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Anyone in Baja have low CFE bill ?

bajatrailrider - 8-18-2022 at 11:59 AM

My CFE bill two months 143 pesos how can this be. Second story house 3 garages welders big AC one room . Except most of time no need for AC at night fan in window. Amigo has house next to me he is only here 1 1/2 weeks every two months . His bill 124 pesos good to be here .

Don Pisto - 8-18-2022 at 12:05 PM

after a dozen years averaging 140 peso's for 2 months my last bill went up to a whopping 250! I totally blame the air fryer.

bajatrailrider - 8-18-2022 at 12:09 PM

HAAAA good answer

msteve1014 - 8-18-2022 at 12:18 PM

my last one is is 225 pesos. I use fans, an electric water pump, and water heater.

bajatrailrider - 8-18-2022 at 01:14 PM

I to have electric w pump and water heater

Bajazly - 8-18-2022 at 02:09 PM

My last bill was 668 Kws for 304 pesos and my GF and kids were here for a good part of that month and they don't mind using the AC. They have not been here in over a month, I turn one AC on about 6 pm then turn it off when I go to bed and turn the one in the bedroom on and it runs till I get up, doing the same last month but with GF, kids.

Yesterday I went and paid the bill and it was 1666 Kws for 1103 pesos. I'm thinking there is no way I used 998 more Kws by myself this month. The funny thing is that last month they show a 1 month billing cycle but this month they show a 2 month billing cycle but do show the credit for payment last month.

I think on Monday they have some 'splainin to do on how they figure this. Maybe they need to make up for all the good deals they are giving elsewhere.

4x4abc - 8-18-2022 at 02:22 PM

Quote: Originally posted by bajatrailrider  
My CFE bill two months 143 pesos how can this be. Second story house 3 garages welders big AC one room . Except most of time no need for AC at night fan in window. Amigo has house next to me he is only here 1 1/2 weeks every two months . His bill 124 pesos good to be here .


show us a copy of your bill to better understand
CFE has quite a complex pricing structure

my last bill was $7,191 pesos (my airbnb guests run the AC 24/7)

mtgoat666 - 8-18-2022 at 02:30 PM

Quote: Originally posted by bajatrailrider  
My CFE bill two months 143 pesos how can this be. Second story house 3 garages welders big AC one room . Except most of time no need for AC at night fan in window. Amigo has house next to me he is only here 1 1/2 weeks every two months . His bill 124 pesos good to be here .


You are enjoying socialism! Somebody else is bearing the cost not billed to you.

pacificobob - 8-18-2022 at 04:38 PM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Quote: Originally posted by bajatrailrider  
My CFE bill two months 143 pesos how can this be. Second story house 3 garages welders big AC one room . Except most of time no need for AC at night fan in window. Amigo has house next to me he is only here 1 1/2 weeks every two months . His bill 124 pesos good to be here .


You are enjoying socialism! Somebody else is bearing the cost not billed to you.



Spot on goat

bajatrailrider - 8-18-2022 at 05:24 PM

Is that not great in CA it was 200.00 a month 15 years ago .

bajatrailrider - 8-18-2022 at 05:29 PM

Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
Quote: Originally posted by bajatrailrider  
My CFE bill two months 143 pesos how can this be. Second story house 3 garages welders big AC one room . Except most of time no need for AC at night fan in window. Amigo has house next to me he is only here 1 1/2 weeks every two months . His bill 124 pesos good to be here .


show us a copy of your bill to better understand
CFE has quite a complex pricing structure

my last bill was $7,191 pesos (my airbnb guests run the AC 24/7)
Then your over the allowed power paying hi price for power . Nextdoor to me he has big pool big hot tub big place he got a shock first two month bill. Problem fixed he stop service . Made new service another name put 4 services in . Much lower rates

AKgringo - 8-18-2022 at 05:44 PM

Quote: Originally posted by bajatrailrider  
Is that not great in CA it was 200.00 a month 15 years ago .


My PG&E bill this month was $37.15 for electricity, and $8.54 for natural gas.

I did get a CARE discount ($22.00) for being a senior citizen on a fixed retirement income, but I am also very conservative with my use.

[Edited on 8-19-2022 by AKgringo]

gnukid - 8-18-2022 at 08:17 PM

Some places have a summer high heat Aportacion, or Gov support for extreme heat and AC which can be 90% of the bill. Depending if you don't go over the rate during the rest of the year, the aportacion can continue year round. Check the bill closely and check CFE site to better understand.

BajaBlanca - 8-19-2022 at 02:45 AM

Ours, paid by our neighbor/manager in La Bocana, was the same low rate as usual.

gnukid - 8-19-2022 at 08:43 AM

Learn about CFE recibo, Tarifa and Multiplicador depending on region, usage, and history

https://app.cfe.mx/Aplicaciones/OTROS/Boletines/boletin?i=20...

https://app.cfe.mx/Aplicaciones/CCFE/Tarifas/Tarifas/Tarifas...

https://app.cfe.mx/aplicaciones/ccfe/tarifas/tarifas/tarifas...

https://app.cfe.mx/Aplicaciones/CCFE/Tarifas/TarifasCRECasa/...

bajatrailrider - 8-19-2022 at 09:09 AM

Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo  
Quote: Originally posted by bajatrailrider  
Is that not great in CA it was 200.00 a month 15 years ago .


My PG&E bill this month was $37.15 for electricity, and $8.54 for natural gas.

I did get a CARE discount ($22.00) for being a senior citizen on a fixed retirement income, but I am also very conservative with my use.

[Edited on 8-19-2022 by AKgringo]
I wish my living cost like yours. 21 years W.LA rancho park even the trash contract w city . At 66 bucks a month not good service in my city but free. Or 3 bucks for independent pick up. I think what got me the most angry. Mandatory dog lic 80 bucks a dog? I did in fact call them about that. Since I gave home to 3 homeless lage dogs. I asked what is the 80 bucks for? They said its for dog tag I then asked if my dog lost . You find then you call me with his tag return dog for free? :D they said no another 120 dollars you pick up. So a one dollar tag 80 bucks sorry you need do something for the money. Ok 21 years never PD dog lic.

Bajazly - 8-24-2022 at 07:08 PM

CFE are a bunch of bumbling idiots. they have no consistency between bills and how they calculate the bill.

One question I have is what is the "tarifa" for a house? My bill says 1F.
I know that makes a huge difference because the shop is GDMTO and it is a lot more spendy but I don't know what a house tarifa should be. It looks like they are doing my house bill as a commercial account and surprisingly, at the office they can't explain what is going on.

RFClark - 8-24-2022 at 07:35 PM

I don’t have a CFE bill. Today we charged the car and welded too!

Bajazly - 8-24-2022 at 08:21 PM

Quote: Originally posted by RFClark  
I don’t have a CFE bill. Today we charged the car and welded too!


Yeah, thanks for the input Mr Greenjeans but some of us don't have the means or the inkling to be all greenie goodie goodie two shoes. Im just wondering about my CFE tarifa and the link Lencho put up provided the answer, thanks Lencho.

Oh, and I weld and machine for as long as I want whenever I want on a 3 phase 460V system I built.

RFClark - 8-24-2022 at 08:26 PM

No choice but to live off the grid! No CFE around here! What do you have in the way of machine tools that require 3 phase 480 VAC. You fabricating shrimp trawlers?

Bajazly - 8-25-2022 at 09:52 AM

Quote: Originally posted by RFClark  
No choice but to live off the grid! No CFE around here! What do you have in the way of machine tools that require 3 phase 480 VAC. You fabricating shrimp trawlers?


Lincoln Precision Tig 275 welder, Haas CNC mill, Sheldon R 17 lathe, Cleereman DC 25 drilling machine, Bridgeport Mill, Omax Waterjet, Kaeser Aircenter, Kalamazoo horizontal band saw, sand blaster. Not gonna run any of that off batteries.

There is still a need for things to be made, sometimes even tree huggers need stuff the sun and wind can't provide.

RFClark - 8-25-2022 at 06:21 PM

Bajazly,

Nice! How ever did you get all that stuff to San Felipe? Usually when i need stuff fabricated I go to the welding/machine shop with the old 4X4 parked in the driveway. They do good work but lack a real mill. Do you do outside work?

I wouldn’t try to run that off of solar or CFE, probably use a 75-100 KW diesel MG set.

[Edited on 8-26-2022 by RFClark]

Bajazly - 8-26-2022 at 10:45 AM

Quote: Originally posted by RFClark  
Bajazly,

Nice! How ever did you get all that stuff to San Felipe? Usually when i need stuff fabricated I go to the welding/machine shop with the old 4X4 parked in the driveway. They do good work but lack a real mill. Do you do outside work?

I wouldn’t try to run that off of solar or CFE, probably use a 75-100 KW diesel MG set.

[Edited on 8-26-2022 by RFClark]


When I sold my business several years back, I got to keep all my "hobby shop" stuff I collected over the years and convinced them they really didn't need the small waterjet either.

Bought a container and a chassis, packed everything in it then trucked it down to Calexico where a friend who knew some people got it down to SF for me.

After dealing with CFE for a bit I did consider scraping that plan and getting a generator but I was kind of at the point on no return with CFE and it didn't make sense, well, good sense anyway. With diesel purchase, storage and upkeep on the ginny seemed like it could get a bit spendy and painful. I am paying average about $90 per month right now and the whole system from poles a block and a bit away into the shop was about 15K.

As of right now I don't have the waterjet running but I'm starting to get pretty motivated to get on that. The biggest barrier there is I need an 8 to 10 tonne chiller for both cooling the pump and input water to the intensifiers but just haven't looked very hard at getting one yet.

And yes, I will do whatever comes around, been doing metal fab for 35 plus years mostly in stainless and aluminum but most recently in steel primarily for desert racing/offroad use.

RFClark - 8-26-2022 at 11:06 AM

Bajazly,

I have a 2 ton water cooler (new old stock) sitting in my garage in San Felipe. I also have a large air compressor that’s a Ford V8 with 4 cylinders as the compressor.

Currently I need a ceiling mount vent hood about 30” X 48” (SS) for an island gas range discharge up through a flat concrete ceiling.

Bajazly - 8-26-2022 at 11:45 AM

Quote: Originally posted by RFClark  
Bajazly,

I have a 2 ton water cooler (new old stock) sitting in my garage in San Felipe. I also have a large air compressor that’s a Ford V8 with 4 cylinders as the compressor.

Currently I need a ceiling mount vent hood about 30” X 48” (SS) for an island gas range discharge up through a flat concrete ceiling.


Are you up this way now or soon or are you down south for good now?

RFClark - 8-26-2022 at 05:54 PM

B,

We’re down south for a few more days, be there 9/12 - 13. We’re at KM 46. We sold the house. We still have a small place with a big garage next door.

Bajazly - 8-27-2022 at 08:26 AM

Let me know when you get up here and we could meet up if you want, I'm always around.

RFClark - 8-27-2022 at 07:01 PM

OK!

advrider - 8-29-2022 at 08:41 AM

Bajazly, that's some nice hobby gear to have access too! Would love to check it out next time I'm in SF, I'll buy the beer! I'm building a 46 Chevy truck now but have built several jeeps. Never had cool tools like that.

Bajazly - 8-29-2022 at 09:58 AM

Quote: Originally posted by advrider  
Bajazly, that's some nice hobby gear to have access too! Would love to check it out next time I'm in SF, I'll buy the beer! I'm building a 46 Chevy truck now but have built several jeeps. Never had cool tools like that.


No prob. Let me know when you're around and stop in, I'm generally always around.

BajaBruno - 8-29-2022 at 02:49 PM

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My PG&E bill this month was $37.15 for electricity, and $8.54 for natural gas.
AKgringo[/rquote]

I guess you are conservative, AK. My summer PG&E bill was running over $300 a month before I bought a solar system.

AKgringo - 8-29-2022 at 04:04 PM

Quote: Originally posted by BajaBruno  
[rquote]
My PG&E bill this month was $37.15 for electricity, and $8.54 for natural gas.
AKgringo[/rquote]

I guess you are conservative, AK. My summer PG&E bill was running over $300 a month before I bought a solar system.


My bill would have been $22 more if I did not apply for the CARE discount. What is surprising is that this is an old house built in the late 30s, and added onto twice in the 50s as our family grew. There is no insulation in the walls!

The main body of the house is lath and plaster inside and out with a large masonry chimney and faced with petrified wood. Thermal mass takes a long time to heat up, or cool down, but with the active management of air flow (sort of on or off switch using windows and doors) the temperature is partially stabilized.

I don't have air conditioning, and although the house has a natural gas forced air furnace, I choose to heat with a wood stove conversion of the fireplace. My winter bill is about the same as summer.

The biggest energy hogs I have are the electric clothes dryer, and the ancient refrigerator that runs way too often. I live alone, and shade trees help take the heat off of the plaster walls during parts of the day.