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Marie-Rose
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Got me!!! 
Damn I hate it when that happens!!
I still would really like to know what that little guy was/is. He's roaming around somewhere on the property!!
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Don Alley
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I since had surgery on this hand.
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Dave
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Marie-Rose
I still would really like to know what that little guy was/is. He's roaming around somewhere on the property!!
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Yeah, probably in your bedcovers. 
You let it go???
Next time, kill it! It could be harmless but why take a chance?
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| Quote: | | Quote: | | Quote: | Originally posted by Marie-Rose
I still would really like to know what that little guy was/is. He's roaming around somewhere on the property!! |
As I posted earlier and with close to 30 years experience as a field entomologist, it looks like a lepidopterus larva (Insect Order: Lepidoptera =
butterflies and moths) by the three sets of pro-legs and drab (cryptic) color. I would bet dollars to donuts that it is probably a HARMLESS moth
species. If you want a definitive answer, post better photos.
Chupa-cabras and water scorpions? I don't think so, but an entertaining notion. 
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Originally posted by Dave
Next time, kill it! It could be harmless but why take a chance? |
Entomophobia rears it's ugly head. 
[Edited on 01/01/06 by bugdude]
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bajajudy
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Just saw this on El Universal front page
Monarchs:
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Al G
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"An ancient species of water scorpion, a six-legged creature called Hibbertopterus, was about 5 feet long and 3 feet wide, and died out about 250
million years ago."
Whoa! Not gonna miss that guy. To big for a teQulia worm anyway.
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I was very intrigued by the unknown creature and looked through all of my resources - finallly I called my ex-student who teaches entomology at Cal
State Fullerton - Originally he went for a sphinx moth larvae as did Bugdude, but the forked tail indicates a large syrphid fly larvae that is in this
area and feeds on cactus - he is very interested in the specimen alive or dead - preserve in 50% isopropyl alcohol or freeze it - hope that sdhed some
light on it - Marv
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| Quote: | Originally posted by marv sherrill
The forked tail indicates a large syrphid fly larvae that is in this area and feeds on cactus. |
I wasn't really satisfied with that suggestion so I emailed the photo to a colleague at the University of California, Riverside, Department of
Entomology, and his assessment was a larva of a Hackberry Butterfly (photo[s] below) or Tawny Emperor (genus Asterocampa). Larvae in the subfamily
Apaturinae frequently have pointy head projections like that.
[Edited on 01/01/06 by bugdude]
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Marie-Rose
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I will definitely keep my eyes open for him/her and if I spot him I will keep him for better "show and tell". Both Frizkie and I are reluctant to
kill anything for no reason but I could do it for science...or if I thought he might come back to haunt me!!!! Managed to get the scorpion at the
door step without too much grief!
[Edited on 2006-1-24 by Marie-Rose]
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Marie-Rose:
I like your philosophy. BRAVO!
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bugdude
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Larva of a Hackberry Butterfly or Tawny Emperor (genus Asterocampa) - see comments in post above.
[Edited on 01/01/06 by bugdude]
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Marie-Rose
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That is definitely what the tail looked like Bajadude!!! His head was really different though
and the body seemed to be "smoother" looking. The color is that same, without the white.
Butterflies I can never get enough off!!
[Edited on 2006-1-25 by Marie-Rose]
[Edited on 2006-1-25 by Marie-Rose]
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bugdude
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Marie-Rose:
Here is another photo of a Hackberry Butterfly larva:
[Edited on 01/01/06 by bugdude]
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marv sherrill
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Good job - I think you've got it! That last photo looks great - I like the bicycle helmet head!!
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Marie-Rose
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YES!!!!
That is it!!!! Frizkie never checks bajanomads while on the road but I will get her to check it out!! Thanks guys!!! (I'm so glad we set him
loose!!)
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YUP!! That is it alright!!! Bajadude you got it!! Thanks for your input.
I had never seen a caterpillar with a bike helmet on before so he kinda caught my eye...crazy little guy!!
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frizkie
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NATALIE!!!
I will be looking forward to seeing you soon. Our last visit was far too short.
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Marie-Rose, frizkie:
De nada, con gusto.
You didn't mention where you encountered the larva (i.e., Baja or Canada).
There is one species of Hackberry Butterfly that occurs in B.C.S.: Asterocampa leilia.
This link will fill you in on the biology, ecology and distribution of this species including another photo of the adult - if you are curious:
http://www.npwrc.usgs.gov/resource/distr/lepid/bflyusa/mx/42...
I highly recommend the Butterflies of North America website (which includes northern Mexico and Baja California) for questions on other butterflies
you might encounter:
http://www.npwrc.usgs.gov/resource/distr/lepid/bflyusa/bflyu...
?Buena suerte!
[Edited on 01/01/06 by bugdude]
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Marie-Rose
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We were in Todos Santos when our paths met! Thanks for the references!!
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