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surabi
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My wife never renounced her Mexican citizenship
But she has never tried to validate it.
She only has a US passport
So, is she is isn't she???
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She is a Mexican citizen. Has dual citizenship. That's why they won't give her an FMM when they see a Jalisco birthplace on her US passport. She
doesn't need permission to enter or stay in Mexico. She would have to produce a document stating she renounced her Mex. citizenship to not be deemed a
Mexican citizen.
Of course she would need to submit paperwork to validate her citizenship if she wanted a passport or to purchase land in her name in coastal or border
areas, just like you need to submit paperwork if you are applying for a passport, or anything which requires citizenship, anywhere.
She would be smart to start the process of whatever she needs to do to get a Mexican passport. Once she has that, things like buying property would be
much easier.
[Edited on 11-10-2024 by surabi]
[Edited on 11-10-2024 by surabi]
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David K
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Goat, not just Baja Bound but the others as well who sell HDI, like Discover Baja and Ride Baja.
Let's be clear, every tourist should honor the rules and have an FMM. HDI will not refuse to pay if you happen to not have an FMM.
Remember, an FMM is no longer required for short visits in the border cities, either.
Things change, rules yesterday may not be rules today. Keeps things interesting.
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BooJumMan
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Beating a dead horse here, but, I just returned home from La Paz and was asked for FMM at San Ignacio yesterday. First time I've ever been asked for
one! Glad to have it stamped and ready to present to the very nice official. Then I was handed off to the military and proceeded to search my truck
for 30 mins 
In that pre-Google Earth and social media epoch, The Code was adhered to. It was based on a simple verity: if a locale had been transformational for
you, and you had put the hard yards in to get there and to learn it, to know it, why in god�s name would you broadcast the news, thus ruining the
future experience not only for yourself, but for future adventurers?
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: Originally posted by David K | Goat, not just Baja Bound but the others as well who sell HDI, like Discover Baja and Ride Baja.
Let's be clear, every tourist should honor the rules and have an FMM. HDI will not refuse to pay if you happen to not have an FMM.
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What the broker (salesman) says may differ from the insurer. Why risk it, get the fmm.
I dont think this is true…
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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David K
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | | Quote: Originally posted by David K | Goat, not just Baja Bound but the others as well who sell HDI, like Discover Baja and Ride Baja.
Let's be clear, every tourist should honor the rules and have an FMM. HDI will not refuse to pay if you happen to not have an FMM.
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What the broker (salesman) says may differ from the insurer. Why risk it, get the fmm.
I dont think this is true… |
From my advice on driving page at VivaBaja.com: https://vivabaja.com/advice-on-driving/
*NEW: In 2023, a 72-hour, FMM border zone exception was announced on a government website: ‘EmbraMex’.
EmbraMex Link: https://embamex.sre.gob.mx/eua/index.php/en/2016-04-09-20-40...
>>> All citizens of the United States must present a valid passport when entering Mexican territory by any means of transportation. There are
no exceptions for minors. Stays less than 72 hours within the border area, do not require an Official Entry Immigration Form (FMM).
Tourists <<<
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AKgringo
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None of the links I chased define, or outline the "border zone". A 72 hour permit is not much use to me, but I am curious about just where I could go
with one. 
[Edited on 11-11-2024 by AKgringo]
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David K
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At one time, it was to Maneadero or San Felipe... The border cities for sure. Since it was reported that INM was at the Hwy. 3 junction with Hwy. 5,
San Felipe can no longer be included... Not sure about Ensenada... but I doubt they will inspect people going there... ?
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: Originally posted by David K | | Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | | Quote: Originally posted by David K | Goat, not just Baja Bound but the others as well who sell HDI, like Discover Baja and Ride Baja.
Let's be clear, every tourist should honor the rules and have an FMM. HDI will not refuse to pay if you happen to not have an FMM.
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What the broker (salesman) says may differ from the insurer. Why risk it, get the fmm.
I dont think this is true… |
From my advice on driving page at VivaBaja.com: https://vivabaja.com/advice-on-driving/
*NEW: In 2023, a 72-hour, FMM border zone exception was announced on a government website: ‘EmbraMex’.
EmbraMex Link: https://embamex.sre.gob.mx/eua/index.php/en/2016-04-09-20-40...
>>> All citizens of the United States must present a valid passport when entering Mexican territory by any means of transportation. There are
no exceptions for minors. Stays less than 72 hours within the border area, do not require an Official Entry Immigration Form (FMM).
Tourists <<< |
Dk,
Can you link to the regulation? I doubt undated sentences, lacking source citation, on a non-INM website… you link doesnt even define border zone.
Surely, if this were true, there would be a statement and citation on INM website, eh?
Just a quick google finds this on bajabound website:
“ A tourist card (FMM) is required for all tourists who enter Mexico. Previously it was believed there was a tourist zone/72 hour exemption, but
this was never actually part of Mexican immigration law according to federal delegate Rudolfo Figueroa from INM (Mexican Immigration).”
Seems like the best advice is: get the fmm. In all cases.
[Edited on 11-11-2024 by mtgoat666]
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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David K
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As I always have, get the FMM. I always go beyond the border zone (almost always).
If you want to go to Tijuana for dinner, I think that you are safe without an FMM. In fact, if you tell INM that you are only going into Tijuana for a
few hours they won't issue an FMM.
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I saw a dentist in Lorwto who told me he'd heard that INM were checking peoples FMMs and asked if mine had been checked. It hadn't, but I saw as I
was driving north that INM had set up a large tent on the northbound lane as you leave Santa Rosalia. The guy inside was sitting in a chair using his
phone. He didn't look up and I didn't stop but I am guessing he'd have wanted to seemy FMM if he'd noticed my US plates.
I didn't have to shown it at San Ignacio and as usual the Guerrero Negro INM office appeared unstaffed
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