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mtgoat666
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Congrats to Joe Biden! Our relationship with and travel to Mexico will be changing!
Congrats to Joe Biden, the vote is done, looks like he decisively won (though I have heard that a few people are delusional and clinging to a fantasy
alternative reality).
How do you think our relationships with Mexico will improve under the Biden admin?
Will cross-border traffic improve?
Will Biden Admin speed up sentri/GE reviews/approvals?
Woke!
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will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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Ah, the JJJ mantle of troll posts has been taken up by The Goat. No surprise here..................
I dont see any problem in letting the State and Federal governments decide who won the election. News media declarations of winners has been wrong in
the past. See Dewey vs Truman or Bush vs Gore. But it is very unlikely that they are wrong, in this case.
I would take the advise of Joe Biden to his supporters, in the 48 hours after the election. Just be patient and let the process run it's course. The
process of counting votes is NOT a process of the media.
That said, I think it is MORE likely that there will be restrictions on the border for persons crossing in both directions, under a Biden admin.
Limiting the virus will be the reason given.
The only border crossers who will have an easier time will be the persons seeking asylum or those caught trying to cross illegally. The virus will be
ignored, in their cases, for political reasons.
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Quote: Originally posted by Hook  |
The only border crossers who will have an easier time will be the persons seeking asylum or those caught trying to cross illegally. The virus will be
ignored, in their cases, for political reasons. |
You make a comment like this, yet you call Goat a troll? Take a look in the mirror if you can find a stool to stand on. Surprise, the troll is you!
John
[Edited on 11-13-2020 by John Harper]
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| Quote: Originally posted by John Harper | | Quote: Originally posted by Hook |
The only border crossers who will have an easier time will be the persons seeking asylum or those caught trying to cross illegally. The virus will be
ignored, in their cases, for political reasons. |
You make a comment like this, yet you call Goat a troll? Take a look in the mirror if you can find a stool to stand on. Surprise, the troll is you!
John
[Edited on 11-13-2020 by John Harper
Captain Harper coming to the rescue of the Goat. Very nice gesture. |
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| Quote: Originally posted by Hook | .
I dont see any problem in letting the State and Federal governments decide who won the election. . |
sorry Hook, the people of the USA decide who will be their president, the states are simply score keepers.
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| Quote: Originally posted by caj13 | | Quote: Originally posted by Hook | .
I dont see any problem in letting the State and Federal governments decide who won the election. . |
sorry Hook, the people of the USA decide who will be their president, the states are simply score keepers. |
Yeah, how'd that work out for Hillary? And Al Gore?
My point is, only official government organizations can certify an election, not a news organization. I thought that was obvious. Just because news
organizations declare a winner, doesnt make a candidate a winner.
News organizations can make educated guesses. But they have been wrong.
[Edited on 11-14-2020 by Hook]
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| Quote: Originally posted by caj13 | | Quote: Originally posted by Hook | .
I dont see any problem in letting the State and Federal governments decide who won the election. . |
sorry Hook, the people of the USA decide who will be their president, the states are simply score keepers. |
Au contraire. The President is elected by the states, not directly by the people.
The people of each state elect electors who are pledged to a particular candidate who in turn cast their vote for President on behalf of their state
via the Electoral College. It is the Electoral College that elects the President and it is the Electoral College that protects the less populated
states from the tyranny of the more urban and highly populated states. It is one of the most essential underpinnings of our democratic republic of
sovereign states.
Our most recent and potentially most promising Supreme Court Justice reminded us of our chosen form of government when she closed her
post-conformation remarks with this:
"I love the Constitution and the Democratic Republic that it establishes, and I will devote myself to preserving it."
[Edited on 11-14-2020 by Mr. Bills]
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Goat, absolutely, better relations with Mexico.
The vaccine starting later this month will have an even greater impact on border crossings.
Try to not mix up Virus with politics. Two different issues one to be solve soon.
Please remember about half of the voters do not like Biden. So don't be to hard on us losers.
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | Congrats to Joe Biden, the vote is done, looks like he decisively won (though I have heard that a few people are delusional and clinging to a fantasy
alternative reality).
How do you think our relationships with Mexico will improve under the Biden admin?
Will cross-border traffic improve?
Will Biden Admin speed up sentri/GE reviews/approvals?
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: Originally posted by Mr. Bills | | Quote: Originally posted by caj13 | | Quote: Originally posted by Hook | .
I dont see any problem in letting the State and Federal governments decide who won the election. . |
sorry Hook, the people of the USA decide who will be their president, the states are simply score keepers. |
Au contraire. The President is elected by the states, not directly by the people.
The people of each state elect electors who are pledged to a particular candidate who in turn cast their vote for President on behalf of their state
via the Electoral College. It is the Electoral College that elects the President and it is the Electoral College that protects the less populated
states from the tyranny of the more urban and highly populated states. It is one of the most essential underpinnings of our democratic republic of
sovereign states.
Our most recent and potentially most promising Supreme Court Justice reminded us of our chosen form of government when she closed her
post-conformation remarks with this:
"I love the Constitution and the Democratic Republic that it establishes, and I will devote myself to preserving it."
[Edited on 11-14-2020 by Mr. Bills] |
Barrett is a catholic nut job. She is so over-the-op religious that she does not believe in condoms, finds gays and lesbians to be devil spawn, and
wants women to go back to coat hanger abortions, she is total raving religious zealot, a fanatical 19th century relic that is gobsmacked by biblical
fairytales.
Her life story shows she is a total flocking religious nut. People with such blind and all-consuming religions focus put too much reliance on fairy
tales and ignore western democratic principles of separation of church and state.
FYI all agree that it should be 1 person 1 vote. If hillbillies don’t like it, they can suck it
[Edited on 11-14-2020 by mtgoat666]
Woke!
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Thank you, Mr. Goat, for your most recent diatribe.
In one single post you have demonstrated that you are a complete idiot.
I trust that you are aware that Mexico is predominately Roman Catholic (82.7%) and that Mexican Catholics say the same mass each Sunday as Justice
Coney Barrett.
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When Joe slows down, Kamala will take up the slack.
President Harris has a nice ring to it.
And her deciding vote in a 50/50 Senate will cause conservatives to implode.
Stockpiling some popcorn for the circus.
US Marines: providing enemies of America an opportunity to die for their country since 1775.
What I say before any important decision.
F*ck it.
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: Originally posted by Mr. Bills | Thank you, Mr. Goat, for your most recent diatribe.
In one single post you have demonstrated that you are a complete idiot.
I trust that you are aware that Mexico is predominately Roman Catholic (82.7%) and that Mexican Catholics say the same mass each Sunday as Justice
Coney Barrett. |
The Catholic Church hid massive sex abuse by priests on boys. Why would any non-pedophile still be a member of the Catholic Church?
Twisted, sick people run the Catholic Church. They are still committing crimes, and church is still hiding the crimes.
Something is fundamentally wrong with Catholic Church...
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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Following Pope Folks in Cleric Clown Suits ...........
WHO can take seriously divine guidance from a bunch who look like refugees from a circus show.
"....... Really ? God told you to dress like that ?"
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As soon as I can cross I will and spend some money to help the wonderful people of Baja. Viva Baja....
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Why would the relationship change with Biden? Other than some BS at first nothing changed with Trump, nor with Obama, nor with Bush. I haven't seen
any real change in our relationship with Mexico since I moved to CA in 1978. Why would it change now. People still cross the border illegally. Ca has
an ever increasing Hispanic population. So what is new? Lib. Dem. still want to tax everything they can, that's not new.
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: Originally posted by TMW | | Why would the relationship change with Biden? Other than some BS at first nothing changed with Trump, nor with Obama, nor with Bush.
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Trump said so many bigoted thing toward Mexicans that I lost track. Words matter. Joe won’t preach hate like trump did. Joe won’t cultivate
racist hate groups like trump.
Joe won’t separate immigrant kids from parents and lock them up.
Joe won’t flock over the Dreamers.
Woke!
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will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | | Quote: Originally posted by TMW | | Why would the relationship change with Biden? Other than some BS at first nothing changed with Trump, nor with Obama, nor with Bush.
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Trump said so many bigoted thing toward Mexicans that I lost track. Words matter. Joe won’t preach hate like trump did. Joe won’t cultivate
racist hate groups like trump.
Joe won’t separate immigrant kids from parents and lock them up.
Joe won’t flock over the Dreamers.
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TMW, it sounds like you might not have an appreciation for just how little the Mexican people think of trump. they really have negative fellings
about der gropen fuhrer.
i hear negative stuff about impotus DAILY.
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Just keep posting BAJA content...
I keep trying to come up with interesting posts from the past, trip reports, history, photos... A few others do too.
Instead of complaining there isn't enough Baja posts, post some Baja stuff! Covid has killed most travel this past year so post up your old photos or
trip stories, please!
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| Quote: Originally posted by pacificobob |
TMW, it sounds like you might not have an appreciation for just how little the Mexican people think of trump. they really have negative fellings
about der gropen fuhrer.
i hear negative stuff about impotus DAILY. |
It doesn't matter what the Mexican people think of Trump, they have no say in what he does or did. Nor do they in what Biden says or does. It's how
they treat me that I care about. If they don't want me in Baja because of Trump so be it, I'll take my money elsewhere.
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reminds me about a book about a narcissistic opera singer.
I believe the title was " ME ME ME ME"
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