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BMG
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bob and Susan
you know that diesel van is too BIG for la paz
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It's paid for. It will haul all my wife's stuff plus the smaller car on a trailer. It makes a good storage locker.
I think the world is run by C- students.
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Hook
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BMG
I am going to start looking into some of my options this week.
Spending even $1000 to import a vehicle worth less than $3000 just doesn't make sense to me.
Another problem with CA registration would be the required proof of insurance. Since the vehicle won't be in the U.S. anymore, can't see paying for
U.S. insurance. I suppose I could submit proof and then cancel but would have to do it every year.
This move is supposed to simplify our lives. Maybe I need to get a bicycle or a cart and burro. |
Let's see if JZ jumps in. I believe he said there is a form available from Cal DMV that allows you to keep registration current w/o having insurance.
It was NOT the certificate of non-operation, but something similar.
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Alan
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BMG
It's paid for. It will haul all my wife's stuff plus the smaller car on a trailer. It makes a good storage locker. |
Care to rent it just to move my boat from the airport storage yard to the launch ramp and back so I can fly in and not have to drive just so I have a
tow vehicle?? A one-ton diesel would do the job nicely!
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CaboRon
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
| Quote: | Originally posted by BMG
I am going to start looking into some of my options this week.
Spending even $1000 to import a vehicle worth less than $3000 just doesn't make sense to me.
Another problem with CA registration would be the required proof of insurance. Since the vehicle won't be in the U.S. anymore, can't see paying for
U.S. insurance. I suppose I could submit proof and then cancel but would have to do it every year.
This move is supposed to simplify our lives. Maybe I need to get a bicycle or a cart and burro. |
Let's see if JZ jumps in. I believe he said there is a form available from Cal DMV that allows you to keep registration current w/o having insurance.
It was NOT the certificate of non-operation, but something similar. |
The certificate is the "Affidavit of Non-Use" and AAA usually has copies in their office. It has to be mailed to the state. If you cross into the
US again you have to notify CA DMV and get amerikan insurance.
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You could do what I just did .... and that is register your vehicle in South Dakota. I just completed my title transfer and just received my
SD plates and tags. There is no smog requirement and no insurance requirement. You do need a US mailing address. You do not need a South
Dakota drivers liscence.
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-CaboRon
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aliibike
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The vehicle stuff down here is the biggest catch 22 for most of us. I don't know anyone in South or North Dakota, so that wasn't an option for me. I
ended up registering in California so I would have my name on the registration/title. One thing about California, if you jump through all their hoops
you walk away with license plates and tags the same day. It would have been cheaper in Colorado, but I would have to wait 6 weeks for the plates.
Turns out I have to wait till next year to import the truck because of the age. If you go the non-operation route with California, you don't get the
tags. Till this year I sent in my Lewis and Lewis Mexican insurance along with the Statement of Fact form saying that the vehicle wasn't in California
to bypass the smog check. Now they won't accept the Mexican insurance, even though the vehicle isn't in California. And, I know that with an FM3 I
don't need to have current registration..........just try explaining that to every cop you come across. Current registration violations are their
tortillas and frijoles! That is the easiest way to get pulled over. I want to thank everyone for their input! I'll let you know how the import goes
next year!
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CaboRon
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allibake,
FYI .... South Dakota title is in my name ... You don't need to use a SD address.... You don't need to know anyone in South Dakota ..... You only
need a mailing address anywhere in the US .... You do not need a South Dakota drivers liscence .... You do not need proof of insurance .... and the
title transfer , for me, was handled quickly and in a friendly small town manner .... I spoke directly with the county treasurer in Clay County ...
And unlike CAlifornia ... you are not dealing with some faceless bearucrat, but with a real human being who answers her own phone. which I find
remarkable in this day and age.
Just wanted to clear those misconceptions up.
- CaboRon
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BajaWarrior
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Ok, my experiance at the DMV California regarding keeping a vehicle registered current but not wanting to return the vehicle each two years for smog
and not needing U.S. insurance.
I have an 88' Toyota 4x4 that has been in Baja and is used strictly for beach/desert off road use. Bought the little beauty back in 88' and it has
been on an non-op since 94' when I decided to leave it full time at my Beach House in Baja.
I went to the DMV to get the vehicle currently registered so I could bring it home from time to time for maintenence and also comply with Mexican law
and have the registration current without the smog or insurance.
I brought along a map and a copy of my lease, but they told me my house was too close to the border and that it would have to be more than 600 miles
south in order to qualify for this exemption and to use the form designed for this.
Since my vehicle is strictly used for off road and is never used as a town car, I went with the "green sticker" (off road like a buggy or ATV), which
keeps me current ($21 per two years) no more smogs and no more U.S. insurance. I do happen to have a triple axle car hauler so that is how I transport
it, just like a buggy or ATV.
It's a great solution for people who have vehicles like mine that are for off- road use only.
Also, I have an 85' Bronco ll with the same status.
Even though both vehicles are in good running order, they will always remain in Baja, and will never be needed back at home, even if they are replaced
with newer models.
Haven't had a bad trip yet....
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aliibike
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Cabo Ron! Sounds like heaven. You don't live there, have no local mailing address, never had the car registered in South Dakota, and you call them on
the phone to arrange the whole thing? They just accept all that you mail them and register the vehicle? No ID verification? I think you should guard
this information more than the 7 Sisters! If it gets out everyone will do it!
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CaboRon
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| Quote: | Originally posted by aliibike
Cabo Ron! Sounds like heaven. You don't live there, have no local mailing address, never had the car registered in South Dakota, and you call them on
the phone to arrange the whole thing? They just accept all that you mail them and register the vehicle? No ID verification? I think you should guard
this information more than the 7 Sisters! If it gets out everyone will do it! |
You do surrender your CA title .....
I don't guard information .... it is not mine to guard, especially since I got this information on a Nomad thread a couple of months ago.
There was nothing dishonest or illegal about this transaction and I was very honest as to the circumstances of my moving to Mexico with the SD
authorities.
This Forum is all about the free exchange of information ...
Take Care,
- CaboRon
And no, it's not heaven, but I have seen the state and , it does have some great places to visit ..... for instance have you ever been to the Corn
Palace in Mitchel, South DAkota ... it is actually a large building that is faced in dried colored corn each year .... kind like a huge Rose Bowl
Parade entry.
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