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Al G
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Marie-Rose
Thanks Al
If is the vet from el refugio in Pescadero I am familiar with him and quite frankly surprised that he was not able to diagnose. What a drag for
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This Vet is fine...it is the one in town 1 block west of Baraja tacos...pink building with paw prints...I think Alan is right "The Vets in TS
(Franzoni, Gabriel, et al.) sometimes have trouble diagnosing mange mites "
He scraped both dogs twice and Nada...he said it was the dirt in TS...these dogs suffered for 3 months. Not to mention Chuck and Suzanne...cat
too...no fun giving a cat shots
Albert G
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bajamigo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Al G
| Quote: | Originally posted by bajamigo
| Quote: | Originally posted by Cypress
Mix sulphur with motor oil and smear it on the mangey areas. It's messy,
nasty, and smelly, but will rid the dog of mange.
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Here's a quote from www.marvistavet.com. While it talks about dipping, the risk of the animal licking areas where motor oil is applied seems pretty drastic.
WE WISH IT WASN’T NECESSARY TO ADD THIS
In older times, some 30 years ago, dipping dogs with demodectic mange in motor oil was a popular home remedy. Skin exposure to motor oil can cause
rashes and skin destruction in severe cases. The hydrocarbons can be absorbed through the skin and cause a dangerous drop in blood pressure. If motor
oil is licked off the coat, resultant vomiting can lead to aspiration of motor oil into the lungs and pneumonia. Kidney and liver damage can result
from motor oil dipping.
PLEASE: DO NOT DIP YOUR DOG IN MOTOR OIL!
[Edited on 8-26-2007 by bajamigo] |
I am reading this thread sorta late...it is good you are posting this warning. I do not believe there are any marooons on this board that would take
sulfur and motor oil seriously. I know you are trying to be nice, but it is totally irresponsible to post crap like that. |
I'm not trying to be nice, though you may want to consider making an effort in that direction yourself. JUST IN CASE someone mistakenly believes in
the palliative effects of motor oil on animals, a quote from a highly respected veterinary site doesn't really seem to be "crap" or "totally
irresponsible."
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bajaguy
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???
How about new Mobile One synthetic oil???
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Cypress
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I'm a little bit confused, but all my K-9's and kitties are mange-free and healthy, thanks to motor oil and sulphur.  Somebody questioned whether or not I'd swab my kids with oil and
sulphur. My kids don't have mange.
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Debra
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Oh boy, here we go..................
As a brand new dog owner (first dog in 30 plus years, short of being parinoid and keeping my mutt in a fish bowl, what should I do?) I'm not asking
treatment, I'm asking provention., vacine, power?..........HELP! (cats are soooooooo much easier :?
Mean people suck!
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Marie-Rose
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Debra
Congrats on the dog. Wouldn't be without ours... itching and all
 If you look on the thread entitled "mange" Selkie (vet)
suggests Revolution... that's what I am going to try!!!!
Remember, when in Mexico, yes may be no and no may be
maybe!
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BCSTech
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| Quote: | | I'm not asking treatment, I'm asking provention., vacine, |
Keep your dog healthy with clean water,
high-quality nutritional food, and love. Also, they can benefit from frequent baths to remove dead skin and hair.
Like with humans, good health is the best prevention for disease. Mange is an opportunistic disease in that it often attacks weaker dogs with
compromised immune systems or other health problems. Once it gets started, it can pull down the dog's health even further.
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Al G
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| Quote: | | Quote: | | Quote: | Originally posted by bajamigo
| Quote: | Originally posted by Cypress
Mix sulphur with motor oil and smear it on the mangey areas. It's messy,
nasty, and smelly, but will rid the dog of mange.
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Here's a quote from www.marvistavet.com. While it talks about dipping, the risk of the animal licking areas where motor oil is applied seems pretty drastic.
WE WISH IT WASN’T NECESSARY TO ADD THIS
In older times, some 30 years ago, dipping dogs with demodectic mange in motor oil was a popular home remedy. Skin exposure to motor oil can cause
rashes and skin destruction in severe cases. The hydrocarbons can be absorbed through the skin and cause a dangerous drop in blood pressure. If motor
oil is licked off the coat, resultant vomiting can lead to aspiration of motor oil into the lungs and pneumonia. Kidney and liver damage can result
from motor oil dipping.
PLEASE: DO NOT DIP YOUR DOG IN MOTOR OIL!
[Edited on 8-26-2007 by bajamigo] |
I am reading this thread sorta late...it is good you are posting this warning. I do not believe there are any marooons on this board that would take
sulfur and motor oil seriously. I know you are trying to be nice, but it is totally irresponsible to post crap like that. |
I'm not trying to be nice, though you may want to consider making an effort in that direction yourself. JUST IN CASE someone mistakenly believes in
the palliative effects of motor oil on animals, a quote from a highly respected veterinary site doesn't really seem to be "crap" or "totally
irresponsible."
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You mis-read what I wrote...the above was meant for Cypress's recommendation for motor oil and sulfur...and he is still claiming it is OK He has been told the dogs suffer, because of it, and still he makes claims as to
the health of his animals. I say to him take a pad soaked in motor oil and sulfur and tape it to the inside of his wrist for 24 hours...for good
measure take a tablespoon and drink it too. If it is good enough for his dogs it should be good enough for him...RIGHT
Edit: darn I just re-read my post and no wonder you were upset...it should have said...I know you are trying to be nice, but Cypress
is totally irresponsible to post crap like that.
I apoligize...sometime my fingers tells my mind to shut-up for a minute..
[Edited on 8-30-2007 by Al G]
Albert G
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Al G
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| Quote: | Keep your dog healthy with clean water, high-quality nutritional food, and love. Also, they can benefit
from frequent baths to remove dead skin and hair.
Like with humans, good health is the best prevention for disease. Mange is an opportunistic disease in that it often attacks weaker dogs with
compromised immune systems or other health problems. Once it gets started, it can pull down the dog's health even further. |
I agree with what you say...it makes good sense, but are you saying your animals will not attract mange mites from infected animals, if they are clean
and healthy... I am fairly sure Chuck and Suzanne were clean and healthy...they still got infected...their doctor took scrapings and they both had mites. I
guess what I am getting at is some people will accept clean and healthy as immunity and will not worry about their animals or kids, being around other
mangy animals...
Sorry if I misunderstood...animals are important to me.
Albert G
Remember, if you haven\'t got a smile on your face and laughter in your heart, then you are just a sour old fart!....
The most precious thing we have is life, yet it has absolutely no trade-in value.
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Selkie
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mange
OK guys- I hope this clears things up.
Sarcoptic mange is caused by the sarcoptes mite. It is spread by direct contact. It will chew on people, but it won't live on you. It is intensely
itching. Revolution will kill it.
Demodectic mange is caused by the demodex mite. It infects chronically ill animals, and I see it more commonly in young short-haired dogs. It is not
contagious. Dogs itch only when they have secondary staph infection. Itching is nowhere near as intense. It is a lot more difficult to treat-may
take a few months and more expensive. We have 2 different treatments for demodex: 4 dips with Amitraz each 2 weeks apart, or several months on
ivermectin given orally.
Gail (Selkie)
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BCSTech
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Many Vets believe almost all dogs and some humans have some mites. Sarcoptic Mange is definitely more contagious and harder to detect.
I'm certainly no Vet but here is some info about the presence of mange mites and their relationship to immunity and genetic predisposition:
Demodectic Mites and Mange
Sarcoptic Mites and Mange
[Edited on 8-30-2007 by BCSTech]
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Cypress
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Being irresponsible and full of crap isn't all that bad. Only have one 12yr old
Brittany. He's deaf, and has arthritis, when he crosses that bridge into dog heaven there'll be no more dogs for me. I'll never put oil and sulphur on a dog again.
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bajamigo
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POSTED BY AL G:
"Edit: darn I just re-read my post and no wonder you were upset...it should have said...I know you are trying to be nice, but Cypress is totally
irresponsible to post crap like that.
I apoligize...sometime my fingers tells my mind to shut-up for a minute.."
Al, no offense taken. I should have recognized the error myself.
[Edited on 8-30-2007 by bajamigo]
[Edited on 8-30-2007 by bajamigo]
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Marie-Rose
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I think Baja pet lovers just need to realize that even their healthy well looked after dogs can easily get infected with sarcoptic mange. Looking
back, our Heeler contracted this mite several weeks before we left and he was only out of our yard for his morning walks, rarely in contact with other
dogs.
I will be using Revolution on all of our dogs... now another problem, don't believe we can get Revolution in Canada or Mexico. Can you buy it over
the counter in the States?
Remember, when in Mexico, yes may be no and no may be
maybe!
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bajamigo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Marie-Rose
I think Baja pet lovers just need to realize that even their healthy well looked after dogs can easily get infected with sarcoptic mange. Looking
back, our Heeler contracted this mite several weeks before we left and he was only out of our yard for his morning walks, rarely in contact with other
dogs.
I will be using Revolution on all of our dogs... now another problem, don't believe we can get Revolution in Canada or Mexico. Can you buy it over
the counter in the States? |
Try this link:
http://www.1800petmeds.com/pselect.asp?LV=201&PG=Revolut...
[Edited on 8-31-2007 by bajamigo]
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Al G
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Cypress
Being irresponsible and full of crap isn't all that bad. Only have one 12yr old
Brittany. He's deaf, and has arthritis, when he crosses that bridge into dog heaven there'll be no more dogs for me. I'll never put oil and sulphur on a dog again. |
Thank you Cypress...Dogs (all animals)are our dear friends...we should never treat them any different then our children...I think I am near your age
and have waited a very long time so I could a friend/child again... Being single and working all the time to retire would not be fair...I would not
be able to concentrate at work. I hope you change your mind about another dog...
Albert G
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