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New cruise ship port to be built
A new port for cruise ships will be constructed in Loreto. Article sais it will bring new life to the town, they will rebuild the malecon, remodel
streets and historical center and build new roads to the highway and airport, etc. Wow.
http://www.oem.com.mx/elsudcaliforniano/notas/n139680.htm
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David K
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New Life? I thought 'Loreto Bay' was supposed to do that? How's the new hospital coming along??
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Great... just great
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Paula
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I think this is sad news, and I think that if it happens it will turn this charming, quirky little town into another generic destination for tourists
who want to say they've been places without taking the risks involved in independent travel to places outside of their comfort level.
And I doubt that it will improve the lives of the people who make Loreto the place it is now.
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Crusoe
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----Oh Just Lovely---
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Phil C
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I just wonder who's going to fund this obviously very expensive undertaking? And if it does get started, will it get finished? Que lastima!
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Get Used To It
EVERY Physically Attractive Location, especially in close proximity to the U.S., is going to be consumed by Structured Development. It is only a
matter of time. The exponential growth of persons with disposable income seems to have no end in sight. In Southern California I am seeing explosive
development in areas I thought would forever remain desolate, including the area around the Salton Sea where Hundreds (Thousands ?) of dwellings are
being constructed at rapid pace. Each month when I return North, I am startled by the construction that has occurred in the short time I was gone.
Years ago, I developed my own "Power of Positive Thinking" philosophy and that was to appreciate TODAY as the BEST day of the rest of my life.
Tomorrow is destined to be a little (or a lot) worse. Live by that philosophy and you can only be pleasantly surprised by events.
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Don Alley
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API can't even fix the launch ramp. They dredged the marina recently, in such a way as to make the ramp even worse.
They do need additional dock space so they can meet international requirements for a secure boarding area, yet still have a place to load and unload
chartered pangas and private boats. Perhaps that has led to some grandiose plans.
I'd have to assume that visiting cruise ships would continue to anchor offshore in the bay. I can't imagine a harbor where such ships could actually
enter and tie up, not in that shallopw, sandy bay with sands that shift with the storms. Of course, anything is possible, but seems to me the price
would far surpass the benefits.
Building a port, paving the road to San Javier, new airport in the future at San Juan, Escalara Nautica at Puerto Escondido...no wonder my property
tax went from 95 to 150 pesos in one year!
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Phil C
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Don
How goes the paving to San Javier?
[Edited on 1-19-2007 by Phil C]
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right on MrBill
north to Alaska, and even that will be found. I did! the hordes of baby boomers are coming, and they have all the right to, as we did.
TODAY!
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Alaska! Good fishing, crabbing etc.! A little chilly, but you know where you stand when it comes to real estate. 
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Don Alley
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Road to San Javier: They are paving the lower section, maybe just the first three kilometers. We drove up to where they were working a couple of days
ago, a couple of kilometers up.
As for paving all the way to San Javier, who knows? Governor Agundez has backed the paving since his inaugaration.
There may be a connection here with the cruise ships...some say that one purpose of paving the road is to put San Javier within reach of the cruise
ship passengers.
Oh, David asked about the hospital...it's moving right along. Not a lot of workers or activity, but progress is being made.
Oh, also, there is a lot of activity where the hwy crosses the big arroyo. New route across bulldozed, and lots of rebar and concrete forms there.
Looks like a bridge may be in the works.
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dgi
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I was under the impression that Puerto Escondido would be the cruise ship harbor. Have they changed it to in town. What a waste!
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Don Alley
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| Quote: | Originally posted by dgi
I was under the impression that Puerto Escondido would be the cruise ship harbor. Have they changed it to in town. What a waste!
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The Spirit of Endeavor will stop at Puerto Escondido with trips in January through March. This is a small cruise ship of about 200ft and 100
passengers. In addition, there will be visits by a small "yacht cruiser" with a capacity of about 20+ passengers. The pier has been repaired, secured
and gated closed to accomodate those ships.
I've seen the S of E tied up at the Escondido pier. But I can't imagine one of the larger Holland America ships like the Ryndam moving in that close
to shore in water that shallow to tie up to such a short pier. And I think the locals would freak if the Ryndam departed passengers anywhere else.
There was another pier at PE that's outside the "waiting room" but it's currently in ruins.
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Cypress
see your U2U
George
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Crusoe
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SO.....The question is..........? Is the new creise ship port to be constructed in Loreto or Puerto Escondido???
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Cypress
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Some of those "eco-cruise ships" don't need a port. They've got big zodiacs that can carry lots of passengers ashore at just about any location,
regardless of how remote. 
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flyfishinPam
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The spirit of endeavor docks at Puerto Escondido on tuesdays when the winds from the North are strong and they need to change their itinerary.
Normally they anchor off town on wednesdays and bring folks to the marina and back on a weird looking panga with big rubber bumpers. Its a small
ship but it still can't get near the town's marina. The Ryndam is a much larger ship (1500+ passengers) and anchors one to three miles off the town's
marina. It would never be able to dock at Puerto Escondido in its current state and a lot of money would need to go into constructing a dock that
could accommodate it. Off the town the bay is shallow with a shifting sand bottom like one poster noted above. It stays at about a 30 feet depth
from about 200 meters off the shoreline to about three miles out. If they can't even figure out how to build a panga launch ramp, how the hell will
these marooons, I mean ingineros mastermind a cruise ship dock off town? Something tells me we don't have much to worry about in this department.
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