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I don't know what you people are reading, or smoking, but the comments were about Laredo TX to Michigan. Must have been a typo somewhere. They are
also building a corridor, per NAFTA, from Nogales to Canada. Hence the new bridge bypass of Hover Dam. The largest construction project on West
Coast.
Proud husband of a legal immigrant.
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DENNIS
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Who cares?
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Minnow
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Obviously you. As you have commented on almost every post that has been made today. Many more than once. How is the floor coming?
Proud husband of a legal immigrant.
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TMW
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| Quote: | Originally posted by oldhippie
A lot of people are having hissy fits about the NAFTA superhighway. I'm all for the idea for the simple reason it somewhat blurs national boundaries.
I don't like nationalism. It's too religious-like and there is supposed to be a separation of church and state.
The Europeans have done it. If wisdom comes with age then they may be showing North America the way. They've been struggling with the havoc caused by
nationalism for several hundred years longer than us. |
There is a lot of difference between the countries in europe and Mexico. Mexico is a third world country with no infrastrure, a corrupt government,
corrupt police etc. If Mexico was in europe I doubt it would have an open border with the other union members. I can see an open border with Canada at
some point in the future. But with Mexico not in a 100 years unless we take it over and change everything .
[Edited on 8-4-2007 by TW]
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Minnow
Obviously you. As you have commented on almost every post that has been made today. Many more than once. How is the floor coming? |
It's underfoot.
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The Gull
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Careful,
| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Yeah, Gull..............
That would be good practice.
While you're here..... I apologize for all the nastiness in the past. |
You are going to get me all weepy, again.
�I won\'t insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said.� William F. Buckley, Jr.
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toneart
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| Quote: | Originally posted by TW
| Quote: | Originally posted by oldhippie
A lot of people are having hissy fits about the NAFTA superhighway. I'm all for the idea for the simple reason it somewhat blurs national boundaries.
I don't like nationalism. It's too religious-like and there is supposed to be a separation of church and state.
The Europeans have done it. If wisdom comes with age then they may be showing North America the way. They've been struggling with the havoc caused by
nationalism for several hundred years longer than us. |
There is a lot of difference between the countries in europe and Mexico. Mexico is a third world country with no infrastrure, a corrupt government,
corrupt police etc. If Mexico was in europe I doubt it would have an open border with the other union members. I can see an open border with Canada at
some point in the future. But with Mexico not in a 100 years unless we take it over and change everything .
[Edited on 8-4-2007 by TW] |
Dateline: The Fox-Wall Street Journal
August 4, 2010
Canada's Molsen Ale Company just bought The Tecate Brewery and Mexico threw in the town as part of the deal. Canucks were spotted marching towards
Ensenada and immigrado is hoping to stop them by demanding 50 pesos each for issuing FMTs. The fierce Canadian invasion force was heavily armed with
hockey sticks and was heard chanting, "Today the border, next Guererro Negro and third, the world, eh?".......or was that, "the third world, eh?"
The United States is the big loser. NAFTA negotiated away all tariffs and The Teamsters lost the trucking rights when Vice President Gingrich cast
the deciding vote in The Senate.
Homeland Security has quarantined the beer and ale truck convoys. The trucks are sealed and escorted by the newly commissioned special police. The
Homeland Security Special police, which had been secret until President Cheney was installed by Marshall Law, looked sharp in their new brown-shirted
uniforms. The trucks are not allowed to distribute any of the cargo inside the U.S. This is the first law that was unanimously passed by both houses
of Congress. The lone dissenter was Senator Trent Lott. Tears were said to be streaming down his face.
This came just days after former President George W. Bush's intervention, when the Christian Right Moral Majority committed him to a rehab facility in
Del Rio, Texas.
Trent and me, we be thirsty. 
[Edited on 8-4-2007 by toneart]
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oldhippie
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| Quote: | Originally posted by TW
| Quote: | Originally posted by oldhippie
A lot of people are having hissy fits about the NAFTA superhighway. I'm all for the idea for the simple reason it somewhat blurs national boundaries.
I don't like nationalism. It's too religious-like and there is supposed to be a separation of church and state.
The Europeans have done it. If wisdom comes with age then they may be showing North America the way. They've been struggling with the havoc caused by
nationalism for several hundred years longer than us. |
There is a lot of difference between the countries in europe and Mexico. Mexico is a third world country with no infrastrure, a corrupt government,
corrupt police etc. If Mexico was in europe I doubt it would have an open border with the other union members. I can see an open border with Canada at
some point in the future. But with Mexico not in a 100 years unless we take it over and change everything .
[Edited on 8-4-2007 by TW] |
I knew someone would make the jump from a superhighway to open borders with Mexico. Perhaps I greased the skids with bringing up the EU, but open
borders with Mexico is way far in the future because of the disparity in per capita income between the US and Mexico. I hope the difference keeps
getting smaller by Mexico staying on its present course.
In the meantime, an agreement that was signed by all three leaders of the countries involved to increase commerce and thereby decrease the disparity
is fine with me.
As toneart pointed out, there will be problems, but they will be small compared to the problems this agreement is meant to solve.
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oldhippie
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"But with Mexico not in a 100 years unless we take it over and change everything ."
Dios mio, that's a dreadful thought. Mexico is now clear of puritanical disease. Why would you even consider contaminating a wonderful neighbor with
such polluted thinking.
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I have no desire at all of taking over Mexico. I see NAFTA as a way to move goods across the border free of tariffs and allowing manufactures to start
up assembly plants to take advantage of cheap labor. To some degree it has happened but with India and China becoming more and more into the mix I
don't think the full impact will be seen from NAFTA. It has probably hurt Mexico more that helped at least from the standpoint of tariff protections.
On the U.S. side the issue has been more with allowing Mexican trucks to travel further from the border and that has the Teamsters up in arms. It's
alright with me as long as the Mexican trucks pass the same safety checks and emission standards the U.S. trucks must do.
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toneart
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Book Description
In the New York Times bestseller The Late Great USA: The Coming Merger with Mexico and Canada, Jerome Corsi proves that the benignly-named "Security
and Prosperity Partnership," created at a meeting between George W. Bush, Stephen Harper and Vincente Fox, is in fact the same kind of regional
integration plan that led Europe to form the EU. According to Corsi, the elites in Europe who wanted to create a European nation knew that "it would
be necessary to conceal from the peoples of Europe just what was being done in their name until the process was so far advanced that it had become
irreversible." Could the same thing be happening here? Is American sovereignty doomed?
Using dozens of documents secured through the Freedom of Information Act and his trademark hard-hitting interviews, Jerome Corsi sets out a chilling
view of America's possible "harmonized" future -- one being created covertly, without voter input or Congressional oversight. Could our government's
unfathomable position on illegal immigration be tied to the prospect of an integrated North American Union?
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oldhippie
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Sounds like Corsi is suffering from paranoia. I wonder what the "chilling view" looks like? I guess I'll read the book.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by toneart
Book Description
In the New York Times bestseller The Late Great USA: The Coming Merger with Mexico and Canada, Jerome Corsi proves that the benignly-named "Security
and Prosperity Partnership," created at a meeting between George W. Bush, Stephen Harper and Vincente Fox, is in fact the same kind of regional
integration plan that led Europe to form the EU. According to Corsi, the elites in Europe who wanted to create a European nation knew that "it would
be necessary to conceal from the peoples of Europe just what was being done in their name until the process was so far advanced that it had become
irreversible." Could the same thing be happening here? Is American sovereignty doomed?
Using dozens of documents secured through the Freedom of Information Act and his trademark hard-hitting interviews, Jerome Corsi sets out a chilling
view of America's possible "harmonized" future -- one being created covertly, without voter input or Congressional oversight. Could our government's
unfathomable position on illegal immigration be tied to the prospect of an integrated North American Union? |
If its true it would explain a lot--no stand on illegals, the superhighway. I've been reading stuff here and there about it away from the LameStream
Media.
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toneart
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Mexitron
| Quote: | Originally posted by toneart
Book Description
In the New York Times bestseller The Late Great USA: The Coming Merger with Mexico and Canada, Jerome Corsi proves that the benignly-named "Security
and Prosperity Partnership," created at a meeting between George W. Bush, Stephen Harper and Vincente Fox, is in fact the same kind of regional
integration plan that led Europe to form the EU. According to Corsi, the elites in Europe who wanted to create a European nation knew that "it would
be necessary to conceal from the peoples of Europe just what was being done in their name until the process was so far advanced that it had become
irreversible." Could the same thing be happening here? Is American sovereignty doomed?
Using dozens of documents secured through the Freedom of Information Act and his trademark hard-hitting interviews, Jerome Corsi sets out a chilling
view of America's possible "harmonized" future -- one being created covertly, without voter input or Congressional oversight. Could our government's
unfathomable position on illegal immigration be tied to the prospect of an integrated North American Union? |
If its true it would explain a lot--no stand on illegals, the superhighway. I've been reading stuff here and there about it away from the LameStream
Media. |
Yes, that's what I am thinking. I wrote the parody earlier in this string before reading the book review, but I too have seen references to this Super
Highway plan, secretly in the works.
I don't think it will be good for the U.S.A., but for different reasons than the perceived immigration threat most people are focusing on. It would
not be a people friendly project. It would benefit the North American Corporate masters that our governments serve. The idea that our politicians
serve "We the People" has been a charade for a long time. People are slow to believe it or don't want to believe it because they are hoodwinked by
secrecy and lies. I do have reservations about the credibility of Dr. Corsi, the author, but he says he has obtained his information from the Freedom
of Information Act.
The charade is becoming more apparent now though. Lies will always become apparent. Deception is designed to cover up malevolent deeds. They fall on
the side of wrong, and right will prevail, hopefully before it is too late. I am working to help restore our country to the proud, rule of law under
our great Constitution, welcoming society that was once our grand heritage. 
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