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[*] posted on 11-17-2006 at 06:47 PM
Words as weapons...


...I'd wager most Nomads talked themselves out of more situations than they have had occasion to actually use a weapon. I'd offer up as evidence the interest in dialogue and witty reparte in Baja Nomad postings!



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[*] posted on 11-17-2006 at 06:53 PM


Nah, no talking needed if you're over 6 foot and 220 lbs !
It's the ominous stare that does it !:lol:

Besides, what could I say ? Maybe;

Se vende hielo ?
Dondez el bano ?
Or maybe "Commo se yama ?" :lol::lol::lol:

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[*] posted on 11-17-2006 at 07:12 PM


I love the Babel translation:

"I am faster than a bullet that hurries" :lol:


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[*] posted on 11-17-2006 at 07:17 PM


Awesome:lol::lol: pic - backs up the findings that 74% of communication is non-verbal!



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[*] posted on 11-17-2006 at 08:01 PM
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Your origninal post is most correct---I used to teach verbal and non-verbal comminucations to cops all over California and it was very revealing---They did a bunch of things that were correct but they did a few that caused complaints and no one could understand why until they started looking at the non-verbals.

Most fun, sad it can not work here.




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[*] posted on 11-17-2006 at 11:40 PM
Bernie- I got a great idea!!


Why don't you do a "non-verbal" book?

It would sell like crazy on this board...
Trust me....

I will even contribute a couple of chapters at my usual usurious rate...
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[*] posted on 11-18-2006 at 09:00 AM
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Sure!

Picture this. Your vehicle is broken down along side the road in Baja and a Cop approaches you, places his hand on his gun butt and with one way, mirror, glasses firmly in place, and asks, "how may I help you." This without a trace of a smile.

Last page of said book!:cool::cool::cool::cool:




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[*] posted on 11-18-2006 at 10:41 AM


a NON Verbal Baja Forum Topic, would really be a challenge!!:biggrin:
A good source I find is Sammy Molcho - great how he talks to you - non verbal.

Okay - now seriously - Non verbal communication starts as early as in infancy. And ends when all ends.
It's VERY helpfull anytime, anywhere.

AND NOW ipicture this - a barely 5ft/100lbs Femal COP approaching you in the same manner as Bernie suggests above - now would that still be the same??:dudette:
Bernie??:?:

[Edited on 18-11-2006 by FARASHA]
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[*] posted on 11-18-2006 at 10:51 AM


My granddaughter has a t-shirt that says "use your words". Maybe I'll start wearing one too having read the alternative weapons thread:tumble:



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[*] posted on 11-18-2006 at 12:10 PM


Words as weapons...


Something like......"STOP OR I'LL SHOOT!!!"

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[*] posted on 11-18-2006 at 07:11 PM
Wouldn't work....


In the frozen north of Idaho... we make it to BC, Canada to perform now and then.

BC border guards have traditionally never had guns - that we've seen or been aware of....

So...... we always make up one liners while waiting at the crossing.... Recently our percussionist came up with:

STOP or I'll......
I'll.........
I'll yell STOP AGAIN !!!!!!

(PS no disrespect intended... I love Canada... just having a little fun, eh? EH ? ?

PPS.... Can you spell Canada ? ?

C, eh? N, eh? D, eh ? ? ?

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[*] posted on 11-18-2006 at 11:26 PM


Reminds me of the "new age car jacker"

Puts the gun in the window and says "Give me your money"

Then says "How did you do this to yourself"?

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[*] posted on 11-19-2006 at 07:07 PM


Quote:
Originally posted by djh
In the frozen north of Idaho... we make it to BC, Canada to perform now and then.

BC border guards have traditionally never had guns - that we've seen or been aware of....

So...... we always make up one liners while waiting at the crossing.... Recently our percussionist came up with:

STOP or I'll......
I'll.........
I'll yell STOP AGAIN !!!!!!

(PS no disrespect intended... I love Canada... just having a little fun, eh? EH ? ?

PPS.... Can you spell Canada ? ?

C, eh? N, eh? D, eh ? ? ?

:tumble:

djh

We just expect that if we're polite, those entering our country will be as well. Lately this is not working as well as it once did. Over the next couple of years our customs officers will be issued sidearms. I guess it reflects the changing reality of the world.
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[*] posted on 11-20-2006 at 07:19 PM
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When I was studying non-verbal communications I spent more time than I cared to in bars and learned that if you really wanted to score than you verbs must elisit a correct resonse from the opposite (hopefully)sex.
Should that happen then the conservation became a delightfully tactile form of communications that can prove to be extremely rewarding in a very silent way.


Darn! Did I say that???




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[*] posted on 11-20-2006 at 07:54 PM


Not sure exactly what you said Bernie but, I know it's right.
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[*] posted on 11-20-2006 at 08:43 PM
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Hope you didn't take offense to my reflections on Drummer Tom's good natured jest about Canadian border officers... We love BCS AND BC (and the people)!! We go up to ski, hotspring, kayak, etc., (and perform) often. It is just peanut gallery - tongue in cheek observation after 4 hours in a van full of musician types.

It is also a constant reminder to us....
Crossing into BC - 2 or 5 minutes and a hearty welcome :D
Returning to US... (citizens) - :30 to 1:00 and - suspicion! :(

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(see, words can also make peace ! )




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[*] posted on 11-21-2006 at 12:47 AM


Quote:
Originally posted by Baja Bernie
When I was studying non-verbal communications I spent more time than I cared to in bars and learned that if you really wanted to score than you verbs must elisit a correct resonse from the opposite (hopefully)sex.
Should that happen then the conservation became a delightfully tactile form of communications that can prove to be extremely rewarding in a very silent way.


Darn! Did I say that???


Bernie : have you read WATZLAWICK ??
http://www.amazon.com/Ultra-Solutions-How-Fail-Most-Successfully/dp/0393025144/sr=1-3/qid=1164112176/ref=pd_bbs_sr_3/002-7640183-1936022?ie=UTF8&s =books

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[*] posted on 11-21-2006 at 10:06 AM


DJH

I was not offended in the least. In fact our border guys being unarmed and friendy to all that entered was the kind of face, I, as a Canadian thought should be what we show the world. Living next to the US allowed us the luxury of not having to be so concerned about security as the "Big Dog" to the south was always there, in case. With North America having more of a siege mentality, we're all losing, not just actual freedoms, but the feeling of freedom, as well. Our border guys getting sidearms is just one more sign of that. So my comment was made in sadness, not anger. I, will say though, that I cross into the States to go windsurfing at Hoodriver at least once a year with a full truck of windsurfing gear and bikes, and a 23' trailer, that I have never had less than courteous and mostly friendly reception at the US border. So, I am hopefull that the next time you come to Canada, our border guys are just as friendly as always, verbaly and non-verbaly.
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[*] posted on 11-22-2006 at 10:26 PM


I agree with everything Windgrrl wrote to start this thread, but it seems to have devolved into a commentary about BC border guards. I had an ugly experience with the BC border dudes and dudetee about twenty years ago and I have never forgiven them, although the people of BC on that trip were absolutely wonderful.



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[*] posted on 11-23-2006 at 09:47 AM
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Sorry, I missed you questions at first:

Regarding 100 pound female cop--NOPE

Watzlawick---didn't think so until I looked him up and then I remembered discussing his work in one of the classes I was attending years ago.




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