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[*] posted on 9-8-2005 at 10:49 AM
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A crazy girlfriend had a yugo she rolled one morning and called me. I rushed over(near her house) and she was not shook up at all. In fact she only called for me to help roll it back up. She got in it , said thanks and went on to the store.
I don't think she ever fixed the slight(believe it or not)damage. She did slow down going around corners.
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[*] posted on 9-9-2005 at 08:58 PM


had 5 flats on that same stretch of road with Kelly off road tires..
Had two spares and the other three were pluggable
That was 5 sets of bfg's , and three Toyotas ago..One flat since, a nail at a work site...I aint switchin!!

Is there another triple side wall tire out there that is better???Iwould like to know..
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[*] posted on 9-9-2005 at 09:34 PM


The Goodyear Wrangler 3 ply sidewall tire is supposted to be good, but I will stick to BFGs - a three decade habit, my first All Terrain's were a set of bias ones on an FJ-40.



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[*] posted on 9-10-2005 at 08:05 AM


Has anyone ever used lighter fluid to pop a tire back on the rim? A couple of truck drivers were telling me how they did it. Take lighter fluid and squirt it into the tire then throw a match in it and bang. I've never tried it.
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[*] posted on 9-10-2005 at 10:16 AM


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Has anyone ever used lighter fluid to pop a tire back on the rim? A couple of truck drivers were telling me how they did it. Take lighter fluid and squirt it into the tire then throw a match in it and bang. I've never tried it.


Had to do that once in San Luis Gonzaga in the early 1980's with my dad. We had patched a hole on his large Michelin tires, but b/c of the stiff sidewalls could not get the bead reseated no matter what we did, soap, a rope around the tread, lots of air, hitting with hammers, jumping on it with air attached, etc....

A Mexican came up from town and suggested we try the "Mexican method": lighter fluid and a match. We were skeptical, but decided to give it a try. We used Coleman white gas (and if you try this at home, kids, you should too as lighter fluid no longer has the explosive power it did in the past).

We poured a very small amount < 1-2 ounces around the bead, made a trail of fuel at least 10 feet long as a fuse. My dad had us all stand so we were shielded by the truck, he lit the trail and ran behind the truck too....and POW! the bead was seated with no damage to the rim or the tire.

In theory, there is not enough oxygen in the tire to cause an explosion large enough to blow up rim or the tire, at least with steel rims. I would suggest using this method as a last resort though, as we did.
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[*] posted on 9-21-2005 at 08:48 AM


Once you've been throught it a few times changing rims can be pretty easy. I use vaseline to lubricate the rim - use some type of lubricant or you'll probably mess up the rubber on the bead. You can use one of those ratchet strap deals to squeeze the thread to remount. Gasoline works fine to set the bead if necessary.

Cars used to come with a straight tire iron/lug wrench - they're ideal for popping the tire on or off. I try to have one with me.

The main problem usually is having a decent pump that will put out enough volume of air to set bead.
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[*] posted on 9-22-2005 at 11:56 AM


On my old PW I changed the tires by hand for many years because of their size most tire changing machines wouldn't work.
My trick was to use a come-along wrapped around the tire with 4-6 small blocks of wood placed between the cable and tire. This works excellent for squeezing the bead out far enough to get the bead seated.
Always take the valve-stem out if you can so as to increase the volume of air entering the tire. It can be a real bear with a little tire inflator that moves little air but claims high PSI. Don't be fooled.
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[*] posted on 11-9-2005 at 01:45 PM


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Has anyone ever used lighter fluid to pop a tire back on the rim? A couple of truck drivers were telling me how they did it. Take lighter fluid and squirt it into the tire then throw a match in it and bang. I've never tried it.


Had to do that once in San Luis Gonzaga in the early 1980's with my dad. We had patched a hole on his large Michelin tires, but b/c of the stiff sidewalls could not get the bead reseated no matter what we did, soap, a rope around the tread, lots of air, hitting with hammers, jumping on it with air attached, etc....

A Mexican came up from town and suggested we try the "Mexican method": lighter fluid and a match. We were skeptical, but decided to give it a try. We used Coleman white gas (and if you try this at home, kids, you should too as lighter fluid no longer has the explosive power it did in the past).

We poured a very small amount < 1-2 ounces around the bead, made a trail of fuel at least 10 feet long as a fuse. My dad had us all stand so we were shielded by the truck, he lit the trail and ran behind the truck too....and POW! the bead was seated with no damage to the rim or the tire.

In theory, there is not enough oxygen in the tire to cause an explosion large enough to blow up rim or the tire, at least with steel rims. I would suggest using this method as a last resort though, as we did.


We've used the same method several times. We used starter fluid and it really works like a charm.
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[*] posted on 11-9-2005 at 02:12 PM


I didn't see this in this thread, I might have missed it, but Safety Seal makes a great off-road tire plug kit. The punctures decribed in the first post were pretty severe though, not sure of this would have worked or not. Just throwing it out there.
http://www.safetyseal.com/store/offroad.htm
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[*] posted on 11-9-2005 at 04:20 PM


A friend who had a small trucking company in Fremont CA always beaded the tries with gasoline.



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