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DizzyNick - 2-25-2023 at 05:25 PM

Hey all!
After weeks of research and the kind help of this forum and others I have compiled a route for my upcoming 2 week trip to Baja! There will be a handful of us all travelling on Husky 701 dual sports and this is our first time down. I would love the opinions of you guys on this route I have put together.
We are planning on going south (blue lines) down the west coast to La Paz then back up the east coast (green lines). The red lines are optional more challenging routes. Ignore the pins as they are just start and finish of individual tracks that I laid out or downloaded

https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=1-Vd8MoIAInut206y_XIp...

[Edited on 2-26-2023 by DizzyNick]

David K - 2-25-2023 at 05:42 PM

Wow, what an ambitious route!
Some of the mountain roads may be difficult or gone after the last hurricane, that was so damaging.
I hope you will share your trip photos and story with us when you get back.
Thank you.

AKgringo - 2-25-2023 at 05:59 PM

The section of your route that heads south from San Ignacio, then eastward toward Mulege is one that I have wanted to check out. I wound up not doing it because multiple contacts told me that there is a section that was not passable before the last typhoon (Kay).

I am looking forward to your report after you give it a go. Good luck, and I won't bother telling you to be careful. What fun would that be?

TMW - 2-25-2023 at 06:02 PM

Just at first glance The trail from San Ignacio to San Juanico is not possible. There is no road or trail where the top green pin is. It was wiped out by a hurricane in 2014. There has been some bikers get thru but they had to carry their bikes over part of it. That is the section SE of the label Rancho Nuevo.

TMW - 2-25-2023 at 06:16 PM

NOMAD Baja Blanca and her husband were taken to Rancho Las Tunas in 2014 after the hurricane and this is the route they took. They had a guide or the owner of the ranch took them there.




TMW - 2-25-2023 at 06:20 PM

The road was wiped out from Las Tunas to Guadalupe.

DizzyNick - 2-25-2023 at 07:37 PM

Thank you for the replies everyone! Yes it is an aggressive route and I doubt we will be able to do all the tracks I have laid out, but it's nice to know which ones are doable and then resort to taking main routes when we fall behind on time.

I was skeptical about the routes up the canyons south of San Ignacio as I heard they were damaged, but remained hopeful that they had been repaired. I've altered the map to reflect a change in the route, do you guys know if this will work?

I'll definitely be posting my trip here, although it won't be for a while as it's not until April

AKgringo - 2-25-2023 at 07:59 PM

The new route you posted south from San Ignacio will probably be no problem. There are many ranch roads through that area, so I am not sure if I took the exact combination of turns that you plotted out, but it was no great challenge in my Isuzu Trooper two years ago.


advrider - 2-25-2023 at 09:04 PM

There is another cool track to Mulege from the Pacific called Icehouse Road. Fun ride. It is just past the small town where you cross the river before Scorpion bay. Send me your number in a PM and I'll text you the track if you want it.

mtgoat666 - 2-25-2023 at 10:05 PM

Quote: Originally posted by DizzyNick  
Hey all!
After weeks of research and the kind help of this forum and others I have compiled a route for my upcoming 2 week trip to Baja! There will be a handful of us all travelling on Husky 701 dual sports and this is our first time down. I would love the opinions of you guys on this route I have put together.
We are planning on going south (blue lines) down the west coast to La Paz then back up the east coast (green lines). The red lines are optional more challenging routes. Ignore the pins as they are just start and finish of individual tracks that I laid out or downloaded

https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=1-Vd8MoIAInut206y_XIp...

[Edited on 2-26-2023 by DizzyNick]


Looks like a plan. If it does not work out, follow plan b!

[Edited on 2-26-2023 by mtgoat666]

MulegeAL - 2-26-2023 at 09:29 AM

There is no road anymore from the mission Guadelupe to San Jose de Magdalena, it is totally wiped out in the box canyon, and the approaches from either end are very rough rock, even by Baja standards.

The road north from rancho Guajademi jct to the pass at Chuparossa canyon has turned back into a mountain again due to severe hurricane damage. Expect very rough off-camber loose climb to the top and down the other side. Cannot recommend this route except to people I don't like (you not one of them).

I rode to the top of Chuparossa canyon about 2 weeks ago from Mulege side. Very rough tough loose rock the whole way up & down the canyon. I ride a XR600 full knobs here, many years.

Recommend the Ice house route from La Ballena east to Mulege, start from San Juanico. Turn east at La Ballena. Or, for more punishment, turn in at Cadaje and find the short cut over the mesa to same route.

Try not to get too stuck on through routes, most good rides around here are out and back trips, like the Bay of Conception penninsula for example. Or day loop to San Sebastian/San Nicholas.

Timing: when do you expect to be in the area here? I winter here, have tools, air, etc but no Husky parts, but will likely be gone by April.

Good luck with the Huskies, kinda heavy for the tough stuff here, hope you don't have big loads. Expect/plan for pinch flats!

You are smart for asking here, don't believe everything you find on maps or sites!

Also, one of you should bring a copy of the Baja California Road & Recreation Atlas. Best single map document available. Runs without internet! https://www.bajabound.com/baja-atlas

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TMW - 2-26-2023 at 10:01 AM

Will you guys have any type of communication devices in case of an emergency. Spot, sat phones, InReach etc. This is a pretty bold trip with much of it in the middle of no where, things do happen.

Also if you do then you should have one person that can coordinate your needs. That person should really be familiar with Baja. Too many people involved can create a log jam.


[Edited on 2-26-2023 by TMW]

JZ - 2-26-2023 at 10:32 AM

I've ridden most of those. I'd give it an A+.


Edit: ignore this. I just saw you have it on our route.

Biggest thing I would change for sure would be to go up the coast through the Seven Sisters instead of going inland. The beaches and bays are super sweet. You'd really be missing out if you bypassed them. It's a pretty easy ride. At the Northern end it gets a little rough in a truck, but easy on a bike.

I have tracks if you need them.








[Edited on 2-26-2023 by JZ]

JZ - 2-26-2023 at 10:47 AM

Here is another ride you might consider just below La Paz. Top 3 coastal ride in Baja. San Juan de Los Planes to Los Barriles.



JZ - 2-26-2023 at 10:52 AM

The view.


JZ - 2-26-2023 at 10:59 AM

Another super cool ride is below Agua Verde to Timbabichi / Puerto Gato.



JZ - 2-26-2023 at 11:02 AM

Puerto Gato.



[Edited on 2-26-2023 by JZ]

DizzyNick - 2-26-2023 at 11:25 AM

Quote: Originally posted by MulegeAL  
There is no road anymore from the mission Guadelupe to San Jose de Magdalena, it is totally wiped out in the box canyon, and the approaches from either end are very rough rock, even by Baja standards.

The road north from rancho Guajademi jct to the pass at Chuparossa canyon has turned back into a mountain again due to severe hurricane damage. Expect very rough off-camber loose climb to the top and down the other side. Cannot recommend this route except to people I don't like (you not one of them).

I rode to the top of Chuparossa canyon about 2 weeks ago from Mulege side. Very rough tough loose rock the whole way up & down the canyon. I ride a XR600 full knobs here, many years.

Recommend the Ice house route from La Ballena east to Mulege, start from San Juanico. Turn east at La Ballena. Or, for more punishment, turn in at Cadaje and find the short cut over the mesa to same route.

Try not to get too stuck on through routes, most good rides around here are out and back trips, like the Bay of Conception penninsula for example. Or day loop to San Sebastian/San Nicholas.

Timing: when do you expect to be in the area here? I winter here, have tools, air, etc but no Husky parts, but will likely be gone by April.

Good luck with the Huskies, kinda heavy for the tough stuff here, hope you don't have big loads. Expect/plan for pinch flats!

You are smart for asking here, don't believe everything you find on maps or sites!

Also, one of you should bring a copy of the Baja California Road & Recreation Atlas. Best single map document available. Runs without internet! https://www.bajabound.com/baja-atlas

[Edited on 2-26-2023 by MulegeAL]

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Thank you I have removed the loop around Guadalupe. It's too bad about the hurricane damage as I was really looking forward to exploring this area. I do not have a full gpx of the Ice House road, only approximate start and end. Can anyone help me out with this? Or even a screen shot of it and I can manually plot a route.

We will be in Baja from approx april 16 to april 30. If you are still around then we would love to meet up for a ride!

JZ - 2-26-2023 at 11:27 AM

Here is an alternative route that is East of yours going into El Rosario. It rides Haggy's Mesa. Never do it, but it looks like a lot of fun.





DizzyNick - 2-26-2023 at 11:33 AM

Quote: Originally posted by TMW  
Will you guys have any type of communication devices in case of an emergency. Spot, sat phones, InReach etc. This is a pretty bold trip with much of it in the middle of no where, things do happen.

Also if you do then you should have one person that can coordinate your needs. That person should really be familiar with Baja. Too many people involved can create a log jam.


[Edited on 2-26-2023 by TMW]


A few of us will have In Reach and Zoleo devices, and everyone will have the gps track on their phone/gps. Unfortunately we dont know anyone in baja, but we go out on several trips a year to remote areas and have grown accustomed to making "trail fixes":lol:

That being said we have agreed to "take it easy" this trip, which is a relative term I know!

MulegeAL - 2-26-2023 at 11:41 AM

It shows on your map in low light.

Start east at La Balleena.
Goes ne by San Raymundo, Los Panales, El Mezcal.
Stay east/straight at jct that goes N to Guadelupe.
Goes south of rancho Agua Agria.
Comes out of the mtns to your bullet on green track that goes ne to Mulege. Very scenic ride,

Driven every day by the local rancheros out there.

DizzyNick - 2-26-2023 at 11:58 AM

Quote: Originally posted by JZ  
Here is an alternative route that is East of yours going into El Rosario. It rides Haggy's Mesa. Never do it, but it looks like a lot of fun.






That looks awesome, I'm definitely adding that on my to do list!

JZ - 2-26-2023 at 12:00 PM

There is a YouTube video of guys riding bicycles on it. I searched but can't find it at the moment. It is bad azz.

DizzyNick - 2-26-2023 at 12:02 PM

Quote: Originally posted by JZ  
The view.



That looks amazing but I think at this point we will be lucky to make it to La Paz with enough time to return. I dont think we will get further than that. Maybe next trip though!

bajaric - 2-26-2023 at 12:03 PM

Dang! That is a lot of remote trail riding.

You appear to have an outstanding knowledge of GPS navigation, but even so should count on some extra miles on the trail as a result of taking a wrong turn at a fork in the road. It happens to everyone.

A low-tech backup navigation aid is a good addition to the electronic stuff. In a pinch, with a paper copy of the Benchmark atlas and an old Nuvi GPS you can find your current location by using a ruler to mark an X on the map from the latitude and longitude printed along the edge of the page. A compass can then be used to show the direction to your intended destination. The old Garmin Nuvis are super reliable and can be purchased for cheap on eBay. You don't need the built in maps, just the GPS function to determine latitude and longitude as a backup in case you primary GPS navigation system fails without warning, as they are prone to do at the worst possible time.

JZ - 2-26-2023 at 12:07 PM

For GPS I like Back Country Navigator and Gaia.

I prefer satellite view over topos. Both of them allow you to download satellite images for off-line use. It does take a lot of memory to download all of Baja. Time too. But well worth it. It's like you can see yourself riding on the trails.

You should consider handheld radios. Can get maybe a mile or so out of them. Baofeng makes good ones.





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DizzyNick - 2-26-2023 at 01:03 PM

I think we will be set for navigation between the group. some of us have Gaia, Garmin Explore, E32, and a handfull of other apps along with a couple Handheld GPS devices. The problem is even with all this access to information, we don't know what trails are do able and what trails are not!

DizzyNick - 2-26-2023 at 01:11 PM

One question that has been looming is this gpx track I have found, allegedly for the Bill Nichols Trail. However I have also found a different track also labeled Bill Nichols Trail. So my question is, is this the real one or something else?

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David K - 2-26-2023 at 02:26 PM

I wish these would open for me. Can you post a kmz file?
Bill Nichols made many m/c trails.

The first one, most know about is the Rock or Rockman Trail, from near Puertecitos west to Hwy. 1, north of Cataviña.

Another trail is to L.A. Bay without roads, parallel to the north of the paved road.

Another is south from El Rosario, then around that south region to Cataviña.

DizzyNick - 2-26-2023 at 02:35 PM



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David K - 2-26-2023 at 04:02 PM

Yes, that is the Bill Nichols Rock (or Rockman) Trail.

Here is a web page I made about it featuring a letter from 'slider' (Kevin Ward), with a track map from 'bajalou'.
https://vivabaja.com/the-bill-nichols-rock-trail/

advrider - 2-26-2023 at 04:17 PM

Rockman trail is workout on a 500, not sure I would do it on anything bigger. We did the haggy ridge trail a few years back and it was a blast. Doable on bigger bikes.

The other single track off of the two track from El Rosario is fun. I've heard it called the cactus trail. One of my favorites. I think I sent it to you?

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JZ - 2-26-2023 at 04:56 PM

Quote: Originally posted by advrider  
Rockman trail is workout on a 500, not sure I would do it on anything bigger. We did the haggy ridge trail a few years back and it was a blast. Doable on bigger bikes.

The other single track off of the two track from El Rosario is fun. I've heard it called the cactus trail. One of my favorites. I think I sent it to you?

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How difficult/dodgy was Haggy?


Bajazly - 2-26-2023 at 09:16 PM

Quote: Originally posted by DizzyNick  

Unfortunately we dont know anyone in baja...


Dizzy, I live in San Felipe and could offer support in a bad situation from say the border to Bahia de Los Angeles or a bit south. Not a bike guy but I could get to just about anywhere you are going that a truck could do. I have a trip to the states early April but will be back here on the 12th.

PM me if you want to talk.

DizzyNick - 3-10-2023 at 10:59 AM

Thanks everyone for your input!
After some talk amongst our group, we have made a timeline draft.
Once again I ask for your advice, and to reference the map posted earlier to see which way we will get to these destinations. We decided to cut out la paz in favor of spending multiple nights at other locations. Our biggest dilemma has been which places to spend more than one night at, so any input here would be great appreciated!


1 tecate to San filepe. Easy dirt 200kms
2 San filepe to San quintin. Easy dirt through the mountains 250kms
3 San Quentin to Catavina. Big ride day. Mixed beach, highway, dirt, single track 300kms
4 Catavina extra day
5 Catavina to Guerrero Negro. Big ride day. Single track, dirt roads, possibly highway at the end 300kms
6 Guerrero Negro to San Juanico. Easy ride day. Main routes. 300kms
7 San Juanico to Loredo. Fun ride day with beach stop at Agua Verde 200kms
8 loredo to Mulegé. More scenic roads. 250kms
9 Mulegé to Bahia Las Angeles. Big ride day, less travelled roads. 300kms
10 Bahia las Angeles extra day
11 Bahia las Angeles to Alfonsinas. Window rock trail, fun double track. 175km
12 Alfonsinas to ensenada or San Quintin
13 get to tecate

TMW - 3-10-2023 at 05:32 PM

I would let how everyone feels determine where I would spend an extra day or two. All the major towns have their + and -.