BajaNomad
Not logged in [Login - Register]

Go To Bottom
Printable Version  
Author: Subject: Border crossing card may cost $20
SUNDOG
Nomad
**




Posts: 176
Registered: 8-9-2006
Location: Baja
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 10-19-2006 at 08:22 AM
Border crossing card may cost $20


Border crossing card may cost $20
Full roll-out of plan expected by June 2009







Mike Madden
Desert Sun Washington Bureau
October 18, 2006

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
WASHINGTON - People who frequently travel back and forth between the United States and Mexico or Canada would pay $20 for a new credit card-sized travel document they could use instead of a passport under a new government proposal.
By June 2009, all U.S. citizens will need a passport or the new card to enter the country from Mexico or Canada. Mexican and Canadian citizens will need similar documents their countries will produce.

The State Department proposed the card and its fee schedule Tuesday, and officials will take comments from the public for two months before moving ahead with production.

The cards would use radio technology that would allow Customs and Border Protection officers to read them from about 20 feet away. Passengers in a car driving across the border, for example, could have their information scanned without getting out.

Rosalio Plata, who owns an insurance company in Cathedral City, travels once a month to Mexico. The new mini-passport, he said, will just add another level of bureaucracy to an already cumbersome and expensive process.

"I have a passport," he said. "I don't think I need this other one. It's just something else you've got to carry."

Border community residents feared it could be an expensive and logistically taxing burden, but the State Department proposal eased some worries.

Officials had said earlier this year the card might cost as much as $50, about half the price of a passport. Tuesday's proposal cut that to $20 for adults and $10 for children under 16. Citizens could apply for the cards at the same time they apply for passports. New applications would cost another $25 to pay for security background checks.
View user's profile Visit user's homepage
Al G
Ultra Nomad
*****




Posts: 2647
Registered: 12-19-2004
Location: Todos Santos/Full time for now...
Member Is Offline

Mood: Wondering what is next???

[*] posted on 10-19-2006 at 08:36 AM


I am all for something to speed up border crossing. The one thing I would suggest is the issue them in a radio blocking sleeve to prevent someone with bad intentions from Identifying you.



Albert G
Remember, if you haven\'t got a smile on your face and laughter in your heart, then you are just a sour old fart!....


The most precious thing we have is life, yet it has absolutely no trade-in value.
View user's profile
MrBillM
Platinum Nomad
********




Posts: 21656
Registered: 8-20-2003
Location: Out and About
Member Is Offline

Mood: It's a Zip-a-Dee-Doo-Dah Day

[*] posted on 10-19-2006 at 09:08 AM
Supply and Demand


Never Fear. There is no doubt that one or more entrepreneurs will market metallic sleeves quickly once the cards become commonplace.
View user's profile
Cypress
Elite Nomad
******




Posts: 7641
Registered: 3-12-2006
Location: on the bayou
Member Is Offline

Mood: undecided

[*] posted on 10-19-2006 at 09:44 AM


Passports. Border crossing card?:?: Drivers license. What's next?:?: A notarized statement of intent with a $20 bill attached?:O
View user's profile
Bruce R Leech
Elite Nomad
******


Avatar


Posts: 6796
Registered: 9-20-2004
Location: Ensenada formerly Mulege
Member Is Offline

Mood: A lot cooler than Mulege

[*] posted on 10-19-2006 at 09:45 AM


20 bucks is cheep Ill take 4



Bruce R Leech
Ensenada

View user's profile
lewm
Junior Nomad
*




Posts: 50
Registered: 11-9-2003
Location: Montana
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 10-19-2006 at 11:15 AM
secondary


I'm sure they would still have the opportunity from 20 feet to send you to secondary with or without the new card.
View user's profile
Hook
Elite Nomad
******




Posts: 9010
Registered: 3-13-2004
Location: Sonora
Member Is Offline

Mood: Inquisitive

[*] posted on 10-19-2006 at 11:39 AM


As a passport owner, I would hope that these new cards would not give the possessors more of an advantage in crossing speed. Not fair! And I dont want to have to buy one in addition to a passport to get any benes the card provides.

Sounds like another government cash cow......
View user's profile
Martyman
Super Nomad
****




Posts: 1904
Registered: 9-10-2004
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 10-19-2006 at 11:55 AM


I could probably buy one of those cards while waiting in line at the border, along with a black velvet painting of Miguel Jackson!
View user's profile
Don Alley
Super Nomad
****


Avatar


Posts: 1997
Registered: 12-4-2003
Location: Loreto
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 10-19-2006 at 02:03 PM


Quote:
Originally posted by Martyman
I could probably buy one of those cards while waiting in line at the border, along with a black velvet painting of Miguel Jackson!


Yeah, and as you approach the border, inside the booth the computer screen will show a photo of Michael Jackson. Then they send you to secondary. Can you moonwalk?:biggrin:
View user's profile
Martyman
Super Nomad
****




Posts: 1904
Registered: 9-10-2004
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 10-20-2006 at 01:58 PM


I can moonwalk, I can cakewalk, I'll walk a mile for a Herradura.
View user's profile
BajaWarrior
Super Nomad
****




Posts: 2307
Registered: 9-27-2006
Location: Mission Bay, San Diego. Playa Hermosa, San Felipe.
Member Is Offline

Mood: Anxious to get south

[*] posted on 10-22-2006 at 07:47 AM
Passports delayed until June 2009


Border 'passport cards' could cost $20
Updated 10/17/2006 9:05 PM ET

USA Today

By Mike Madden, Gannett News Service
WASHINGTON — People who frequently go back and forth between the U.S. and Mexico or Canada would pay $20 for a new credit card-sized travel document they could use instead of a passport under a new government proposal.
By June 2009, all U.S. citizens will need a passport or the new card to enter the country from Mexico or Canada. Mexican and Canadian citizens will need similar documents their countries will produce. The State Department proposed the card and its fee schedule Tuesday, and officials will take comments from the public for two months before moving ahead with production.
The cards would use radio technology that would allow Customs and Border Protection officers to read them from about 20 feet away. Passengers in a car driving across the border, for example, could have their information scanned without getting out.
Border community residents had feared the passport requirement would prove to be an expensive and logistically taxing burden, but the State Department proposal eased some worries.
"Having a passport card is what we'd been advocating as something that would be ... an easier alternative to a passport," said Jared Peterson, a spokesman for the Border Trade Alliance, a group based in Phoenix. "Is it going to be affordable for people? Off the top of my head, it seems reasonable."
Officials had said earlier this year the card might cost as much as $50, about half the price of a passport. Tuesday's proposal cut that to $20 for adults and $10 for children under 16. Citizens could apply for the cards at the same time they apply for passports. New applications would cost another $25 to pay for security background checks.
The government will have some extra time to process what could be millions of applications for the cards. Last month, Congress passed a law delaying the passport requirement for land borders until 2009 from the original deadline of early 2008. Business groups and border communities had lobbied heavily for the delay.
State Department officials have not decided when they would make the new cards available.
The technology used in the cards could change before then, though officials say they plan to use "vicinity" radio frequency chips that can be read from a distance rather than "proximity" chips that must be within a few feet of the reader. Privacy advocates have raised concerns that the cards could lead to identity theft, but the State Department proposal says the cards would come with protective sleeves to keep them from being read by would-be thieves.
"The proposal clearly reflects concerns in facilitating legitimate travel for people who live in border communities," said Deborah Meyers, a senior policy analyst at the non-partisan Migration Policy Institute, who has studied post-9/11 border technology. "This is a good example of the government being very responsive to community concerns."




Haven't had a bad trip yet....
View user's profile

  Go To Top

 






All Content Copyright 1997- Q87 International; All Rights Reserved.
Powered by XMB; XMB Forum Software © 2001-2014 The XMB Group






"If it were lush and rich, one could understand the pull, but it is fierce and hostile and sullen. The stone mountains pile up to the sky and there is little fresh water. But we know we must go back if we live, and we don't know why." - Steinbeck, Log from the Sea of Cortez

 

"People don't care how much you know, until they know how much you care." - Theodore Roosevelt

 

"You can easily judge the character of others by how they treat those who they think can do nothing for them or to them." - Malcolm Forbes

 

"Let others lead small lives, but not you. Let others argue over small things, but not you. Let others cry over small hurts, but not you. Let others leave their future in someone else's hands, but not you." - Jim Rohn

 

"The best way to get the right answer on the internet is not to ask a question; it's to post the wrong answer." - Cunningham's Law







Thank you to Baja Bound Mexico Insurance Services for your long-term support of the BajaNomad.com Forums site.







Emergency Baja Contacts Include:

Desert Hawks; El Rosario-based ambulance transport; Emergency #: (616) 103-0262