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San Basilio

HeyMulegeScott - 2-26-2021 at 11:00 AM

Anyone been out to San Bailio lately? According to their Facebook page it's closed to camping and the latest reports on iOverlander don't sound too great anyway. The cove north (Ensenada Puerto Almeja?) looks pretty amazing. Can you still camp there?

bajarich - 2-26-2021 at 12:52 PM

No recent info, but they did put a cable to block people from driving onto the beach. It was getting too crowded.

HeyMulegeScott - 2-26-2021 at 01:21 PM

Quote: Originally posted by bajarich  
No recent info, but they did put a cable to block people from driving onto the beach. It was getting too crowded.


That's San Basilio? This was the latest report on iOverlander -

February 21st, 2021 by CarpeViam Iconpopout
Devastating... when I found this place and shared it here, there were no fences, you could camp right on the beach, NOBODY was out here (maybe a Mexican fisherman once a week), the very picture of Baja isolation... now I cannot find a place to park, they have “happy hour”, people leave their gear to claim spots (even though there are so very few) and long termers have moved in... let this be a warning to anyone posting their gems on iOverlander, their days are numbered... the single biggest regret of my decade long overlanding career...

John Harper - 2-26-2021 at 01:35 PM

Quote: Originally posted by HeyMulegeScott  
let this be a warning to anyone posting their gems on iOverlander, their days are numbered... the single biggest regret of my decade long overlanding career...


And not the least bit surprising when you let the entire world know through the internet.

Overlanding has been around for a decade? What did we call it before then? Oh yeah, car camping.

John

[Edited on 2-26-2021 by John Harper]

bajarich - 2-26-2021 at 01:55 PM

I first drove into San Basilio in 1996 in my 2WD VW Vanagon. i wasn't sure I'd be able to make it back out. It was before there were any houses there. I'm glad I got to see it and camp on that beach as much as I did until they fenced it off.

HeyMulegeScott - 2-26-2021 at 08:50 PM

Quote: Originally posted by John Harper  


Overlanding has been around for a decade? What did we call it before then? Oh yeah, car camping.



Am I car camping or overlanding? No rooftop tent so I guess I'm car camping.



[Edited on 2-27-2021 by BajaNomad]

JZ - 2-27-2021 at 12:42 AM

More and more, you have to have a boat or a bike to see the good stuff.

Mulege Canuck - 2-27-2021 at 06:39 AM

San Basillo is a beautiful place. The problem is that a group of people go there and stay for months. That group (AKA “ The bonehead Society “) acts as if it is their personal property. They should make it a 1 week maximum stay. Self contained units have enough capacity in their black water tanks for that time so you don’t have to deal with the “sheeting fields” behind the beach.

I too, despise the term overlanding.

John Harper - 2-27-2021 at 07:04 AM

If having a rooftop tent is the defining characteristic of "overlanding," then let's just call it what it really is. Overpaying.

John

mtgoat666 - 2-27-2021 at 09:22 AM

An over-used high-density camp site with no sanitation. I am sure the desert here is a mine field of chit and TP and food waste.

When the wind blows, half the dust/particulate matter is feces.

Sounds lovely.

[Edited on 2-27-2021 by mtgoat666]

AKgringo - 2-27-2021 at 09:44 AM

Quote " I am sure the desert here is a mine field of chit and TP and food waste."

Do they need more chit eating coyotes there?

[Edited on 2-27-2021 by AKgringo]

Bajazly - 2-27-2021 at 10:06 AM

Quote: Originally posted by HeyMulegeScott  
...when I found this place and shared it here... ...NOBODY was out here... ...now I cannot find a place to park...


Who'd a thunk it? There is a lesson somewhere here but the iIdiots are probably to stupid to learn it anytime soon.

But hey, as long as the imbeciles get 10,000 plus likes to boost their fragile egos, no harm no foul right?

mtgoat666 - 2-27-2021 at 10:42 AM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  

Goat mentions sanitation as if norteamericanos are unclean and don't bury... When this land was home to tens of thousands of Indians, without flush toilets, was the land destroyed then? Nature takes care of these things. Humans are also a part of this planet... we belong here.


DK: don’t be an idiot!

RFClark - 2-27-2021 at 11:07 AM

The stretch of Hwy 1 from Santa Rosella south past Loretto has some of the best camping beaches in Baja Sur. They are always crowded in winter, especially on Mexican holidays. Often it’s difficult to find a place to park and The traffic on Hwy 1 is very heavy. A majority of the campers seem to be Mexican nationals however. With Easter approaching we’ll see who shows up during the Pandemic.

JZ - 2-28-2021 at 01:03 PM

Have flown the drone there filming it many times. The shots always come out so-so. I manage to always get poor lighting.

We have some good races back from the bay to Hwy1. It's a fun ride on the bikes.

Last time I was there we were playing music on my phone at the edge of the water. Talking normal. Some woman camping behind the wire sent her man down to tell us to be quiet. It was like 8pm and they were 300+ feet away. She must have had extremely good ears. We got back to the truck and bikes, and my MX friend let off 3 huge, ear piercing bottle rockets that echo'd all through the bay.


[Edited on 2-28-2021 by JZ]

HeyMulegeScott - 2-28-2021 at 01:06 PM

Quote: Originally posted by RFClark  
The stretch of Hwy 1 from Santa Rosella south past Loretto has some of the best camping beaches in Baja Sur. They are always crowded in winter, especially on Mexican holidays. Often it’s difficult to find a place to park and The traffic on Hwy 1 is very heavy. A majority of the campers seem to be Mexican nationals however. With Easter approaching we’ll see who shows up during the Pandemic.


I think your assessment of winter campers being majority Mexican nationals is as off as your spelling of the towns. :D Semana Santa is a different story. I saw La Paz was going to close their beaches but haven't heard anything about Mulege and Loreto.

motoged - 2-28-2021 at 01:15 PM

Quote: Originally posted by JZ  
.... We got back to the truck and bikes, and my MX friend let off 3 huge, ear piercing bottle rockets that echo'd all through the bay. F that gringa with a stick up her butt.

[Edited on 2-28-2021 by JZ]


That's a real classy act, there Buck :rolleyes:

JZ - 2-28-2021 at 01:21 PM

Quote: Originally posted by motoged  


That's a real classy act, there Buck :rolleyes:


You don't need to stalk me anymore. I'm sorry for whatever I did to upset you so badly and I promise to try to do better.

motoged - 2-28-2021 at 01:40 PM

"Stalking" you ???? Don't flatter yourself....just responding to a post about camping etiquette and basic decency.

Do you really think your behaviour in that "story" is what most Nomads would respect, admire, or support?

JZ - 2-28-2021 at 01:53 PM

Quote: Originally posted by motoged  
"Stalking" you ???? Don't flatter yourself....just responding to a post about camping etiquette and basic decency.

Do you really think your behaviour in that "story" is what most Nomads would respect, admire, or support?



Just checked in for the first time in 24 hrs, and 3 of the first 4 threads have you quoting me or talking about me. And you are calling me by a user name you found by scouring the internet to see what I'm up to. I'm pretty sure that's stalking.

I'll ignore you, you ignore me, ok? It's very likely no one on here wants to see the tit for tat. Again, sorry for aggravating you so much.



[Edited on 2-28-2021 by JZ]

motoged - 2-28-2021 at 02:01 PM

Sincere apologies tend to be followed up by a behavioural change....looking forward to that.

JZ - 2-28-2021 at 02:02 PM

Quote: Originally posted by motoged  
Sincere apologies tend to be followed up by a behavioural change....looking forward to that.


I'll do my best amigo.

RFClark - 2-28-2021 at 02:49 PM

“ I think your assessment of winter campers being majority Mexican nationals is as off as your spelling of the towns. :D Semana Santa is a different story. I saw La Paz was going to close their beaches but haven't heard anything about Mulege and Loreto”

Yes, incorrect spelling! I will have a very stern talk (in English) with Siri about that! She insists that “Loreto” has 2 “Ts” and “fixes it” when you’re not looking!

Having driven through and around that area during Sermana Santa and other times of the year, in my opinion a lot of the transient campers and road traffic was primarily Mexican Nationals.

We will be passing by the area the first of next month. We’ll post a report with pictures. (Thanks, DK!) As a result of Mexican Nationals being a majority of the travelers we pass, they are a majority of the people we see “watering the plants” along the roadside.

In the Cerritos Beach area pump trucks circulate emptying RV holding tanks. I can’t speak to other areas. Goat is correct in stating that some long term beach campers are not as “fastidious” as they could be, no group excluded from this observation. The “solution” (burning the trash) creates its own problems as noted here!

motoged - 2-28-2021 at 03:15 PM

David,
My reading comprehension skills are pretty good..... even noticed your dig at Canadian nationals jamming the beaches.

The issues at hand seem to be over-exposing places through viruses like "overlanders" and internet posts making secret spots not so secret.

A tune you probably will like:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfwN0X8YnWo

Skipjack Joe - 2-28-2021 at 03:40 PM

I have an image of the area that's damn good. But why show it and attract even more people. Especially ones that set off fireworks on that lovely beach.

David K - 2-28-2021 at 03:47 PM

Ged, you can't get anymore over-exposed than wall-to-wall campers (flying the maple leaf)... and that is not a jab... just a fact of life. It wouldn't matter to me what country vacations there, if Brazilian flags then that is what I would report. Canadians are some of the nicest people, and very polite, too. Well, at least all the ones I have met! ;)

RFClark - 2-28-2021 at 03:58 PM

David,

Canadians are far more protective of the environment at home. (Especially in B.C.) That and the temperature difference (Yes, I have camped in Canada, frost and all!) is why they go south. Currently Canadians are shipping there RVs across the border and then flying across to continue south in the US and Mexico!

JZ - 2-28-2021 at 04:40 PM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  


We already know you are an a$$hole, but thank you for reminding us! :P


Who is the a$$hole, the Mexican National who lit the fireworks or the Gringa who thought she had supreme authority while squatting at the entrance to the beach directly off the road.

To him, he felt like a foreigner was telling him to sit down and be quiet in his own country. Even when he wasn't making much noise. She basically said, I don't want to hear your make any noise on this public beach at all, this my beach.

Well, some Mexicans don't take too kindly to that. Personally, I'd never talk to one like they did to him. Maybe you would?



[Edited on 2-28-2021 by JZ]

motoged - 2-28-2021 at 04:53 PM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
.... Canadians are some of the nicest people, and very polite, too. Well, at least all the ones I have met! ;)


Two facts you mention.....yes, we have not met.:saint:

RFClark - 2-28-2021 at 05:33 PM

According to the article they go by truck or perhaps with a commercial driver. The border south from Canada seems open to both. The article stated that the owners fly access via air taxi. We haven’t seen too many Canadians going south on HWY5 but lots of Washington, Oregon and Idaho RVers!

AKgringo - 2-28-2021 at 05:55 PM

There were quite a few Canadians that were forced to store vehicles in Baja Sur and fly home last year when the borders closed. There are others that do that annually to save drive time, and petrol dollars.

mtgoat666 - 2-28-2021 at 07:24 PM

Quote: Originally posted by JZ  
Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  


We already know you are an a$$hole, but thank you for reminding us! :P


Who is the a$$hole, the Mexican National who lit the fireworks or the Gringa who thought she had supreme authority while squatting at the entrance to the beach directly off the road.

To him, he felt like a foreigner was telling him to sit down and be quiet in his own country. Even when he wasn't making much noise. She basically said, I don't want to hear your make any noise on this public beach at all, this my beach.

Well, some Mexicans don't take too kindly to that. Personally, I'd never talk to one like they did to him. Maybe you would?



[Edited on 2-28-2021 by JZ]


You are all a$$hats. The lady wanted quiet. Normal want for someone camping in rural area. You and your buddies then purposely annoyed her (and did it from a distance like a coward). You, your friends, your family, surely were all giggling and snickering as you annoyed her. You are all $$holes. Doesn’t matter your nationality. A$$holisim knows no borders.

RFClark - 2-28-2021 at 07:41 PM

Goat,

Just like the character out of Pogo! Lives in a hollow log with a sign out front that reads “Free Insults”!

JZ - 2-28-2021 at 07:50 PM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  

You are all a$$hats. The lady wanted quiet. Normal want for someone camping in rural area. You and your buddies then purposely annoyed her (and did it from a distance like a coward). You, your friends, your family, surely were all giggling and snickering as you annoyed her. You are all $$holes. Doesn’t matter your nationality. A$$holisim knows no borders.


Here is a shot I took just for you last night. Outside of Vegas. How's the view from the basement?



mtgoat666 - 2-28-2021 at 08:07 PM

Quote: Originally posted by JZ  
Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  

You are all a$$hats. The lady wanted quiet. Normal want for someone camping in rural area. You and your buddies then purposely annoyed her (and did it from a distance like a coward). You, your friends, your family, surely were all giggling and snickering as you annoyed her. You are all $$holes. Doesn’t matter your nationality. A$$holisim knows no borders.


Here is a shot I took just for you last night. Outside of Vegas. How's the view from the basement?




Vegas is a chithole. Why would anyone want to go there? Most depressing city in usa. I spent a year there for a project. The city is absolute chit, chitty schools, chitty communities, unrooted people. The casinos are depressing malls for entertaining the masses of lemmings.

JZ - 2-28-2021 at 09:04 PM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  


Vegas is a chithole. Why would anyone want to go there? Most depressing city in usa. I spent a year there for a project. The city is absolute chit, chitty schools, chitty communities, unrooted people. The casinos are depressing malls for entertaining the masses of lemmings.


Sounds like you never got outside the city to see the lake and desert? Shot this a couple hours ago on a hike up a big wash.

Btw, if you don't like to play poker until 6am every once in a while you haven't lived much of a life.

Still waiting for that basement pic?





[Edited on 3-1-2021 by JZ]

mtgoat666 - 2-28-2021 at 10:05 PM

Quote: Originally posted by JZ  
Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  


Vegas is a chithole. Why would anyone want to go there? Most depressing city in usa. I spent a year there for a project. The city is absolute chit, chitty schools, chitty communities, unrooted people. The casinos are depressing malls for entertaining the masses of lemmings.


Sounds like you never got outside the city to see the lake and desert. Shot this a couple hours ago on a hike.

Btw, if you don't like to play poker until 6am every once in a while you haven't lived much of a life.

Still waiting for that basement pic?



Shorty mcjizzy,
How do your short little stubby legs keep up with that dog on a hike? :?:

My patience for poker expires after an hour. And Gambling is stupid :light:
If playing poker in a casino turns your crank, I pity you for your wasted life :(

My house doesn’t have a basement :O :lol:



JZ - 2-28-2021 at 10:32 PM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  

Shorty mcjizzy,
How do your short little stubby legs keep up with that dog on a hike? :?:

My patience for poker expires after an hour. And Gambling is stupid :light:
If playing poker in a casino turns your crank, I pity you for your wasted life :(

My house doesn’t have a basement :O :lol:





On a more serious note, how did you not have enough control of your life to avoid being sent to a place you despised to work on a "project" for a year.

Did this event somehow jade 'lil Goat's view of life? Talk to us.





[Edited on 3-1-2021 by JZ]

RFClark - 2-28-2021 at 11:39 PM

Goat,

Speaking of “The view from the basement”! Did you vote for replacing the statue of “Iron Felix” in Lubyanka Square in the recent poll?

defrag4 - 3-1-2021 at 02:52 PM

too many territorial bozos this time of year, better in the shoulder seasons when you can have the place to yourself

yes you can camp on a portion of the north beach which is nice and usually empty, though if the winds blowing from the north its pretty chit over there

[Edited on 3-1-2021 by defrag4]

HeyMulegeScott - 3-1-2021 at 06:04 PM

Quote: Originally posted by defrag4  
too many territorial bozos this time of year, better in the shoulder seasons when you can have the place to yourself

yes you can camp on a portion of the north beach which is nice and usually empty, though if the winds blowing from the north its pretty chit over there

[Edited on 3-1-2021 by defrag4]


Thanks, amigo. Too bad about the bozos.

defrag4 - 3-1-2021 at 06:56 PM

Quote: Originally posted by HeyMulegeScott  
Quote: Originally posted by defrag4  
too many territorial bozos this time of year, better in the shoulder seasons when you can have the place to yourself

yes you can camp on a portion of the north beach which is nice and usually empty, though if the winds blowing from the north its pretty chit over there

[Edited on 3-1-2021 by defrag4]


Thanks, amigo. Too bad about the bozos.


damn internet ruining everything! its still an amazingly beautiful spot, worth the day trip even if you dont camp up

you used to at least have to talk to someone who had been there before to find the joint, now 30 seconds on an app and google maps can direct you straight there!

oh well, still plenty of other great spots still not blown out, i say keep em all in San Basilio so we can have the rest to ourselves!

[Edited on 3-2-2021 by defrag4]

motoged - 3-2-2021 at 12:16 AM

Quote: Originally posted by lencho  
....

More like the thoughtless, verborrhetic loudmouths using it (I won't mention names), but it comes out to the same thing. :rolleyes:


Oh, my! Bravo ! I'm stunsmacked lexiiplicitly wordmute by your verborrhetic verve here. ;)

motoged - 3-2-2021 at 03:10 PM

Lencho,
Certainly not an attack.....I was looking up the word "verborrhetic" and only found two links on Google....so the line I replied with is taken from that link....which appeared to be a poet forum....

So,appreciating word art and your use of the word....my post was meant to be appreciative of and applaud your cunninglingualism. :saint:

JZ - 3-2-2021 at 03:20 PM

I first read that as "applaud your cunnilingus." Lol.





[Edited on 3-2-2021 by JZ]