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[*] posted on 2-26-2007 at 05:46 PM


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is it possible to go to the mexican consulate on india street in downtown san diego and get the fmt and pay for it there. i can't find their phone # to call them and ask....:?::?::?:


Well, I would think you would still have to get it stamped by someone to verify that you have entered the country.




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[*] posted on 2-26-2007 at 05:48 PM


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is it possible to go to the mexican consulate on india street in downtown san diego and get the fmt and pay for it there. i can't find their phone # to call them and ask....:?::?::?:


I think you will still be required to pay in Mexico. As I said, it is very easy. You just stop under the bay to the right as you cross the border. If it is a busy time it might take a while.
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[*] posted on 2-26-2007 at 05:55 PM


i'd like to bypass tj and go thru otay and down blvd 2000 and on down the road a "bit". my insurance states that not having fmt "MAY" make insurance invalid.....maybe just take the trolley and walk across this weekend so it's all taken care of b4 hand.....



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[*] posted on 2-26-2007 at 06:00 PM


wooddy...

how could your insurance be invalid if you don't need a visa until past Ensenada?

also...why would you want to by-pass tj???
it's alot closer to you..and...
there's more motorcycle cops driving that road... and...
they "look" for surfers like you:lol:

[Edited on 2-27-2007 by Bob and Susan]




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[*] posted on 2-26-2007 at 06:04 PM


Easiest Way there Is.........Cross at Tecate and head straight to Ensenada and go to office there. Fast polite service. Bank nearby..Never any crowds and no waiting.:spingrin:
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[*] posted on 2-26-2007 at 06:08 PM


it says "visits over 72 hours require fmt available at mexican consulate or the border. failure to obtain one "MAY" invalidate insurance coverage"

i'd like to miss the backup at playas since we're gonna be crossing around 2pm and heading for the bajacactus before dark. it will be cool going a new route, too!




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[*] posted on 2-27-2007 at 12:17 AM


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Easiest Way there Is.........Cross at Tecate and head straight to Ensenada and go to office there. Fast polite service. Bank nearby..Never any crowds and no waiting.:spingrin:


You clearly havent been reading about the Ensenada office gringotornillo.

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[*] posted on 2-27-2007 at 05:54 AM


that's right those army guys are slowing tings down on the border road before the toll road....

they stand down after dusk...

i'm leaving wed afternoon...i might cross at otay too...now

thanks woody
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i got grand ma fmt at otay last month
drive into secondary...park
walk back to the inm for visa
(near entry to secondary right at border)
pay at bank in secondary
walk back to inm and get it stamped




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[*] posted on 2-27-2007 at 07:07 AM


The immigration in Ensenada does have surly folks there who begin by telling you you are in the country illegaly and you have to pay a fine...they smirk as you squirm...but the fine is 50 pesos and then you get your FMT and can go on your merry way. Don't sweat the small stuff...its just good to be prepared for this and deal with it without panicking. the bank teller is right there at the office too. I was told there that the new law was everyone passing the border no matter how long they are staying needs a tourist visa. New law maybe??



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[*] posted on 3-1-2007 at 09:59 PM


Has anyone been checked for this going to Bay of La and back?
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[*] posted on 3-1-2007 at 10:18 PM


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Has anyone been checked for this going to Bay of La and back?


NO... listen up, the ONLY place that you MIGHT be checked (and usually are checked) is at the state border on Mexico #1... This is the Eagle Monument, 28th Parallel, near Guerrero Negro.... 80 miles south of the L.A. Bay turnoff.

However, technically you are an illegal alien IF you are without an FM-T ANY TIME YOU ARE SOUTH OF MANEADERO OR SAN FELIPE... even if for 5 minutes... OR ANYWHERE north of those points for over 72 HOURS.




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[*] posted on 3-2-2007 at 06:06 AM


and....

if Guerrero Negro is open you can get the FMT there without penalty.

and...

these guys follow the rules!!!

trouble is the bank is in town then you have to drive back to get it stamped

unless...

you want pay in Santa Rosalia and have it stamped there:light:




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[*] posted on 3-2-2007 at 06:44 AM


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The immigration in Ensenada does have surly folks there who begin by telling you you are in the country illegaly and you have to pay a fine...they smirk as you squirm...but the fine is 50 pesos and then you get your FMT and can go on your merry way. Don't sweat the small stuff...its just good to be prepared for this and deal with it without panicking. the bank teller is right there at the office too. I was told there that the new law was everyone passing the border no matter how long they are staying needs a tourist visa. New law maybe??


Why not send copies of these posts to the Dept. of Tourism?
Does anyone have a contact with the Tourism officials whom:light: is dependable and cares?




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[*] posted on 3-2-2007 at 07:10 AM


From the Dept of Tourism web site:

http://www.discoverbajacalifornia.com/home.htm

THE TOURIST CARD

THE MEXICAN GOVERNMENT PROVIDES TOURIST AND TRANSIT VISAS AND ESTABLISHES THE IMPLEMENTATION OF A FEE FOR FOREIGNERS (NON-IMMIGRANTS) SUCH AS TOURISTS VISITING MEXICO (CALLED D.N.I IN MEXICO).

PROCEDURE:

THOSE PEOPLE INTERESTED WILL HAVE TO GO TO THE NEAREST IMMIGRATION OFFICE.

DOCUMENTS:

PHOTO I.D.
BIRTH CERTIFICATE OR VALID PASSPORT.
FILL OUT THE VISITOR FORM
PAY IN THE NEAREST BANK AND GO BACK TO THE NATIONAL IMMIGRATION INSTITUTE TO GET THE SEAL.
SERVICE HOURS:

24 HOURS ALL THE WEEK

FEE PRICE:

$ 205.00 PESOS OR IT' S EQUIVALENT IN U.S. DOLLARS

WHERE TO PAY:

ANY BANK IN THE CITY

TIJUANA: BBV
MEXICALI: BANORTE, BITAL
TECATE: BANORTE, BITAL
THE VISITOR CARD IS VALID FOR A PERIOD OF SIX MONTHS.

THE VISITOR OF ANY NATIONALITY, EXCEPT MEXICAN, WILL HAVE TO PAY THIS FEE, WHEN ENTERING MEXICO.

IF YOU ENTER MEXICO:

BY AIR: YOU WILL MAKE THIS PAYMENT WHEN YOU BUY THE PLANE TICKET.
BY SEA: THE TOURIST THAT ARRIVED BY SEA AND THEIR VISIT IS NOT EXCEEDING MORE THAN 72 HOURS WILL BE CONSIDERED LOCAL VISITORS AND THEREFORE WILL NOT BE SUBJECT TO PAY THIS FEE (D.N.I.) BUT ALL PEOPLE THAT TRAVEL BEYOND THE ROAD-CHECK POINT OR STAYING MORE THAN 7 DAYS WILL HAVE TO PAY THIS FEE
BY LAND: THOSE WHO WANT TO STAY MORE THAN 7 DAYS IN AREAS NEAR TO THE BORDER CROSSING WILL HAVE TO PAY THIS FEE AT ANY MEXICAN BANK. THE SECRETARIAT OF TOURISM IN BAJA CALIFORNIA ESTABLISHES TOURIST CORRIDORS WHERE THE FEE DOESN'T HAVE TO BE PAID (D.N.I) AND THOSE PLACES ARE:

TIJUANA - ENSENADA.
SONOITA - PUERTO PEŅASCO.
CIUDAD JUAREZ - PAQUIME.
PIEDRAS NEGRAS - SANTAROSA.
REYNOSA - CHINA - PRESA (DAM) EL CUCHILLO.

TO EASE THE ENTRANCE BY LAND , THE PAYMENT CAN BE DONE EVERY 6 MONTHS, BEING ABLE TO ENTER AND EXIT MEXICO SEVERAL TIMES DURING THIS PERIOD.
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[*] posted on 3-2-2007 at 10:35 AM


Awfulart, this must be rather old info. Bitals have been gone for awhile.

Not saying it isnt valid, just that it must be old.




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[*] posted on 3-3-2007 at 09:35 AM


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Awfulart, this must be rather old info. Bitals have been gone for awhile.

Not saying it isnt valid, just that it must be old.


Hook,

You are probably right but this was a "copy and paste" off their web site and there is no date on the site indicating how current the info is. I am going to the expo today and will mention it to the Dept of Tourism, for what thats worth.

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[*] posted on 3-14-2007 at 09:17 PM


I've made quite a few 400-mile trips to G. Negro as an undocumented alien.

The friendly people at the little Migra building beside the highway could not have cared less. They just issue me a 180-day permit [no fee] that can be validated by paying for it at a La Paz bank.




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[*] posted on 3-14-2007 at 10:05 PM


time they are a changing
last time i stopped at the gn shack they had a young couple in there saying that there is a posable $100,000.00 fine for being that far south with out a visa saw them a day later and they were broke payed them $400.00 us wont catch me in that mess




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rolleyes.gif posted on 3-15-2007 at 06:03 AM


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time they are a changing
last time i stopped at the gn shack they had a young couple in there saying that there is a posable $100,000.00 fine for being that far south with out a visa saw them a day later and they were broke payed them $400.00 us wont catch me in that mess


It doesn't sound like some Mexican officials are trying to encourage Tourism. When traveling in a foreign country one should attempt to be aware of the rules and regulations. However, does not having a tourist permit justify a 100,000. fine ( dollars or pesos) In addition, the rules seem to change from place to place and official to official.
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[*] posted on 3-15-2007 at 07:41 AM


It seems like tourisim is being discouraged in Mexico, The powers that be allow every area to make up thier own rules and fine s are whatever the traffic will bear, it's gonna end up where noone will go there ,
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