BajaNomad - Your favorite Baja Wine

Your favorite Baja Wine

elizabeth - 4-11-2005 at 02:25 PM

What's your favorite baja red and favorite baja white...all price ranges?

Casa da Piedra

The Gull - 4-11-2005 at 03:08 PM

Vino de Piedra - Their Red wine. $45

Mexitron - 4-11-2005 at 04:10 PM

Gull--what kind of red is Vino de Piedra? Is it comparable to a $45 bottle from, say, Paso Robles.

JESSE - 4-11-2005 at 07:25 PM

Mine is Chardonnay Piedra del Sol 2000.

Gypsy Jan - 4-11-2005 at 07:43 PM

Monte Xanic Mixto (Cabernet/Merlot?). Lovely, lovely consistent wine, an award winner in the Paris wine competitions. When we visited the winery last November with our houseguests, French winery owners, the winemaker sold our friends a special bottle of something that was done in a very small batch that had the Europeans excited. Our houseguests didn't share the bottle with us, just advised me (in hushed tones) to go back in the late summer of this year and see if I could get some.

I have heard very good things about Vinas Liceaga, Chateau Camou and Piedra, but don't have direct experience.

All of these wineries are located in the Guadalupe Valle, on the Ensenada/Tecate Highway 3.

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The Gull - 4-11-2005 at 08:25 PM

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Originally posted by Mexitron
Gull--what kind of red is Vino de Piedra? Is it comparable to a $45 bottle from, say, Paso Robles.

The diminshed case of 1997 Tinto I have is Cabernet and Tempranillo.

Paso Robles, any particular winery, year and grape?

Pompano - 4-11-2005 at 09:33 PM

Chateau el Martes Pasado....bold, yet charming.

Mexitron - 4-11-2005 at 10:24 PM

Gull--how about a bottle of Le Cuvier Pimiento Red --Paso Robles, or Domain Alfred Pinot Noir--Edna Valley/Chamisal Vineyard? Any year--they're all good!
What I'm wondering is if a $45 bottle from Guadalupe Valley is as good comparably to a similar priced wine in California.

The Gull - 4-12-2005 at 05:51 AM

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Originally posted by Mexitron
Gull--how about a bottle of Le Cuvier Pimiento Red --Paso Robles, or Domain Alfred Pinot Noir--Edna Valley/Chamisal Vineyard? Any year--they're all good!
What I'm wondering is if a $45 bottle from Guadalupe Valley is as good comparably to a similar priced wine in California.

Haven't tasted Pentimento as the quantities have not been large enough for me to acquire one.

Call it personal taste, but I have shied away from Domain Alfred Pinot Noir because of the unflitered, unfined nature of it. I used to get a significant portion of my wine that way, but as I get older, I like it clean. I have tasted the Pinot Noir and Piedras is definitely more complex.

It would be worth a trip out to the winery, they are pouring it. Hugo or Julio will likely be there. If not, you can find Hugo out with Don Miller at Adobe Guadalupe Vineyard. Also I agree with Gypsy Jan, a sampling of Monte Xanic as you pass it would also be a "must drink".

Spend $50 on gas and get a free taste of some great wine.

Mexitron - 4-12-2005 at 06:42 AM

Thanks for the info Gull.....by the way try the Pentimento if you get the chance--its a big fat luscious red, not as big as Ridge Montebello but darn good. I'll schedule a trip to Guadalupe Valley this winter.

Bruce R Leech - 4-12-2005 at 07:05 AM

Elizabeth I have been trying for the last 24 hours to come up with an answer for you on this thread but I cannot. the reason is the Baja wines are vary inconsistent in the quality and structure. once in a while I find one that is OK but it doesn't last long. I think you know that I am one who likes to support Baja and Mexican Products and business. but in this case I am guilty of buying foreign wines most of the time. in Mexico I like to drink the wines from chili and Argentina . the problem with the wines of Baja is not the grapes as they grow exultant grapes here . the problem lies in the making of the wine. you cant cut corners in making a fine wine. and the winemakers here are vary good at cutting corners and they pay for it in the quality of the product they produce. wine making is an art with a lot of science mixed in.

Bruce R Leech - 4-12-2005 at 07:19 AM

P.S. probably my favorite wine that I use for every day and for cooking is Gato Negro Cabernet or merlot.

Bruce

The Gull - 4-12-2005 at 07:21 AM

Los Vascos Cab from Chile. Very consistent. Cool price at $14

Try the Piedras anyway.

Bruce R Leech - 4-12-2005 at 07:31 AM

Gull I like that one vary much it is a good wine.it is real fruity and it has a beautiful finish.

from the Wine Bank in downtown

capt. mike - 4-12-2005 at 07:44 AM

SD i got a few bottles of LA Cetto's nebbollio, forget the year, think it was new - 2002 release, but it was around 7 or 8 bucks - i found it quite good and went back for a case expecting to cellar some and anticipating it would later drink like a $30 given some time - krapp - they were out! snooze.....lose.

Hey gypsy jan, next time i'd look for different house guests! :rolleyes:

I'd a shared....friends are more important than grape juice....

Bruce R Leech - 4-12-2005 at 08:07 AM

Mike where is Wine Bank in downtown? is that in cabo or something?

David K - 4-12-2005 at 08:16 AM

There will be Baja wine tasting at the Pyramid Resort Book Event on April 23 (noon-6)... Km. 57, free road, Plaza Del Mar south entrance, exit Toll Hwy. 1-D at Alistos/La Mision and drive north on the free road a km..

Bruce, its in downtown san diego

capt. mike - 4-12-2005 at 04:03 PM

by the gas lamp district, a very nice wine shoppe.

Roberto - 4-12-2005 at 06:34 PM

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Originally posted by Pompano
Chateau el Martes Pasado....bold, yet charming.

Dave - 4-12-2005 at 06:50 PM

Without a doubt, Duetto--Santo Tomas, 97,98?

Probably way overpriced now, originally $20. It was a joint venture with Wente Bros.

PabloS - 4-12-2005 at 08:27 PM

We cellared some LA Cetto's nebbollio for about 5 years, a 97 I believe and it was wonderfull stuff. :biggrin:

The Nebbiolo

Hook - 4-12-2005 at 09:02 PM

at LA Cetto is the only decent wine they have produced for a while, IMO. Buy only the ones they label riserva privada as the others are uninteresting.

I am pretty much in Bruce's camp.....Baja wines still need work. And they better get going cause Chile, Argentina and So. Africa are really starting to kick some serious butt.:moon:

To capt. mike; very perceptive;

Gypsy Jan - 4-13-2005 at 12:20 AM

you pointed out to me what I didn't realize: that my houseguests were condescending and ungrateful.

I am easily blindsided by these situations, I always want to believe in the best takes on the situation.

Eh, what else can I say?

gypsy Jan and Roger, er - i mean Pompano!

capt. mike - 4-13-2005 at 07:10 AM

well Jan, none of my biz naturally but i couldn't resist - maybe not best type friends but casual guests - but my read would have been stingy, ungrateful and not to be invited back!

and yes Pompano! Randy Dunn makes excellent wine, all be it mui expensive from his boutique winery in either napa or sonoma i recall - starting at around $50 a bottle. you do know he flies a jet comander turbo prop into serenidad, don't you? about a 2 million $$ puddle jumper!

a few years ago FLYING mag did a feature on wine country, vineyard owners/producers who fly as well - so Randy was featured. One day he lands at serenidad and i recognized him from the pictures in the mag - so i walk over and introduce myself as he is unloading people and baggage etc. well he is not friendly at all and i get the feeling i should just go away....later i find out why - he normally gets away with bringing large qtys of his juice down in the plane to stock his place etc - this trip the folks at mexicalli where he cleared in had a different idea this time, checked him out more thoroughly found much bottles over the limit of 3 liters PP import allowed AND MADE HIM LEAVE BEHIND A FEW CASES OF HIS VERY FINE $50 STUFF!!!!

SO YEAH - he was still burning from tthat and not in much of a good mood.

so now, when ever i see him i just smile and say, "hey Randy, how's the produce shaping up for this year?" :cool:

Skipjack Joe - 4-13-2005 at 12:11 PM

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Originally posted by Bruce R Leech
Elizabeth I have been trying for the last 24 hours to come up with an answer for you on this thread but I cannot. the reason is the Baja wines are vary inconsistent in the quality and structure. once in a while I find one that is OK but it doesn't last long. I think you know that I am one who likes to support Baja and Mexican Products and business. but in this case I am guilty of buying foreign wines most of the time. in Mexico I like to drink the wines from chili and Argentina . the problem with the wines of Baja is not the grapes as they grow exultant grapes here . the problem lies in the making of the wine. you cant cut corners in making a fine wine. and the winemakers here are vary good at cutting corners and they pay for it in the quality of the product they produce. wine making is an art with a lot of science mixed in.

What's gotten into you Bruce? Not a single spelling error!! Are you using one of them ghost writers now?

Pompano, maybe i can hook up with you

capt. mike - 4-13-2005 at 01:35 PM

both, Dunn, sometime and get to know etc. am sure he's good people....

and i like a bodacious full bodied "blonde" at times.... :cool:

Dave - 4-13-2005 at 04:57 PM

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Originally posted by Skipjack Joe

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What's gotten into you Bruce? Not a single spelling error!! Are you using one of them ghost writers now?

I count fore

elizabeth - 4-13-2005 at 09:08 PM

Actually, there was one spelling error...it's Chile, not chili...so you can be reassured it is really Bruce. :tumble:

Dave - 4-13-2005 at 10:03 PM

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Originally posted by elizabeth
Actually, there was one spelling error...it's Chile, not chili...so you can be reassured it is really Bruce. :tumble:

You're not looking vary closely.

CANT you see, Elizabeth? Look VARY hard.

The Gull - 4-14-2005 at 05:45 AM

elizabeth - 4-14-2005 at 09:03 AM

Ah, I see now...maybe Bruce meant that the wines vary inconsistent...instead of very inconsistent...a grammatical error!

capn.sharky - 4-14-2005 at 11:07 AM

My favorite is Coca Lite or Pepsi Light. Very fine tasting, no aftertaste and goes great with any kind of food. Won't switch ---been drinking it for over 25 years now. No trouble with the law, the little woman or anyone else.

Bruce R Leech - 4-14-2005 at 11:20 AM

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Originally posted by Dave

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Originally posted by Skipjack Joe

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What's gotten into you Bruce? Not a single spelling error!! Are you using one of them ghost writers now?

I count fore

sometimes when I'm lucky I can get Edith to check things for me :lol:

Dave - 4-14-2005 at 12:03 PM

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Originally posted by elizabeth
Ah, I see now...

Almost. Try opening the other eye. :yawn:

Anonymous - 4-14-2005 at 01:23 PM

O.k. You are right...I was definitely not looking closely enough, but in my own defense, I thought Bruce really meant exultant ...an odd word in that context, but you know how wine people get over descriptions of grapes! And...vary 2x...and cant instead of can't. Is that all?
elizabeth(Can't sign in here, when I don't sign off at home)

baja wines

Anonymous - 4-14-2005 at 05:09 PM

Santo Tomas cab sauvignon 2000 won gold in brussels. New winery, vinisterra, makes outstanding tempranillo and a blend of four that includes cab and merlot...it's the Macouzet label..i'm just beginning to learn about wines, so cannot be too insistent. just think it's worth trying these two, those of you who believe baja wines have a ways to go...

vinisterra is in san antonio de las minas, i believe, guadalupe valley. web site www.vinisterra.com

anon