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bajaguy
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Originally posted by vgabndo:
Its all too bizarre. Selective enforcement of useless laws.........
Just like trying to get an answer regarding FM-3 procedures from different Mexican Consulates or local Mexican Immigration offices................
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oldhippie
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I'm legally changing my name to Joe Smith. Google all you want, I've done it all, including talking to God and starting the Mormon church. Don't mess
with me.
I understand "George Bush was arrested for smoking crack".
There, that should get rid of the (expletive deleted) the next time he tries to enter the country and ole heart attack Dick does a Google search. But
wait, then Dick will be president.
"Dick Chaney shot a friend in the face with a shotgun". Ok, he's out too.
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oldhippie
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or is it "Dick Cheney shot a friend in the face with a shotgun". Whatever, they're both banned.
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Taco de Baja
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I should be ok. My Googled name mainly has hits to some lawyers and a judge 
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...Or, maybe, that's a bad thing....
Truth generally lies in the coordination of antagonistic opinions
-Herbert Spencer
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TMW
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Mexray
...That our Federal Govt's agents are enforcing this county's immigration/Visa regulations in a more 'aggressive' way.
For anyone who has traveled to other countries around our globe, you will find strict rules and regulations on visitors entering, visiting, etc. If
one has a questionable background, or problems on previous visits, they may encounter difficulties with authorities at their borders!
I believe it's about time our Govt. is taking steps to 'tighten' up the Reg's that have been rather lax on our Northern and Southern borders, for
years. What's wrong with turning back a foreigner with a questionable background? Just because they have been granted entry before shouldn't make
any difference!
Entry into OUR COUNTRY is a privilege - just as it is for us to visit other foreign countries.
I say it's about time other's begin playing by International rules we US Citizens have been abiding by to visit other countries, for many years!!!
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If Mexico starts checking, the lines will be backed up to Canada. Within the European Union they do not check people crossing the borders.
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TMW
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While talking about security, does anyone know who checks the airplane cleaning people? In most airports nobody does. Also in many airports pilots can
bypass security check points. So much for tough security.
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bajalou
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Taco de Baja
I should be ok. My Googled name mainly has hits to some lawyers and a judge
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...Or, maybe, that's a bad thing.... |
Better watch out keeping that kind of company.
No Bad Days
\"Never argue with an idiot. People watching may not be able to tell the difference\"
\"The trouble with doing nothing is - how do I know when I\'m done?\"
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Minnow
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Before my wife got her permanent resident card she had to do a blood test and a drug screening. Thats right, if you fail, no green card. Good thing college kids in Mexico aren't like they are in the states.
Proud husband of a legal immigrant.
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MrBillM
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A Crock of Complaints.
For years it wasn't feasible to do these database searches on an extensive basis. Technology has changed that. Now that we are seeing increased
enforcement of Already exisiting regulations, the Libbies are whining that, somehow, this is going to erode Liberties.
Exactly HOW ? The Foreign Drug Guy hasn't lost anything guaranteed to him as a Canuckian. He is still free to disseminate his
views. His presence on U.S. soil won't affect the civil liberties of U.S. Citizens and the ICE people can't deny re-entry to them regardless of what
the background check shows.
As far as the United Nitwits is concerned, the government CAN and HAS denied entry to Foreigners invited to New York
to speak. Only those with Diplomatic Credentials are immune and even that isn't absolute. In an extreme case, the State Department can and has
refused to recognize the Credentials.
For those who think that is terrible, the answer is Simple. Get the U.N. out of the U.S. and Good Riddance. It is an organization
that has been a complete failure in performing its primary purpose. Only in some of the minor ancillary efforts has it shown any competence at all.
It was located in New York as a result of pressure from the Soviet Union. They wanted the opportunities to bring spies into the country under
Diplomatic cover. The recorded history of their successful activities in that respect is well-documented.
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Minnow
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Come on Bill. Look at all the good Kofi Annan did.
Proud husband of a legal immigrant.
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Hook
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Of course, the most absurd aspect of this is that foreigners admitting to victimless crimes will be barred...............but the foreigners who have
made it illegally into the country will be granted some kind of amnesty and social security status. Their kids, too.
Happened once in the Reagan Administration............will happen again.
This Canadian's crime was that the work he performed in the US wasnt for a large agribusiness or hotel chain...........he was performing work that
Americans WOULD do. BAD, BAD!!!!!!
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Minnow
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Come on Hook, look at the big picture. We all know by now that taking illegal drugs supports terrorists. Just as in MX, where the philosophy is that
demand dictates supply. Tail wags the dog so to speak. It would then reason that if you take drugs, you support terrorism.
[Edited on 15-5-2007 by Minnow]
Proud husband of a legal immigrant.
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Lee
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Minnow
Before my wife got her permanent resident card she had to do a blood test and a drug screening. Thats right, if you fail, no green card. Good thing college kids in Mexico aren't like they are in the states. |
Baja would have alot less Californians if it started doing blood and drug testing. Thank God the druggies have a place to go.
US Marines: providing enemies of America an opportunity to die for their country since 1775.
What I say before any important decision.
F*ck it.
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vgabndo
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Lets not lose touch with the reality that the last big get together of Nomads in Baja was at least partly to take drugs and then judge the different
varieties. Alcohol, a drug, still does more social damage than ALL the street drugs put together. I hope all the Nomads had designated drivers, or
slept it off where they were. Properly controlled, recreational drugs can be a lot of fun.
The dis-allowed scientist used LSD twenty years ago. Dick Chaney was drinking when he shot his friend in the face.
Like I said, the selective law enforcement is bizarre.
Undoubtedly, there are people who cannot afford to give the anchor of sanity even the slightest tug. Sam Harris
"The situation is far too dire for pessimism."
Bill Kauth
Carl Sagan said, "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself."
PEACE, LOVE AND FISH TACOS
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Iflyfish
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Well, lets see, that would have excluded Einstein and Freud from entering the country too.
Man, oh, man.
A bit of history.
In the seventies they were experimenting, legally, with LSD, as a form of "psychomemetic" a drug that would mimic psychosis to learn more about it and
hopefully to better treat it. Because of it's powerful affect on emotions it was also being considered and in some cases was used as a form of
Psychotherapy. It was introduced to Harvard as a result of a European industrialist taking the drug, as a part of his own psychotherapy, and
re-experiencing his birth. He felt that his experience cured him of a life long depression. He was so enthusiastic he promoted and supported research
in the use of the drug in Psychotherapy and that is part of the story of how it got to Harvard researchers Leary and Alport and to many other labs
around the country. The CIA experimented extensively with the drug as they saw potential to either use it in interogation of spies or for innoculating
our agents from chemical means of extracting information from them. There were experiments carried out by the CIA in which many people were exposed to
the drug, some without their knowledge or consent.
My point here is that the author, who was excluded from this country, who cannot now visit his children, was not a crazy, drug crazed addict, but a
serious researcher and Psychotherapist. This is a sad story indeed. There is law and there is justice, sometimes they are not the same.
Iflyfish
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QuePasaBaja
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The thing that concerns me, is that simply ANYONE can compose an article, and use your name. Infact if you know someone that visits the US on a
regular basis, and you dont want them there any more, simply compose an article using thier name and stating that they have committed illegal acts,
such as taking drugs or smuggling others in.
That is what I find so scarry. This board is spiderd by Google on a regular basis. Unless the Correct files are in place to prevent it. So if you are
using your real name, and statements can and will be used against you.
So cut the jokes, as they may one day bite you in the ars.
Have a Baja Day
QuePasaBaja
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Mango
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I was gifted by my parents with the most popular name for boys when I was born. I was also gifted with the 18th most popular last name by my family.
I can open any phone book in the US and find about 4 or 5 pages of my last name; usually three to four other people with my same name.
When I was in elementary school. There were two other kids (one in the same classroom as me even!) that had the same first and last name. The kid in
my class had the same middle initial even.
One day I received a packet of meal stamps in the mail for the cafeteria that we did not order. I always took my lunch to school. They were for one
of the other kids with my same name. After phone calls to the other parents, and to the school we were unable to find and return them or find the
rightful owner. After about two weeks, my mother told me to just go ahead and use them.
Skip ahead several years to high school. Now only one kid with my same name; except, now the kid with my name is a troublemaker. (I always received
good marks in citizenship)
One day I was in English class, working away... when a message comes over the intercom for me to report to the office immediately. Everyone knew I
was in big trouble; because, they knew that students were rarely called to the office via the loudspeaker in the classroom vs. more subtle methods.
Shocked and confused I reported to the principals office. As I walked in the receptionist, who knew me and babysat me as a child, told me, "I don't
know what you did, but Mr. Cavinni is peeed."
I walked into the principals office. He had his chair faced away from the door, and commanded that I, "Take a seat," after he heard me walk in.
After sitting down in the chair across from his desk, my principle suddenly wheeled his chair around 180 degrees and slammed his hands down on his
desk. His initial look of furry and anger quickly turned to confusion as he asked, "Who the hell are you?!?"
I replied with my name, and he said, "No your not." I thought to myself, "Oh.. this again..." I pulled my student ID out of my wallet and showed him
I was who I said I was and explained about past confusion between me and the other kid with my same name. Off I went back to class.. no big deal..
until..
A few months later, I get home from school and put my key in the front door to unlock it. My father, who must have come home from work early, opens
the door for me and confronts me looking rather angry.
"Do you have anything to tell me?!"
Shocked and confused I thought for a minute, Damm.. what did I do? hmm.. no way he could have found out about that.. hmm.. and that was two weeks
ago, could it be.. hmm.. no, he wouldn't be this peeed..
"No", I said, "I don't think so."
"Your US Government teacher just called and told me you skipped your final!", he said
I thought..Oh shi...wait.. "I don't even have US Government dad, that is a class for Juniors and I am a Sophomore!"
I then explained to my father about my evil "twin"
To this day (post 911) I am amazed I can even get on a plane or cross the border. I have done nothing wrong but suspect someday I will have more
problems.
If we need to rely on border guards to determine who should and should not be put on "blacklists".. we have big problems with our intelligence
agencies.. I would really hope that people gathering intelligence and adding peoples names to lists wouldn't be sitting in a little booth at border.
The border guards job should be to determine if someone is on a "blacklist" or not, if their documents are real or false, if the person is who they
say they are, and if they are smuggling anything, etc.
I think we would be far better off to leave adding people to "blacklists" to the CIA/NSA/FBI etc... We can assume they have a college degree (no
guarantee that they learned anything) and can check and verify fact from fiction before the determine somebody's fate long before they get to our
borders. That is, unless you want some guy with a GED sitting in a 3ft x 3ft booth in 110 degree heat to be your judge and jury for something you
may not have even done.
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bajaguy
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how many kids could have a first name of Mango????
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