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Baja is a lot safer than the mainland... |
What is your source for this. |
Its a well known fact, i dont need sources.
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Yeah, maybe if you are considering Mexico City against BOLA. Otherwise, I don't think your blanket and un-sourced comments work. Have you heard
about the little crime wave in Baja Norte? Any place with a large population will have bad patches. We are talking about Sonora here anyway in
reference to the mainland. What are your facts regarding Sonora or Mazatlan in Sinaloa?
Those kind of comments are what got you hammered a couple years back.
[Edited on 12-27-2007 by JZ]
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Pretty funny. I live on the mainland and I don't worry about anything. But I wouldn't begin to think about travelling between Ensenada and the
border.
Uncited "well known fact" that is nothing but a personal opinion.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by JZ
Yeah, maybe if you are considering Mexico City against BOLA. Otherwise, I don't think your blanket and un-sourced comments work. Have you heard
about the little crime wave in Baja Norte? Any place with a large population will have bad patches. We are talking about Sonora here anyway in
reference to the mainland. What are your facts regarding Sonora or Mazatlan in Sinaloa?
Those kind of comments are what got you hammered a couple years back.
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Sonora and Sinaloa are the drug trafficking capitals of Mexico, very violent places where roberies, kidnappings, and rapes have been going on for
decades. Thats just common knowledge here in Mexico, that why i said that i dont need any sources, anybody in Mexico knows that.
relax.
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| Quote: | quote]Originally posted by JESSE
Sonora and Sinaloa are the drug trafficking capitals of Mexico, very violent places where roberies, kidnappings, and rapes have been going on for
decades. Thats just common knowledge here in Mexico, that why i said that i dont need any sources, anybody in Mexico knows that.
relax. |
Relax? and listen to your blanket bs statements? Have you actually ever been to Sonora?? Your words suggest you haven't. Back your stuff up with
facts? If you are speaking about a specific place(s) in Sinoloa name them. Don't generalize. Don't speak about things you don't know.
You won't catch me hanging out in TJ anytime soon. But I have no worries going to Hermosillo, Nogales, or Mazatlan.
[Edited on 12-27-2007 by JZ]
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Pescador.....................Where to you camp on the beach between Rocky Point and Bahia Kino? |
I used to explore all those roads and trails and in times past the areas around Libertad and Desemboque were great. On the road from Kino through
Desemboque to Libertad there were little roads that went to the sea side. Since there were lots of drug smuggling that went on, the army patrolled
the area pretty well so we felt somewhat safer knowing the army was around and knew of our whereabouts. In the late 60's or early 70's, I met several
Seri woodcarvers doing Ironwood carvings and traded packets of sandpaper for some really beautiful carvings.
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That area is great. We camped at Desemboque last year for new years. We had the entire beach to ourselves.
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Pescador.....thanks for the info.
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Anyone know the driving time from Tucson to Desemboque? Would you take the 15 to Caborca then over to Desemboque?
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| Quote: | | Quote: | Originally posted by JZ
quote]Originally posted by JESSE
Sonora and Sinaloa are the drug trafficking capitals of Mexico, very violent places where roberies, kidnappings, and rapes have been going on for
decades. Thats just common knowledge here in Mexico, that why i said that i dont need any sources, anybody in Mexico knows that.
relax. |
Relax? and listen to your blanket bs statements? Have you actually ever been to Sonora?? Your words suggest you haven't. Back your stuff up with
facts? If you are speaking about a specific place(s) in Sinoloa name them. Don't generalize. Don't speak about things you don't know.
You won't catch me hanging out in TJ anytime soon. But I have no worries going to Hermosillo, Nogales, or Mazatlan.
[Edited on 12-27-2007 by JZ] |
I have family in Cananea, Hermosillo, and Ciudad Obregon, i know exactly what i am talking about.
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I have dozens of friends in Hermosillo and Orbegon. I visit those towns regularly. What you are saying is not the truth.
[Edited on 12-28-2007 by JZ]
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Last time I checked, there were 31 states in Mexico. 2 of them are in Baja and Jesse, the self proclaimed expert on the risks of travelling the
mainland has identified 2 states with problem. Seems to me using my simple math that leaves 27 states on the mainland without a problem according to
Jesse.
Doesn't sound like it is alot more dangerous to me. That is the problem with these gross generalizations, they don't hold water.
Yes there are dangerous places in Mexico. There are dangerous places in the US. Keep with the facts, not generalizations.
I agree Culíacan is a major drug area, but that didn't stop me from spending a night there. Did I see or experience any violence? No.
Jesse, you are entitled to your opinion, but Mexico is a big country, much larger than Sinaloa, Sonora, BCS & BCN.
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There are 50 states in the US and they all have good and bad areas.
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Look guys, do what ever you want, ask any Mexican that knows even a little about what he is talking about, and he will know just like most people in
this nation, that Sonora and Sinaloa are to Mexico what Sicily is to organized crime in Italy.
Fact is wether you like it or not, Baja is a lot safer.
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You have trouble admitting that your original statement that the mainland is more dangerous could be wrong. If you want to compare Sinaloa or Sonora
to the Baja that is one thing, but to make a grand statement that the mainland is more dangerous is absolutely wrong!
All you have to do is admit that you are talking about the two states, not all of the mainland. We all make mistakes, repeat after me.........I
mispoke, I should have been more specific.
Now that didn't hurt too much did it?
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Dang, talk about thread jacking.
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