Tomas Tierra
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In trouble for taking shellfish??
I know as gringos we're not supposed to take ANY shellfish.
Are there any Nomads out there willing to share stories about getting into trouble for this?? Or er, um stories of their "friends" who have gotten
into trouble for this.
I'm not talking intestinal or gastric trouble, I'm talkin trouble with the law.
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aquaholic
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...jeez...take a few & enjoy...over the years I've seen too many buckets of clams die & tossed and buckets of lobsters being trotted down the
beach & being given away...
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Loretana
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Taking Shellfish
Back in the mid 80's we lived in San Carlos, Sonora.
My husband and I are avid divers, and could beach dive from our little house in the Bahia.
There were Legions of beautiful "bugs" out in the rocks and we usually dove from around midnight to the wee morning hours, depending on the
size of the moon.
A dozen nice rock lobsters was our usual take, and we would get so excited about the bugs that we would leave all the dive gear, tanks, etc. out on
the lawn, planning to rinse the gear down as soon as the garlic butter was melted, and the lobster tails were cooked to rosy-red perfection!
My friendly and accomodating local Patrulla would come by and knock on the gate to remind us the dive gear was outside. They would stand around and
chat with my old man while I ran in and put four or five fat tails in a zip lock for the Comandante's breakfast. 
They never said a word about the regulations.
Ni una palabra. 
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jerry
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i usally take a mexican friend or 2 and injoy the whole experence and sharing the booty
jerry and judi
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Don Alley
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| Quote: | Originally posted by soulpatch
I think the law can be interpreted a few different ways. My understanding is that if you are a Mexican resident you can take shellfish. If you have a
temporary residency permit are you not a resident?
Methinks so. |
If you have an FM3, you still need a license to fish. And that license specifically allows only finfish to be taken. Clamming? Illegal. Catching
Humbolt squid? Technically illegal, they are not a finfish. Collecting seashells? That's against the law.
But there's local custom. You can do these things, most places, and as long as they are done in moderation you'll have no problem. I've never heard of
anyone near Loreto having a problem taking a few clams or lobsters. But Baja is growing and changing, so local custom may change.
Now, I have heard that on the Pacific side, where commercial lobster and abalone diving is important to the local economy, the co-ops are vigilant in
protecting the shellfish from unauthorized taking.
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tim40
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Have taken shell fish for many years all over Baja for personal consumption. I have done in public view at all times, I have never had anything other
than well wishes. Technically, not allowed true, but never had an issue and have zero intent in stopping.
When searching for the end of your rainbow you only have until dusk....
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QuePasaBaja
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We just balme it on our son. So what that he is only 15 months old.
He is still a citizen.
Have a Baja Day
QuePasaBaja
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cristobal
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Lobsters without the correct paperwork
A good 10 years ago LUPE ARCE, a fisherman living in PUNTA EUGENIA, was going to a party in ENSENADA and was supposed to bring a dozen Lobsters. He
went out that morning in his ponga to do like he did every day to check his traps and bring back the legal sized bugs.
He was a little late getting back in and getting ready to head North for the long drive. As he passed thru BAHIA TORTUGAS the office was closed that
gave the GIAS (receipts) for lobsters or any other shellfish in your possession. Hey ... no problem ... LUPE was the fisherman that cought the
lobsters. Since when can't mexicans have Lobsters in their possession.?????? Those laws are only for GRINGOS ... right ...???? wrong ...
The first check point heading North from VIZCAINO, the guy that stopped him asked all of the usual questions .... including ... what is in those two
boxes in the back of your truck ...??? LUPE told him ... just a dozen lobsters that I cought this morning for a party in ENSENADA.
LUPE had to continue North with two EMPTY boxes because he didn't have the proper receipt to carry those lobsters in his truck.
Guess what they ate for dinner at that check point ...????
You guessed it ....a dozen fresh lobster ... caught that morning off PUNTA EUGENIA.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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David K
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Man, is it good to see you posting again Cristobal!
Please email me so I can make sure you have all the details for the next Viva Baja party, which I hope you can join us for! info*at*vivabaja.com
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Bruce R Leech
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| Quote: | Originally posted by soulpatch
I think the law can be interpreted a few different ways. My understanding is that if you are a Mexican resident you can take shellfish. If you have a
temporary residency permit are you not a resident?
Methinks so. |
dont try it
I now several Mexicans that have lost there pangas and all equipment and received stiff fines for taking shell fish without a commercial license.
Bruce R Leech
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