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Lee
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Need feedback from local Baja nomads on virus conditions
Things are looking dire NOB and anticipate more lockdowns coming as things spike.
Please check in with what you see SOB?
US Marines: providing enemies of America an opportunity to die for their country since 1775.
What I say before any important decision.
F*ck it.
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Hook
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Many states in Mexico "reporting" new spikes in infection numbers.
I am watching the state of Sonora closely. As they cannot increase their color coding (only the Federal govt can do that), they decided to implement
more restrictions on business operations and social gatherings as of Nov. 2. They are currently yellow. With the added restrictions, call it yellow+.
The state Sonoran Health Council also laid out plans in case the Feds decide to put them into orange category instead. Which is possible, as Sonora
has been orange in the past.
Orange would cease most all recreational gatherings, close most all businesses on weekends and force restaurants to go back to take out only.
[Edited on 11-1-2020 by Hook]
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tiotomasbcs
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South Swell coming....can you bring some wax! It's essential?! Seriously... most locals and gringos are wearing masks and following guidelines. A
few restaurants are open and I'm sure La Morena and others are enforcing standards like distancing and 30-40 % capacity. I don't stay out late as you
could guess, Amigo. Events are being canceled...No Dia de los Muertos Festival or 5K Run a few. No Carnival boats dumping tourists in TS altho we
have some visitors with & w/o masks. I have heard of locals getting sick but no gringos in our Pescadero area. Hasta luego. Tio
[Edited on 11-1-2020 by tiotomasbcs]
[Edited on 11-2-2020 by tiotomasbcs]
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Don Pisto
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Ave Revolucion last night
there's only two things in life but I forget what they are........
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JZ
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Listen to the science. The WHO tells you that lock downs aren't the answer.
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John M
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SOB - our experience
Be smart, be careful, have fun - Stay out of crowded places
We had absolutely no issues wandering Baja for 25 days -
We had gotten a COVID test just before leaving - negative
We got a COVID test several days after returning - negative
Most places of business require masks and a shoe wash of some sort.
Relaxing, fun, as usual.
John M
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BajaBlanca
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In La Bocana, a village in the middle of Baja - on the Pacific Ocean, we have no cases so far.
The big stores require masks.
Children under 12 not allowed to enter.
Gel available as soon as you enter.
Our beach restaurant has gel, the foot splash and then now they wash down each table with a bleach solution, and masks are required.
The cemetary will not be open to the public tomorrow and mass will be celebrated, as it has been for a while now, in the middle of the desert with all
of us in our cars.
Schools are not having classes - everything is done via whatsapp.
If anyone gets sick, they stay home until they can prove they tested positive.
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Alm
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Wearing a mask is not "relaxing as usual", let's not fool ourselves.
Shoe wash is an idiocy.
As to the lockdowns - they work, but I don't think there were real lockdowns anywhere other than China - or that there will be. Everything was closed,
only some grocery stores stayed open. People were not allowed to leave home other than 1 (one) member of household a few times a week to buy
groceries. Enforcement was consistent.
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gnukid
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Lockdows, restrictions, facemasks, hand cleanser etc can do one thing, DELAY the inevitable bio-diversity social engagement with others, there is no
end game other than mind your personal health, get rest, exercise, eat a healthy diet. You can not live in a bubble, isolated, distancing from the
world.
Macro numbers of flu-like infections and overall illness and death is the same numbers average year to year, CV is a flu, there is no epidemic or
pandemic, there is mass promoted fear and idiocy to gain control and cause harm, while no increase in health services has been made to infrastructure,
support services, dispensing aid in the form of food, medicines, or money to poor people in Mexico, so people are suffering due to poor economy, lack
of basic food, light, clean water. Seniors especially, but everyone with medical issues are suffering, alone and in fear without adequate support.
Imagine you have a medical issue, the first step is you are separated, your family cannot even enter the hospital, often times families have fewer
resources and in Mexico all services cost money on the spot, you pay to fly in specialists, you pay for medicines, food, you must find your own blood
donors. except that now you are "required" to be isolated and alone with no visitors. It's quite a mess and it has more to do with poorly managed
health care procedures and services, lack of support than due to an increase of a unique illness. Worse thing that can happen is allow isolation and
intubation which leads to death 60%-80% of the time and is extremely harmful, while oxygen mask may be a better solution, really you need hot soups,
hot fluids, cough syrup, decongestion, open up breathing and don't allow yourself to be alone.
There will always be those in poor health unable to fight off colds and flus, some die every year, generally associated to long term illness, obesity,
cardiovascular and pulmonary illness.
Today, Go Out, enjoy sunshine, fresh air, hot soup, tea with lemon and local honey, ensure you are getting your 90 essential vitamins, amino acids and
minerals, get some exercise, eat healthy fruits and vegetables and cut back on fatty foods and sugar, alcohol and smoking and mind your health.
Isolation is the leading cause of poor health, illness and early death.
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BajaNomad
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https://www.cdc.gov/flu/symptoms/flu-vs-covid19.htm
https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseas...
https://www.scripps.org/news_items/7052-flu-vs-coronavirus-w...
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gnukid
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There has always been influenza, corona viruses, many types, mutations, varieties, now we know a little more about those variations. Nothing new,
nothing different, you can not isolate to be healthy, health is about engagement, diet, exercise, sunshine, fresh air, if you isolate and delay
social contact you are harming yourself and you gain nothing.
Why do we not have investment in health infrastructure, outreach to those at risk, improved health education about diet, exercise, sunshine and fresh
air and the value of each vitamin, mineral and amino acid to health? Yet the only message is isolation? Wrong!
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shari
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Mood: there is no reality except the one contained within us "Herman Hesse"
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The scene in Bahia Asuncion is the same as La Bocana....no cases here, wear a mask in stores, gel & wash hands but everything is open and we are
busy with happy fishers.
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BajaParrothead
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Quote: Originally posted by Lee  | Things are looking dire NOB and anticipate more lockdowns coming as things spike.
Please check in with what you see SOB? |
Here is from Wednesday's BPE post:
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medium Cool
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Spent a few weeks the end of Sept and the beginning of Oct., started out in the Mulege area and enjoyed the peace and quiet of old Baja, reminded me
of a few trips we had 25 yrs ago or so.
The resturants were hurting (according to the locals) but we had company at a few table every time we ventured out, of coarse thier were the
typical precautions, hand washing, the foot gel, etc. Most any popular beach had signs saying they were closed, but there were sprinklings of people
out and about, even some camping, but no huge crowds or no one that I saw enforcing any closures.
We also made a trip to La Bocana and had a rather epic fishing trip and some great hospitality at Blanca's. La Bocana also had the typical
protocols in place, but otherwise seemed pretty normal, no one seemed to overly excited after 7 months of extra scubbing and washing.
On the way back, Ensenada was about as jammed packed as ever, with mostly locals. Didn't see a bunch of people wearing masks, but typical
protocol seemed to be attempted.
Bottom line, if your scared, don't go. if you go, enjoy yourself and be smart. The folks in Baja need the visitors, but, gotta say we kinda
enjoyed a lower profile trip
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pacificobob
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lots of cases in todos and pesky....a few seasonal gringos trickling in.
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bajafreaks
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We went to our place in Los Barriles last month for 12 days and the feeling I got was Baja in general is taking this virus a little more seriously
than the US.
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John Harper
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| Quote: Originally posted by bajafreaks | | We went to our place in Los Barriles last month for 12 days and the feeling I got was Baja in general is taking this virus a little more seriously
than the US. |
A sense of community responsibility still exists in Mexico, not so much in the USA it seems.
John
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JZ
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Uninformed comment made from the basement watching cable news reporting on the outliers. How many states/cities have you traveled to. Ppl are taking
it serious all over the US. Florida was very cautious when we visited in August.
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Lee
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| Quote: Originally posted by JZ |
Uninformed comment made from the basement watching cable news reporting on the outliers. How many states/cities have you traveled to. Ppl are taking
it serious all over the US. Florida was very cautious when we visited in August.
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Looked like John was comparing MX to the US. JZ are you writing that, in your travels, you think the US takes the virus as seriously as Baja?
I think there are regional pockets in the US who are divided on what represents seriousness. Presidential rallies, for example, college kids
partying, etc.
Overall, I think, yes, the virus is being taken seriously by everyone.
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Pete69
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Just spent a month at our house in Punta Final and there is no precautions taking place except for the homeowners. In the campground it's buttcrack to
elbow, tent to tent. 40 to 50 cars etc. every weekend, it looks like spring break every Friday to Monday. No masks, no social distancing, disgusting
outhouses that the campers share with everyone every weekend that never get cleaned, or disinfected. If you want to try to get covid, it's the place
to be.
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