. We have seen kids drop to the ground having been injected with HPV vaccine Gardisil and become severely ill from Flu vaccines.

It seems that in big cities there is less of ability to see connection between faulty vaccines and injuries, due to so much noise, and interaction. Where as, in a pueblo, it's far more obvious, to see results from vaccines and sudden illness and death.

Interesting times ahead!

[Edited on 11-9-2020 by gnukid]

[Edited on 11-9-2020 by BajaNomad]

gnukid - 11-9-2020 at 09:49 AM

Anyone can go to CDC VAERS Vaccine Adverse Effects Reporting System and look up the data, noting, nearly 200,000 injuries from common Influenza Vaccine each year in the USA. Anyone can search Flu Vaccine Injury Lawsuit and see the lists of adjucacted cases yearly.

These reports do not include the number of injuries from the aggressive shot itself which causes many thousands of arm injuries, including permanent injury each year.

Gardasil HPV vaccine was theoretically supposed to reduce cancer in woman, yet the vaccine was promoted for use on children, where it was never tested, because, you can't test vaccines on children!

The result is many thousands of serious injuries and deaths in the USA alone.

In pueblos in Baja, and sometimes in USA, people arrive at schools and give these vaccines without proper informed consent.

The result is in a small town of a few hundred people, multiple children collapsed and there were subsequent deaths.

Point is, no testing on target audience, no proof of efficacy, no consent, history of injuries, yet, Gates/Faiuci proceed to invest in and profit from harmful vaccines.

NEVER EVER has there been a successful RNA virus vaccine, not in more than 40 years of development, yet, here we go with large numbers being pushed out the door, many resulting in injuries, testing procedures abandoned, for a "virus" that has survival of 99.7+ rate and only death in the case who would die anyway in the same period.

Yet few can discern the risk of the vaccines, few see the risk versus reward, the cost versus benefit.

Seniors, in particular, those at risk, must be very cautious about the medicines and vaccines they allow to enter their bodies. There is a quantifiable risk to any vaccine and medicine and people deserve to be informed and make their own choices from informed consent versus coercion, threat, propaganda, and marketing persuasion.

We have a deeply flawed health care system that is designed to profit of the sick, not manage health. Anyone with access to the data can see that we have a serious flaw with for profit health care, that continues to seek more profit, promote fear, and cause significant harm without responsibility for the damage.

Get informed!

[Edited on 11-9-2020 by gnukid]

mtgoat666 - 11-9-2020 at 07:20 PM

Look at the charts. Things are getting bad quickly. https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#trends_dailytrends...

Remember when NYC was bad last winter?
That’s what’s coming this winter across all USA.

Wear a mask.

JZ - 11-9-2020 at 07:25 PM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666

Look at the charts. Things are getting bad quickly. https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#trends_dailytrends...

Remember when NYC was bad last winter?
That’s what’s coming this winter across all USA.

Wear a mask.

NYC was bad because the governor thought it was a good idea to let Covid positive ppl return to nursing homes killing 10K+ thousand people.

John Harper - 11-9-2020 at 07:43 PM

Quote: Originally posted by JZ

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666

NYC was bad because the governor thought it was a good idea to let Covid positive ppl return to nursing homes killing 10K+ thousand people.

We've learned a lot since then, but it's now gotten worse. Got an explanation or solution now, Einstein???

Blame the governor?? Where was our national leadership???

John

[Edited on 11-10-2020 by John Harper]

JZ - 11-9-2020 at 09:32 PM

Quote: Originally posted by lencho

And that requires widespread cooperation of the citizenry, something which will likely be difficult in a country where right now according to many, everything is a government conspiracy to suppress our God-given right to do whatever we damn well please in spite of its potential impact on our neighbors.

Compare the U.S. to South Korea right now in terms of the pandemic. It's... embarrassing. :rolleyes:

Have you been to SK? I've been about a dozen times, and talk to someone there a couple times a month.

SK has 50M ppl - the US is about 7x bigger. SK has NK on one border and is surrounded by water otherwise. They didn't have ppl flying into the country from everywhere in the world at a fraction of the rate the US did.

Also SK has very little ethic diversity. Doesn't have immigration challenges. And didn't just watch 6 months of rioting and looting.

In sum, comparing SK to the US is a fools errand.

surabi - 11-10-2020 at 11:39 AM

Quote: Originally posted by JZ

I also am in contact with people in SK. They have kept their infection rate down because people have voluntarily co-operated with masking, distancing and keeping non-essential movement to a minimum. Like intelligent adults, not like the US babies throwing tantrums about violating their "rights" to spread a deadly virus.

They also have respect for their elders and don't expect them to have to hide themselves away so young people can party.

[Edited on 11-10-2020 by surabi]

pacificobob - 11-10-2020 at 04:30 PM

Quote: Originally posted by surabi

Quote: Originally posted by JZ

i agree, i traveled to south Korea every month for 22years. they have cultural characteristics that make the proper health protocol possible. american culture, like many cultures is seriously flawed.

JZ - 11-10-2020 at 04:36 PM

Sounds like you guys should move to SK and forfeit your US citizenship. Congrats, and good luck finding something similar to Baja over there, maybe Malaysia or Thailand?

[Edited on 11-10-2020 by JZ]

motoged - 11-10-2020 at 04:41 PM

Quote: Originally posted by JZ

Sounds like you guys should move to SK and forfeit your US citizenship. Congrats, and good luck finding something similar to Baja over there, maybe Malaysia or Thailand?
[Edited on 11-10-2020 by JZ]

Sounds to me like you continue to present yourself as an expert on all things....except when mooching gps points or ideas of where to go in Baja.....you know.....that parasitic tendency you have.... :rolleyes:

[Edited on 11-10-2020 by motoged]

surabi - 11-10-2020 at 04:47 PM

Quote: Originally posted by JZ

Sounds like you guys should move to SK and forfeit your US citizenship. Congrats, and good luck finding something similar to Baja over there, maybe Malaysia or Thailand?
[Edited on 11-10-2020 by JZ]

Ah, the love it or leave it mentality. Stalwart of the flag-waving crowd. Saves having to come up with anything intelligent to say.

No worries- I renounced my US citizenship 40 years ago and have been living quite happily in Mexico for the past 20 years. Not in Baja, which isn't my cup of tea. Too full of right wing, beer swilling American rednecks for me.

queseyo - 11-10-2020 at 05:25 PM

LMAO :bounce:

[Edited on 11-11-2020 by queseyo]

mtgoat666 - 11-10-2020 at 06:10 PM

Quote: Originally posted by JZ

Sounds like you guys should move to SK and forfeit your US citizenship. Congrats, and good luck finding something similar to Baja over there, maybe Malaysia or Thailand?

Shorty McJizzy:
Sounds like you should move to SK. You would do better in a shorter population, and would have fewer feelings of inadequacy if you found yourself taller.

Or stay here and put lifts on your shoes.

LancairDriver - 11-10-2020 at 08:16 PM

They have been individually wearing masks voluntarily throughout Asia long before it became the fad here in the US. Prior to COVID, mask use in the US was pretty much limited to Halloween or for robbing a 7-11.

surabi - 11-10-2020 at 08:55 PM

Quote: Originally posted by LancairDriver

They have been individually wearing masks voluntarily throughout Asia long before it became the fad here in the US. Prior to COVID, mask use in the US was pretty much limited to Halloween or for robbing a 7-11.

Yes, the Asians actually believe in long-established science on infectious disease control. Fancy that.

[Edited on 11-11-2020 by surabi]

mtgoat666 - 11-11-2020 at 07:42 AM

SanDiego is now back in the purple tier, Covid raging out of control,...

Biden gearing up to fight the virus,.... meanwhile, trump is hallucinating that he won, and it appears that Trump admin has given up on public health, and are convinced that a vaccine will solve everyone’s problems,....

USA may get a vaccine by Q1 2021... but will it be promptly and widely available in Mexico?