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Congrats to Joe Biden! Our relationship with and travel to Mexico will be changing!

mtgoat666 - 11-13-2020 at 01:48 PM

Congrats to Joe Biden, the vote is done, looks like he decisively won (though I have heard that a few people are delusional and clinging to a fantasy alternative reality).

How do you think our relationships with Mexico will improve under the Biden admin?

Will cross-border traffic improve?

Will Biden Admin speed up sentri/GE reviews/approvals?

Hook - 11-13-2020 at 02:15 PM

Ah, the JJJ mantle of troll posts has been taken up by The Goat. No surprise here..................

I dont see any problem in letting the State and Federal governments decide who won the election. News media declarations of winners has been wrong in the past. See Dewey vs Truman or Bush vs Gore. But it is very unlikely that they are wrong, in this case.

I would take the advise of Joe Biden to his supporters, in the 48 hours after the election. Just be patient and let the process run it's course. The process of counting votes is NOT a process of the media.

That said, I think it is MORE likely that there will be restrictions on the border for persons crossing in both directions, under a Biden admin. Limiting the virus will be the reason given.

The only border crossers who will have an easier time will be the persons seeking asylum or those caught trying to cross illegally. The virus will be ignored, in their cases, for political reasons.

John Harper - 11-13-2020 at 02:41 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Hook  


The only border crossers who will have an easier time will be the persons seeking asylum or those caught trying to cross illegally. The virus will be ignored, in their cases, for political reasons.


You make a comment like this, yet you call Goat a troll? Take a look in the mirror if you can find a stool to stand on. Surprise, the troll is you!

John



[Edited on 11-13-2020 by John Harper]

Tioloco - 11-13-2020 at 02:47 PM

Quote: Originally posted by John Harper  
Quote: Originally posted by Hook  


The only border crossers who will have an easier time will be the persons seeking asylum or those caught trying to cross illegally. The virus will be ignored, in their cases, for political reasons.


You make a comment like this, yet you call Goat a troll? Take a look in the mirror if you can find a stool to stand on. Surprise, the troll is you!

John



[Edited on 11-13-2020 by John Harper


Captain Harper coming to the rescue of the Goat. Very nice gesture.

caj13 - 11-13-2020 at 05:41 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Hook  
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I dont see any problem in letting the State and Federal governments decide who won the election. .


sorry Hook, the people of the USA decide who will be their president, the states are simply score keepers.

Hook - 11-13-2020 at 06:37 PM

Quote: Originally posted by caj13  
Quote: Originally posted by Hook  
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I dont see any problem in letting the State and Federal governments decide who won the election. .


sorry Hook, the people of the USA decide who will be their president, the states are simply score keepers.


Yeah, how'd that work out for Hillary? And Al Gore?

My point is, only official government organizations can certify an election, not a news organization. I thought that was obvious. Just because news organizations declare a winner, doesnt make a candidate a winner.

News organizations can make educated guesses. But they have been wrong.



[Edited on 11-14-2020 by Hook]

Mr. Bills - 11-13-2020 at 06:49 PM

Quote: Originally posted by caj13  
Quote: Originally posted by Hook  
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I dont see any problem in letting the State and Federal governments decide who won the election. .


sorry Hook, the people of the USA decide who will be their president, the states are simply score keepers.


Au contraire. The President is elected by the states, not directly by the people.

The people of each state elect electors who are pledged to a particular candidate who in turn cast their vote for President on behalf of their state via the Electoral College. It is the Electoral College that elects the President and it is the Electoral College that protects the less populated states from the tyranny of the more urban and highly populated states. It is one of the most essential underpinnings of our democratic republic of sovereign states.

Our most recent and potentially most promising Supreme Court Justice reminded us of our chosen form of government when she closed her post-conformation remarks with this:

"I love the Constitution and the Democratic Republic that it establishes, and I will devote myself to preserving it."



[Edited on 11-14-2020 by Mr. Bills]

PaulW - 11-13-2020 at 07:56 PM

Goat, absolutely, better relations with Mexico.
The vaccine starting later this month will have an even greater impact on border crossings.
Try to not mix up Virus with politics. Two different issues one to be solve soon.
Please remember about half of the voters do not like Biden. So don't be to hard on us losers.
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Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Congrats to Joe Biden, the vote is done, looks like he decisively won (though I have heard that a few people are delusional and clinging to a fantasy alternative reality).

How do you think our relationships with Mexico will improve under the Biden admin?

Will cross-border traffic improve?

Will Biden Admin speed up sentri/GE reviews/approvals?

mtgoat666 - 11-13-2020 at 08:32 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Mr. Bills  
Quote: Originally posted by caj13  
Quote: Originally posted by Hook  
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I dont see any problem in letting the State and Federal governments decide who won the election. .


sorry Hook, the people of the USA decide who will be their president, the states are simply score keepers.


Au contraire. The President is elected by the states, not directly by the people.

The people of each state elect electors who are pledged to a particular candidate who in turn cast their vote for President on behalf of their state via the Electoral College. It is the Electoral College that elects the President and it is the Electoral College that protects the less populated states from the tyranny of the more urban and highly populated states. It is one of the most essential underpinnings of our democratic republic of sovereign states.

Our most recent and potentially most promising Supreme Court Justice reminded us of our chosen form of government when she closed her post-conformation remarks with this:

"I love the Constitution and the Democratic Republic that it establishes, and I will devote myself to preserving it."



[Edited on 11-14-2020 by Mr. Bills]


Barrett is a catholic nut job. She is so over-the-op religious that she does not believe in condoms, finds gays and lesbians to be devil spawn, and wants women to go back to coat hanger abortions, she is total raving religious zealot, a fanatical 19th century relic that is gobsmacked by biblical fairytales.
Her life story shows she is a total flocking religious nut. People with such blind and all-consuming religions focus put too much reliance on fairy tales and ignore western democratic principles of separation of church and state.

FYI all agree that it should be 1 person 1 vote. If hillbillies don’t like it, they can suck it:light:

[Edited on 11-14-2020 by mtgoat666]

Mr. Bills - 11-13-2020 at 09:20 PM

Thank you, Mr. Goat, for your most recent diatribe.

In one single post you have demonstrated that you are a complete idiot.

I trust that you are aware that Mexico is predominately Roman Catholic (82.7%) and that Mexican Catholics say the same mass each Sunday as Justice Coney Barrett.

Lee - 11-13-2020 at 09:36 PM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Ya, let's see how long he holds up!


When Joe slows down, Kamala will take up the slack.

President Harris has a nice ring to it.

And her deciding vote in a 50/50 Senate will cause conservatives to implode.

Stockpiling some popcorn for the circus.

mtgoat666 - 11-13-2020 at 10:43 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Mr. Bills  
Thank you, Mr. Goat, for your most recent diatribe.

In one single post you have demonstrated that you are a complete idiot.

I trust that you are aware that Mexico is predominately Roman Catholic (82.7%) and that Mexican Catholics say the same mass each Sunday as Justice Coney Barrett.


The Catholic Church hid massive sex abuse by priests on boys. Why would any non-pedophile still be a member of the Catholic Church?
Twisted, sick people run the Catholic Church. They are still committing crimes, and church is still hiding the crimes.
Something is fundamentally wrong with Catholic Church...

Following Pope Folks in Cleric Clown Suits ...........

MrBillM - 11-15-2020 at 02:56 PM

WHO can take seriously divine guidance from a bunch who look like refugees from a circus show.

"....... Really ? God told you to dress like that ?"

advrider - 11-15-2020 at 06:34 PM

As soon as I can cross I will and spend some money to help the wonderful people of Baja. Viva Baja....

TMW - 11-15-2020 at 11:59 PM

Why would the relationship change with Biden? Other than some BS at first nothing changed with Trump, nor with Obama, nor with Bush. I haven't seen any real change in our relationship with Mexico since I moved to CA in 1978. Why would it change now. People still cross the border illegally. Ca has an ever increasing Hispanic population. So what is new? Lib. Dem. still want to tax everything they can, that's not new.

mtgoat666 - 11-16-2020 at 12:42 AM

Quote: Originally posted by TMW  
Why would the relationship change with Biden? Other than some BS at first nothing changed with Trump, nor with Obama, nor with Bush.


Trump said so many bigoted thing toward Mexicans that I lost track. Words matter. Joe won’t preach hate like trump did. Joe won’t cultivate racist hate groups like trump.

Joe won’t separate immigrant kids from parents and lock them up.

Joe won’t flock over the Dreamers.

pacificobob - 11-16-2020 at 07:20 AM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Quote: Originally posted by TMW  
Why would the relationship change with Biden? Other than some BS at first nothing changed with Trump, nor with Obama, nor with Bush.


Trump said so many bigoted thing toward Mexicans that I lost track. Words matter. Joe won’t preach hate like trump did. Joe won’t cultivate racist hate groups like trump.

Joe won’t separate immigrant kids from parents and lock them up.

Joe won’t flock over the Dreamers.



TMW, it sounds like you might not have an appreciation for just how little the Mexican people think of trump. they really have negative fellings about der gropen fuhrer.
i hear negative stuff about impotus DAILY.

David K - 11-20-2020 at 04:05 PM

Just keep posting BAJA content...
I keep trying to come up with interesting posts from the past, trip reports, history, photos... A few others do too.
Instead of complaining there isn't enough Baja posts, post some Baja stuff! Covid has killed most travel this past year so post up your old photos or trip stories, please!

TMW - 11-21-2020 at 12:34 AM

Quote: Originally posted by pacificobob  


TMW, it sounds like you might not have an appreciation for just how little the Mexican people think of trump. they really have negative fellings about der gropen fuhrer.
i hear negative stuff about impotus DAILY.


It doesn't matter what the Mexican people think of Trump, they have no say in what he does or did. Nor do they in what Biden says or does. It's how they treat me that I care about. If they don't want me in Baja because of Trump so be it, I'll take my money elsewhere.

pacificobob - 11-22-2020 at 07:25 AM

reminds me about a book about a narcissistic opera singer.
I believe the title was " ME ME ME ME"

gnukid - 11-22-2020 at 08:03 AM

Biden needs to open the border to massive human trafficking and high power arms sales to cartels to create destabilization and chaos like he did with Obama and Holder the last time.

pacificobob - 11-22-2020 at 09:37 AM

I'm not buying it without footnotes,links or cut and paste references.

pacificobob - 11-22-2020 at 10:03 AM

let's be hopeful it was the former .

gnukid - 11-22-2020 at 12:56 PM

Under Obama/Biden there were about 1million kids trafficked across the border from Mexico per year, and nearly 1 million USA kids gone missing each year. Those numbers are way down under Trump. We've got to get those numbers up to lower oligarch factory labor costs etc. otherwise rich people will pay more at Christmas.

Fast and Furious and Gun Walking were genius programs under Obama/Biden/Holder to traffic massive number of high power arms, 40 caliber semi automatic weapons, untracked, that included extensive cartel meetings in the whitehouse! Let's get back to the good ol days of being number in murder worldwide in BCS! C'Mon Man! What are you are dog faced pony soldier!

Biden is a great guy!



[Edited on 11-22-2020 by gnukid]

mtgoat666 - 11-22-2020 at 01:33 PM

Quote: Originally posted by gnukid  

Biden is a great guy!


I can agree with that sentence!

pacificobob - 11-24-2020 at 07:47 AM

X2!

apple - 12-1-2020 at 12:27 PM

Quote: Originally posted by gnukid  
Under Obama/Biden there were about 1million kids trafficked across the border from Mexico per year, and nearly 1 million USA kids gone missing each year.
[Edited on 11-22-2020 by gnukid]

1 in 300 Americans are trafficked in to Mexico every year? 1 in 100 American's under the age of 18 go missing every year? How is that even possible?! Oh, that's right, it's not. These numbers are ginned up by Q-Anon related conspiracy networks that have focused on child trafficking, watched Taken too many times, and now grossly over exaggerate the rate of missing and kidnapped children in America. In truth fewer than 400 children are abducted by strangers each year in America. Most missing children in America are either running away from troubled families, or taken by a parent as a part of a custody dispute.

https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-donald-trump-child-...

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-wisconsin-missinggirl-dat...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kidnapping_in_the_United_State...

gnukid - 12-1-2020 at 01:55 PM

https://www.factretriever.com/human-trafficking-facts

Mexicans and citizens from other countries are trafficked to and from USA in numbers that are unknown though we can extrapolate from the number of known captures of trafficked children traveling with Coyotes, it is established that in the USA nearly one million (800,000+) children go missing every year, likely far more go unreported. 2000 children go missing every day.

https://newspunch.com/800k-children-pedophilia-globe/

The numbers of missing and murdered children and women are staggering, though many, including "Apple" make light of it and give excuses, such as they are runaways, or just traveling, or fell out the system.

https://news.northeastern.edu/2019/08/16/human-trafficking-i...

Femincide of Mexican women is epidemic in border regions such as Jaurez.

This year there have been mass arrests of child traffickers in USA, and many rescues, but it just the tip of the iceberg.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drbHjLVVCRo

https://www.foxnews.com/us/human-trafficking-in-america-amon...

When people complain about children separated from parents at the border they overlook, that the children are abandoned by their traffickers who are certainly not their parents, parents do not abandon children to the degree that children are abandoned at the border.

https://calmatters.org/commentary/my-turn/2020/11/california...

It is an epidemic, all reported numbers are under-reporting the true total, since there are always more undiscovered.

For eons, military complex companies such as Haliburton, Dyncorp, and Pentagon Contractors have been implicated in trafficking humans, and in cities in California there are high numbers of trafficked women working, as well as in farm labor camps etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKFEEghfEgE

https://corpwatch.org/article/us-dyncorp-disgrace

https://corpwatch.org/article/us-dyncorp-disgrace

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/jan/15/bosnia-sex-tra...

https://trello.com/b/KdjpFSGS/dyncorp-crimes-by-country

https://aftermathnews.wordpress.com/2008/09/01/halliburton-s...

It's not something to dismiss and ignore, not now, with Biden and Obama on the verge of opening borders to human trafficking once again.

https://newspunch.com/800k-children-pedophilia-globe/

https://www.chicagotribune.com/chi-0512270176dec27-story.htm...



[Edited on 12-1-2020 by gnukid]

apple - 12-1-2020 at 05:06 PM

I'm not making light of anything, I am though pointing out the fact that you are grossly misrepresenting the statistics and the data regarding missing children. It is just not possible for ONE MILLION Mexican children to be trafficked across the border into the US each year, and it is ridiculous to assert as much.

John Harper - 12-2-2020 at 07:36 AM

Operation Wide Receiver was the previous administration's version of Fast and Furious. Neither operation seemed a very good idea to me.

John

pacificobob - 12-2-2020 at 09:40 AM

gnukid, I'm sorry your life has turned out this way. try to find some peace.

gnukid - 12-2-2020 at 09:57 AM

https://uaht.org/is-human-trafficking-the-worst-its-ever-bee...

https://news.un.org/en/story/2019/01/1031552

https://borgenproject.org/tag/human-trafficking-in-mexico/

It's worrisome first and foremost how prevalent defiant ignorance is among some Nomads and worse how it accompanies arrogance, I assume this response is likely based in fear and cognitive dissonance.

Anyone traveling to Baja should be aware that Mexico and USA have a human trafficking problem that is at its worst in all history, the TJ -California border is among the worst in the world for human trafficking.

Each trafficked person has an immediate value or tax to Cartels of 5k+ and that cost is paid by every one of us in addition to the cost of lives, and continued accumulated costs. Trafficking is a commodity supported by corrupt governments, military industrial complex and large scale agribusiness and manufacturing.

Illegal immigration at its core is not just tolerated by supported to reduce labor costs, and put pricing pressure on legal labor.., in addition to sexual slavery, forced prostitution, slave labor agriculture and manufacturing camps,

Costs are passed to everyone through costs of policing, crime, resulting mental and physical disorders, added cost to security, all of that is passed on to each one us.

Trafficked children don't simply escape and recover.

Cartel crime is a high cost and TJ-California, Arizona, Texas etc are among the worst places in the world for human trafficking.

Worse yet is the harm done to women and children, who suffer from abuse, many are killed, and while some may escape, recovery is extremely difficult.

Situational awareness can help to reduce crimes, pay attention to people around you, be aware and willing to help. Do not ignore the high cost of trafficking to human lives and to each one of us.



[Edited on 12-2-2020 by gnukid]

gnukid - 12-2-2020 at 10:21 AM

Quote: Originally posted by apple  
I'm not making light of anything, I am though pointing out the fact that you are grossly misrepresenting the statistics and the data regarding missing children. It is just not possible for ONE MILLION Mexican children to be trafficked across the border into the US each year, and it is ridiculous to assert as much.


Nearly one million (800,000+) children IN THE USA go missing each year.

Mexico - USA border is used to Traffick humans south to north and north to south from many countries in and out of the Americas to the USA and vice versa.

https://meaww.com/sex-and-modern-slavery-southern-border-us-...

They are not only Mexican children being trafficked to the north, it's children from all around the world as well as women and men, using the border as a avenue to move humans, drugs, weapons, contraband of many kinds.

It is reported that perhaps %20 of major label goods that arrive in the USA are black market (copies/fakes made in slave labor camps) while many major manufactures have incidental slave labor, including Apple, Nike, etc.

https://www.computerworld.com/article/3290370/fake-products-...

https://footwearnews.com/2019/business/retail/footwear-count...

https://sgbonline.com/report-20-percent-of-athletic-goods-ar...

https://www.businesstoday.in/latest/trends/20-of-the-product...

https://daxueconsulting.com/counterfeit-products-in-china/



The issue of numbers is not something to get hung up on.

There will be "Reported" cases, and "Unreported" cases, also known as Known and Unknown.

For every case reported there are many more unreported.

Nearly every product you purchase has some relationship to human trafficking, cell phones, computers, agriculture, textiles etc. and worse sex industry, porn, prostitution, pedophilia etc.

It is incumbent on everyone, both Men and Women to rise up and support their communities, stop crime, speak up about the known cases of abuse, and be vigilant to protect family and community when out and about, open your eyes, increase situational awareness, pay attention, watch for clues of human trafficking around you and take action to stop it.




[Edited on 12-2-2020 by gnukid]

caj13 - 12-2-2020 at 10:27 AM

Those are horrific numbers Gnuey, why didn't your orange overlord put a stop to this? You seem to be wanting to Blame a guy who was a private citizen the past 4 years with no power. How come those in power did nothing?

gnukid - 12-2-2020 at 10:36 AM

Quote: Originally posted by caj13  
Those are horrific numbers Gnuey, why didn't your orange overlord put a stop to this? You seem to be wanting to Blame a guy who was a private citizen the past 4 years with no power. How come those in power did nothing?


Projection and deflection to dichotomy is often a tool used to deflect from personal responsibility, little grasshopper. You are blessed to continue your difficult journey to arrive at personal awareness of your strength and presence as a capable, honest and moral human who contributes to a better world through action. May you find Peace in your journey.

Mr. Bills - 12-2-2020 at 10:39 AM

While I do not deny that human trafficking is a serious issue that deserves greater attention, some of the numbers being bandied about seem grossly inflated.

Here are different numbers. They are not "my" numbers so please don't shoot the messenger. I'm just posting the links.

https://www.state.gov/reports/2020-trafficking-in-persons-re...

https://www.cbp.gov/border-security/human-trafficking



[Edited on 12-2-2020 by Mr. Bills]

gnukid - 12-2-2020 at 11:11 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Mr. Bills  
While I do not deny that human trafficking is a serious issue that deserves greater attention, some of the numbers being bandied about seem grossly inflated.

Here are different numbers. They are not "my" numbers so please don't shoot the messenger. I'm just posting the links.

https://www.state.gov/reports/2020-trafficking-in-persons-re...

https://www.cbp.gov/border-security/human-trafficking



[Edited on 12-2-2020 by Mr. Bills]


It's important to be comfortable with variations in numbers of reports, due to competing agendas and of course, the "reported" numbers are a portion, a fraction, of unknown degree.

For any topic, subject, analysis, one must be comfortable with consideration for the unknown, based on the known, extrapolate, consider factors, etc.

Taking in account the "known" numbers of human trafficking in the USA of just children, women and men, the numbers are shockingly high, at minimum 1:300 people are trafficked, at worst it's higher 1:200 or 1:100.

Or you could argue that the reports are false and its all made up and never happened, if that makes you sleep better.

Point is, there is a cost to you personally regardless of the amount, you pay, you are suffering the consequences of stress, crime, increased costs, taxes, etc. you are paying to support human trafficking by cartels supported by global corporations and military industrial complex, run by sociopaths who enjoy controlling others for profit or worse.

Open your eyes, work together to keep an eye out for suspicious people, situations, and strange activity stick together, stay safe and use technology to your advantage to communicate and capture evidence and take action.

[Edited on 12-2-2020 by gnukid]

Jack Swords - 12-2-2020 at 12:59 PM

Typically, too many non credible sources are listed...just because sources are listed does not contribute to the validity of the poster.
A questionable source exhibits one or more of the following: extreme bias, consistent promotion of propaganda/conspiracies, poor or no sourcing to credible information, a complete lack of transparency and/or is fake news. Fake News is the deliberate attempt to publish hoaxes and/or disinformation for the purpose of profit or influence.

Newspunch being tagged as a source simply demeans any further posting validity. Using Google to affirm one's point to select "sources" to scatter through out postings contributes little to readers. Most will simply verify these selected "sources" and that just becomes tiresome.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/news-punch/







News Punch (aka YourNewsWire) is a far right-wing conspiracy and pseudoscience website that also routinely publishes fake news.

apple - 12-2-2020 at 05:13 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Jack Swords  
Typically, too many non credible sources are listed...just because sources are listed does not contribute to the validity of the poster.

are you saying footwearnews.com is not a reliable source for human trafficking figures?!

[Edited on 12-3-2020 by apple]

John Harper - 12-2-2020 at 05:43 PM

OMG. First, it was Covid denial, but now, with close to 300K dead, that's a bit hard to hold on to?

So, your next delusion is kidnapped and trafficked children? I thought "good guys with guns" would prevent these mass abductions? What's next, Mothman or Slenderman are doing all these nefarious activities? Maybe the "Deep State?"

How about "Stop the Steal" for your next crusade? Send some money to Trump to help continue the struggle.

Gnukid, you are a classic piece of work. How do people like you come to think like this? It defies explanation.

John

gnukid - 12-2-2020 at 07:40 PM

John, You sincerely believe the things you post, you have a strong commitment to your liberal perspective, don't project your views on me or others.

Stand up for yourself, make your point, back it up, stand behind your words, it's time you own it.

If you believe in a fantom "new" virus threatening you and you need to sanitize your hands and feet, isolate, distance from others, wear face masks or face shields, gloves etc go for it, stay home.

Stand behind your beliefs, but don't project your liberal nonsense at others, have a back bone, be your own man.

You fail to understand the difference between the fact that COVID exists as flu yet isn't a high risk nor is it alleviated by draconian restrictions on mobility, or toxic hand wash and prophylactic face masks and gloves.

300k people died in the USA in a period where typically 300k people die per year, and those people are provisionally categorized as died WITH COVID, not FROM COVID, predominantly they were seniors 70-80+, people with 2-3 pre-existing illnesses, heart disease, diabetes, cancer, while miraculously common flu no longer exists, as well as a long list of other illnesses.

No significant change in total excess deaths year to year.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm


Apparently, CDC's reports are too nuanced for you to digest, nor do you care about destroying the lives of an entire generation of youth at no risk from COVID, because your are so self absorbed, you MIGHT catch the flu and be asymptomatic, your irrational fears trump everyone else's freedom to live their lives, go to work, school, or even to exercise, because "John' has an irrational fear he might catch a cold or flu he heard about on MSNBC TV.

You could care less about a generation of children deprived of having a birthday party, deprived of contact sports, school, mobility, socialization, while you deny an epidemic of global feminicide, or Mexico-USA human trafficking, slave labor and forced prostitution, so own it as your opinion, and back it up, you self absorbed, fantom virus obsessed, irrational senior Nomad!

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/u-bans-cotton-imports-xinjian...



[Edited on 12-3-2020 by gnukid]

John Harper - 12-3-2020 at 10:08 AM

You think "stay home" is the only alternative? What kind of ridiculous either/or is that? I'm on campus, masked, distanced, etc. every day. With students, also masked and distanced. What is the problem with following directions on mitigating a pandemic? Should we do absolutely nothing and just let the hospitals, ICUs, and other facilities just overflow to the point of collapse? Is that your solution?

You think these hospitalization numbers are normal annual occurences? Just the "flu" in a different form? Tell me, when's the last time you heard about the "flu" causing so many hospitalizations? Not that I ever recall.

How are youth's lives destroyed by wearing masks and social distancing. I have 30 students on campus with me every day. For Christ's sakes, this pandemic has only been 9 months so far, hardly enough time to ruin a child's future. I'm sure children can adapt, far better that you can, obviously. I see kids every day, and they are amazingly resilient. Unlike you.

There are 74 million children (0-18) in the USA. 1 million is 1.3% of that total. That would mean every year 39 kids from my high school population of 3000 would disappear. I can tell you after almost 20 years of teaching that has not, nor ever, occurred.

Maybe you should just "stay off the internet" since whatever sites you visit certainly have drained your ability to use "common sense."

There's lots of problems in the world, a bit hard to rank which one to crusade about. But, it appears you have many crusades. Good for you.

There's rampant feminicide (is that a real word?) in India, Pakistan, and Afghanistan. Why don't we invade those countries and stop it? Oh, yeah, we did invade Afghanistan, and failed miserably.

At least you're not a Holocaust denier as well. Although I'm sure that's on the horizon.

John




[Edited on 12-4-2020 by John Harper]

What The Phantom Knew and the Gnu Knows

MrBillM - 12-3-2020 at 10:22 AM

I remember reading "The Phantom" back in my preteen years.

There IS a comic-strip similarity between that and reading Gnutty Gnudisims here.