pacificobob
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favorite fruit tree varities?
im getting ready to plant a small orchard in the todos santos area. id like to hear about your favorite varities. id like to have several varities of
each tree that will provide both early and late season fruit. for example i have heard that with 3-4 varities of mangoes, one can have fruit 8-9
months a year. id like to learn the same for avacados,and others . also, can anyone tell me the location a a nursery on the road from todos santos to
la paz that is perhaps government run/subsidized, its supposed to have some good deals? i know there is a wealth of horticultural knowledge here ,
thanks in advance for sharing, bob
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Guavas, Papayas, Cherimoyas, Banana varieties, Pomelos, Blood oranges...
I was a member of the California Rare Fruit Growers some years ago, after being introduced to exotic varieties by a friend and discovered that they
could grow in California... I wrote some articles on growing Bananas (they can be found on the Internet still), which was a hobby... I had 30
varieties of bananas at one time growing in Vista.
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picificobob
i'm interested...
post what you find in your area
those things are too hard to bring from the north
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pacificobob
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david,
about the blood oranges...any favorite variity?
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Fruit Trees + TS Area "Orchard"...
| Quote: | Originally posted by pacificobob
..can anyone tell me the location a a nursery on the road from todos santos to la paz that is perhaps government run/subsidized, its supposed to have
some good deals? i know there is a wealth of horticultural knowledge here , thanks in advance for sharing, bob |
Hey Bob!
You're on the right track w/the Mango trees, and the Avacodos too. I'd also plant a few Lime trees myself.
As far as the nursery/orchard on the road to La Paz, I think you might be talking about the place just 2km or so out of Todos, on the right side of
the road (..as you head to La Paz). It's behind/next to the Profepa "office", and sitting at the base of the cliffs. I don't think it's
government-sponsored, but maybe some folks think that because of it's proximity to the office. The guy who owns it is named "Muerto", and if you get
anywhere close to his place and ask around, you shouldn't have any problem finding him. He's got all kinds of stuff, including some really neat palms.
Hope this helps. Suerte!.. C
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David K--did you know a guy with the last name Thomson in the Rare Fruit Growers? He lived in Fallbrook and wrote a book on Dudleyas(succulent
plants).
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pacificobob
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rare fruit growers...
is there a web site or forum associated with that group?
btw...thanks to all who have responded..id love to hear more.
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Jack Swords
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Paul Thomson and John Riley founded the California Rare Fruit Growers. John passed away, but Paul is still alive. I had the opportunity to help Paul
collect Dudleyas and he had a fantastic collection, but lost most to a bad freeze.
The gov't nursery used to be to the west of the highway from TS to La Paz. It was marked by an overturned car. It was closer to La Paz than TS. Ask
around if it is still there. Mangos and Citrus mainly. We lived in TS for 11 years and had quite a collection of fruiting trees that I couldn't grow
in CA. Problem is getting them. Brewster variety of Lychee does especially well in TS. So do Macadamia, even had a Theobroma (Chocolate). Some
great Annona squamosa also (sugar apples). Check with La Paz nurseries (Santa Fe) for some samples. Also check with locals like Eriberto Parra as he
has had a very good collection. There is also Nayarit on the mainland to bring some on the Ferry to TS. There is a very long list of fruiting plants
that do well in TS with decent care and water.
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pacificobob
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jack,
anyone else in the todos area i should contact to learn more?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by pacificobob
about the blood oranges...any favorite variity? |
My favorite is the Tarocco. The Moro is good too.
The trouble with blood oranges is that they seem like lots of cold nights in the winter, and very hot summer days to get their blodiest. A Tarocco
tree we had in San Juan Capistrano, at most, had 10% blood red cells, the rest were orange. The trees we had in Tara Bella, in Tulare County, CA,
were almost 100% blood red. The flavor of the Tara Bella fruit was also superior.
I would also recommend planting a Lime tree - either a 'persian' or a 'mexican' or both!
Here's some more info on blood oranges: Link
| Quote: | Blood Oranges
These aren't new in the way 'Cara Cara' is new, but they're still new enough to warrant inclusion here. Blood oranges are old varieties of oranges
that until recently were virtually unknown in the U.S., despite our huge citrus industries. The red color of the flesh and juice is the most obvious
difference, but there's something more to the flavor as well. Americans traveling in France, Italy or Spain would relish a glass of blood orange
juice, sometimes believing it a mixture of regular orange juice with raspberry and other fruit juices.
'Moro' blood orange. The most predictable and colorful of all the blood oranges, 'Moro' is the most popular commercial and home
garden variety. Once mature, the exterior shows a bright red blush, and the internal color is deep red. The juice is equally dark.
The fruits are medium-size, easy-to-peel and usually seedless. The tree is vigorous but has a tendency to bear heavy crops in alternate years. Fruits
ripen December to March in inland California, Texas and the Gulf Coast; February to May in coastal southern California; November to February in the
low-elevation desert; and February to May in northern coastal California.
'Sanguinelli' blood orange. This is a late-ripening blood orange from Spain. The flesh is usually a shade lighter than 'Moro', but
skin color is often a stunning cherry red.
Fruits are small- to medium-size and almost egg-shaped. The rind is very smooth but is harder to peel than other blood oranges. Fruits usually contain
a few seeds. They ripen March to May in inland California; February to April in Texas, low-elevation deserts, the Gulf Coast and Florida; and April to
June in coastal California (both north and south).
'Tarocco' blood orange. These fruits are the largest of all the blood oranges. They ripen after 'Moro' but before 'Sanguinelli'.
'Tarocco' is also generally considered the best-flavored of the three.
Fruits are large and the orange-blushed-with-red rind is smooth, thin and easy to peel. Internal color varies: Sometimes it is plain orange; at other
times it is very deep red. Most fruits produce a few seeds. 'Tarocco' is well adapted only to California climates; it is not grown in Texas, the Gulf
Coast or Florida. It ripens March to May in coastal California (north and south) and January to March in inland California. |
[Edited on 2-11-2007 by Taco de Baja]
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greta stuff..
thanks... love to hear more ....
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Bob, just walk around Todos Santos and look for lots of plantings and ask. We had sweet carambola, cashews, Hawaiian papaya, 12 varieties of bananas,
rose apple, black sapote, to name a few. Sold place, but the plants/trees are still there: avenida pedrajo/Pta. Lobos Road across from Jardine de
Ninos.Gave a few plants to a guy in Pescadero...Rcho San Simon. You can airlayer many trees and get plants that way, seeds work for passion fruits,
papaya. Again, La Paz nurseries have lots, so do the two nurseries in the ranchos around San Blas. Fun part is finding stuff.
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Everyone I know in San Nicolas who has Grapefruit is getting a great crop. I have only one tree, but it was LOADED with fruit this year. I think we
transplanted it 6 or 7 years ago.
It has pink flesh.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Mexitron
David K--did you know a guy with the last name Thomson in the Rare Fruit Growers? He lived in Fallbrook and wrote a book on Dudleyas(succulent
plants). |
I knew Paul Thomson... sold irrigation to him when I worked at Vista Pipe & Supply... He co-founded CRFG as stated above... His rare trees were
planted in Vista off of Warmlands many years ago...
Ca Rare Fruit Growers does have a web site!
This is a great subject and between Jack, Taco de Baja, Don Jorge and others you will get great info!
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We talked about this a year ago- see thread
http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=11984#pid1236...
Although our discussion relates to Northern regions of Baja you will find it interesting, nonetheless.
The lack of winter chilling in San Vicente is leading us more into the citrus, olive and avocado, and away from the traditional soft stone fruits that
they now enjoy.
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