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David K
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Thanks, have a great day!
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DENNIS
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May I recommend a good read on the subject of cartels in Mexico....
"Down By The River" by Charles Bowden.
Guaranteed to get your attention.
If you go to Barnes and Noble on the net, it will give you a good synopsis.
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Iflyfish
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I appreciate this informative dialogue. Thanks Dennis for the book suggestion.
I have voiced my position on other posts regarding the legalization of drugs and the history of Prohibition. I am glad other voices are also speaking
up on this important issue. There is a cancer growing at the core of our societies and our current approaches are wrong headed and ultimately self
defeating.
Iflyfish
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flyfishinPam
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GAWD Dennis, now you got my curiosity going and I looked up the book, read the reviews then started reading the sample chapter. Look at some of
this!!
"And drugs are as basic and American as, say, Citibank. Mexico's three leading official sources of foreign exchange are oil, tourism, and the money
sent home by Mexicans in the United States. Drugs bring Mexico more money than these three sources combined. "
"A Mexican study by the nation's internal security agency, CISEN (Centro de Investigación y Seguridad Nacional), that has been leaked to the press
speculates that if the drug business vanished, the U.S. economy would shrink 19 to 22 percent, the Mexican 63 percent. I stare at these numbers and
have no idea if they are sound or accurate. No one can really grapple with the numbers because illegal enterprises can be glimpsed but not measured.
In 1995, one Mexican drug-trafficking expert guessed that half the hotel room revenues in his country were frauds, meaning empty rooms counted
as sold in order to launder drug money."
Coincidence??
From today's article on Calderon's visit to Loreto:
http://www.oem.com.mx/elsudcaliforniano/notas/n247864.htm
"Tras anunciar que Loreto sera un punto central en el proyecto que se aspira a convertir al Mar de Cortez en al corredor turistico mas importante de
la Republica..."
After announcing that Loreto will be the central point in the Mar de Cortez project that will convert it into the most important tourism corridor in
the country...
we're in trouble:
From this article:
http://www.jornada.unam.mx/2007/02/19/index.php?section=esta...
the Loreto area is gearing up for an increase in hotel rooms...80,000 rooms.
Then I hear of another development at Lopez Mateos and I ask, "who is going to come here and use all these rooms?" Always wondered at the hotels and
large projects that sit empty thorughout Mexico. I guess I just got my answer. We're screwed
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bancoduo
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A lot of projects in Mex. are used for money laundering. SURPRISE-SURPRISE!
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DENNIS
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True story. The Casas De Cambio come to mind.
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Iflyfish
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The difficulty with legalization is the one flyfishinPam is pointing to. The money fuels both a huge underground economy on both sides of the border
and a massive above ground "War on Drugs" economy. All players in these economies have major vested interest in maintaining the illegal status of
these substances, whether they are conscious of it or not.
The real truth about this issue is astounding and hardly ever told. We focus instead on the "War on Drugs" in our "Perminant War Society".
Like the US interest in maintaining the six or seven PERMINANT basis established in Iraq, once established, these things take on a life of their own
and have powerful lobbies advocating for them. The talk is about "getting Sadam" or "Freeing the Iraquies", but the hidden agenda is maintaining the
bases that have been built there. The "War On Drug Game" was invented by Nixon/Agnew as an election ploy to arouse "the silent majority" and sprouted
a major vested interest in what is obviously the wrong solution. We all are indeed screwed in these games.
I have a good friend who used to say "start with the wrong premis and you will reach the wrong conclusion."
"War on Drugs", "War on Terror"? What do these terms really mean? They are propaganda slogans used to support the special interests behind them. Who
could be opposed to a "war on drugs" or a "war on terror"? Once we accept these definitions of the problem we will necessarily develop wrong headed
strategies to approach these problems.
I apologise if I am repeating myself from prior posts.
Iflyfishandlikeallofushaveadoginthisrace
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DENNIS
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IFF .....
The war on drugs is real. The problem for the U.S. is that we have externalized the problem. We blame Mexico, we blame Afghanistan, we blame
Columbia. We blame anybody and everybody except ourselves. How can our society be expected to wage a defense when our own warriors are the enemy?
The buyers, the users, the reason for the problem........
We have to legalize it or stiffen the penalitys or it will only get worse.
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SDRonni
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Will the violence ever end???
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/4735804.html
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Sharksbaja
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80,000 rooms??
That would be on par with other resort towns. Calderon will turn a cheek to any negative rhetoric regarding Loreto. His interest is tourist and
development driven. In his eyes and the administration these are "good" for Mexico. New construction signals a prosperous economy in their eyes. The
trip may be whitewash for those who are not party to this whole new city. Still the govt will benefit, er, I mean, some politicians will benefit
greatly. It's pretty much who you know and what you have, financially that is.
Money talks & bullchite walks. Here or there. No matter where it comes from. It just appears to most this plan is legitimate but there is no
doubt IMHO crimes are being committed at all levels.
Blue collar or white collar, take yer pick. Guess who the victims are? Kinda like crappin in someone elses living room and then bragging about it.
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