ligui
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This will go over well
The American president today said he is going to have the us military attack the cartels in Mexico on the ground.
If this happens I believe the cartels will then target Americans in Mexico !
There goes the Viva Baja feeling
Could become very dangerous for tourists and permanent residents
If he starts anything I'm considering selling all of my property in Mexico.
Actions without thought of consequences. 
Let's hear your opinions
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Tioloco
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Something needs to be done to stop the cartels. They are no longer limiting their business to the shipment of drugs. They are full scale in the
business of extortion and kidnapping. Mexican citizens are no longer able to live free and operate businesses without the imminent fear of being
victimized by the cartel thugs. This has grown like a cancer.
Your local tour boat operator, hotel owner, restaurant owner, etc are likely already or will be soon paying a fee to the cartels for "protection".
I don't foresee the cartel leadership being shortsighted enough to target American tourists in retaliation to an American operation. That would only
serve to ramp up American military involvement.
The "Hugs not Bullets" strategy has only assisted with the growth of the cartels and there seems to be no other strategy in play by the Mexican
government.
Abductions, murders, extortion, etc need to be stopped.
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Tommy A
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Let the fireworks begin!
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AKgringo
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Plata, or Plumo?
Accept their silver, or fear their lead!
I agree that US agents should not be conducting strikes in Mexico without working directly with Mexican authority. Unfortunately, I also believe that
Cartel influence through bribery or, extorsion, is present at all levels of their society!
I can visualize corrupt government agencies using US troops to wipe out a cartel that is a rival to the one that owns them.
As I have stated before, I am more concerned about some Cartel 'want to be' that does not meet their standards. I don't see that thug going to work
in a Walmart or Pemex after washing out of the mob!
Even if use of US troops in Mexico did not result in retaliation, widespread resentment would lead to a low level of enjoyment of my road trips!
[Edited on 1-9-2026 by AKgringo]
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Tioloco
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Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo  | Accept their silver, or fear their lead!
Even if use of US troops in Mexico did not result in retaliation, widespread resentment would lead to a low level of enjoyment of my road trips!
[Edited on 1-9-2026 by AKgringo] |
I can tell you that highway pirates can lead to a very low level of road trip enjoyment. Way too many recent cases of highway robberies with zero
government intervention. Something has to change and it doesn't appear the Mexican officials are capable of fixing it. Sheinbaum, like most other
politicians is controlled by the cartels. Sad but true.
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David K
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I think we have given Mexico plenty of time to stop the cartels and what they have done hasn't worked. Do you have another, better idea?
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chippy
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More saber rattling from the "peace president" or should I say POS president.
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Tioloco
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Yeah, that peaceful policy of Sheinbaum's is working GREAT!
for the criminals.
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mtgoat666
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Quote: Originally posted by David K  | | I think we have given Mexico plenty of time to stop the cartels and what they have done hasn't worked. Do you have another, better idea?
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Better idea is to Respect the sovereignty of mexico. If trump has an issue with drug deaths, then maybe he should police the American citizen drug
users and domestic American citizen dealers. ICE agents should be converted into DEA agents, and should chase drug users and dealers instead of
chasing restaurant workers and construction workers.
Woke!
Hands off!
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will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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surabi
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Saber rattling about invading other countries is a designed to distract people from the disastrous state of domestic affairs. Upset about the economy,
govt. cover-ups of criminal acts, quid pro quo pardoning of convicted criminals, gutting of environmental protections, law enforcement terrorizing
your own citizenry?
Oh, look over here- we're gonna invade other countries and take whatever we want! Isn't that exciting!
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It's funny to watch some people care more about their ability to take vacations in MX or live cheaply in MX.
Than they care about the incredible violence the cartels are inflicting on the Mexican population.
The same people tell us every day how we should help people in need. But it's always with someone else's money. 
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