john - 4-10-2005 at 09:03 AM
does this road really go all the way through from la ventana to hwy 3 as it shows on the baja almanac?
canada arroyo grande
john - 4-10-2005 at 09:04 AM
does this road really go all the way through from la ventana to hwy 3 as it shows on the baja almanac?
Ken Cooke - 4-10-2005 at 10:17 AM
Our group opted for the Ejido Jose Saldana route. According to Neal Johns' route information, " "T", Road north goes to Ejido Jose Saldana and Tres
Pozos. Road right, across arroyo, up bank is washed out for 4WD on far side (there may be a way around this washout, it may be OK for bikes), is the
Pole Line Road and goes either to La Ventana or El Chinero on Hwy 5. Mileages are for El Chinero - assuming we get past the washout somehow.
Read the trip summary I posted in the 'trip reports' section of this webpage. I will also post a GPS plot-sheet to show you the image visually.
Thanks to BX for the data...
[Edited on 4-10-2005 by Ken Cooke]
john - 4-10-2005 at 11:03 AM
we did the pole line road last january. we went right at the T and followed arroyo grande north to a ranch and then went right to la ventana. were
doing the pole line road again next week. this time we will do it in reverse. san felipe to canyon diablo then from canyon diablo we want to head
north to hwy 3 at Choyall. from there on the map it shows a road north that will take you to arroyo grande this will then take you to the T junction
and we head up canada jaquegel. has anyone driven this stretch of road from hwy 3 to the T junction
bajalou - 4-10-2005 at 05:34 PM
John, if you're talking about crossing H3 at the bottom of San Matis Pass, the road there has a locked gate fight off H3. 4 years ago, the guy who
has a place a mile or so east on H 3 let us in and around to the road. Quite a trip bud didn't get to Arryo Grande.
Neal Johns - 4-10-2005 at 05:50 PM
Hi guys,
Arroyo Grande has a dam built across it a few miles north of where you enter it from the south. It is not possible to drive all the way through.
john - 4-10-2005 at 06:00 PM
thanks I thought I heard about the dam sometime before but wasnt sure
ArvadaGeorge - 4-10-2005 at 07:12 PM
I did that Route on a M/C several years ago we had to go around a dam and the road was hard to ride some places because of wash outs Then we came out
in some ones ranch on the wrong side of a corral they waved us around the yard.
When we got to Mex 3 the gate was locked had to back track and take a wash to the east.
I don?t think it can be done in a 4x4 or atv
arroyo grande
Barry A. - 4-11-2005 at 08:20 PM
I expected somebody to answer this question, but so far nobody has. I have always wondered, also. My understanding is that it certainly used to go all
the way thru, but I am no longer so sure it still does. I have heard that there is a rock dam in arroyo grande, purportedly to block the drug
smugglers, and there is no way around it except possibly with motorcycles. I don't personally know, tho. About 3 years ago, we tried to enter arroyo
grande from Mex 3 but there was a locked gate just off the highway, so gave up.
If you ever learn anything more about this route, please post it.
I hope somebody will post here, and let us both know. I would think that some of the San Felipe residents would have explored this route.
Barry A.
john - 4-11-2005 at 09:19 PM
barry I posted this also in the offroading section. check out the replys
Arthur - 4-12-2005 at 01:24 PM
Where's the Pole Line Road in the Almanac?
Barry A. - 4-12-2005 at 02:33 PM
Page 8 and 9.
Some of the access roads are not revealed in the Almanac, but roughly the road runs east and west from El Jamau pg 8 coordinates U-2-------------to
coordinates Y-2 on page 9 down Canada Jaquegel and Canada de Enmedio. This is really wild country. The dotted line in the Almanac may be the approx.
alignment------I have no real on the ground personal knowledge.
Barry
Arthur - 4-12-2005 at 03:09 PM
Thanks, Barry.
Redding, eh? Been up to Big Bend Hot Springs lately? That's one of my favorite places.
BIG BEND HOT SPRINGS
Barry A. - 4-12-2005 at 03:47 PM
Arthur----
We have been here in Redding for 15+ years and have never heard of Big Bend Hot Springs--------I was so puzzled that I looked it up on GOOGLE and low
and behold there it is. We will have to go take a look one of these days-----thanks for the heads up. (-: Barry
Arthur - 4-12-2005 at 03:57 PM
It's a fine place, and near some pretty nice country. It's been run by a variety of sects over the years, but it seems pretty stable -- and it's open
now. For awhile it wasn't. You can camp on the edge of a cliff right above the Pitt River, and there's hot water streaming into it from all over.
There's an unimproved spring, Indian Springs, a short walk downstream, and another one just a short drive back into the woods.