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bancoduo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by The Gull
| Quote: | Originally posted by kimberlee
So Mexicans have to leave their own country to get the education that their government won't give them? I just hope the Mexican government is paying
for it and not the American tax payers. |
In another post, you stated that you are a Mexican living in Mexico.
I do find it interesting that you "just hope the Mexican government is paying for it [educating Mexicans in the US] and not the American tax payers."
Just interesting... |
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Russ
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n ten sum uf is jist dun no ow ti spil
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kimberlee
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| Quote: | Originally posted by The Gull
| Quote: | Originally posted by kimberlee
So Mexicans have to leave their own country to get the education that their government won't give them? I just hope the Mexican government is paying
for it and not the American tax payers. |
In another post, you stated that you are a Mexican living in Mexico.
I do find it interesting that you "just hope the Mexican government is paying for it [educating Mexicans in the US] and not the American tax payers."
Just interesting... |
it is intersting isn't it? I'm a naturalized citizen and a us citizen as well. before coming t mexico to live I was very supportive of Mexican
immigrants. I still am. The problem I have observed is that the mexican government and elites are really really pushing for their adult citizens to
move out of mexico and send money from a foreign country back here to take care of the citizenry that they refust to take care of. it took several
years for me to do a complete 180 on my original belief and I now believe it is best that those able bodied mexican adults stay here in mexico and
demand quality education from their government and put responsibility on their government to not be corrupt. mexico has more natural resources than
most countries and if educated, the mexican citizens could rise up and keep up with technology and bring their country up to standards where their
people can live a dignified life. i am bringing up my mexican born children and adopted mexican children to have the attitude to stay in their
country, and improve it for the future. i won't mention the economic and social devistation that mass exodus of adults from this country to the usa
has on the citizenry of both sides. so i may sound like a bigot to those who haven't thought this out completely, to those who haven't experienced
what life is like in small villages of michoacan, oaxaca, guerrero, chiapas where there are no men and women between the ages of 15 and 55, only old
persons caring for their childrens children. this has to stop for the good of both our countries.
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Oso
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In case anyone seriously wants to know, yes the Mexican gov't, through the non-profit IME, is paying for the Plazas Comunitarias.
All my childhood I wanted to be older. Now I\'m older and this chitn sucks.
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Kimberly- you are so right - this is so wrong
They are using mexican education funds as a public relations tool, because they need to keep the money flowing.
Do your schools in BAJA get their fair share of pesos?
This is also about LA as a sanctuary city - come one come all... we have been sold out by our MECHA driven politicians
here in LA. Yes Dennis we are losing our GUMBO. We are creating the biggest welfare states in the world. "Go to school for breakfast and lunch, and
if they teach you something miho- o.k "
Kimberly- do you think that these kids educated here will ever go back to live in the rural villages?
OSO - Yes there are opportunities for citizenship classes and english speaking classes, and there is definitly a need for educating some of these
expatriots in spanish to get them up to speed. Currently these programs are run by charitable organizations,churches, and yes the local school
districts. Would you not agree that The Mex gov't's heart is not involved, and that it is not only the money flow.
This is a power grab and and a middle finger to the U.S.
Maybe a little harsh- they are definitly exploiting this hole in US policy.
I have sponsored two of my workers in the amnisty program.
They now speak fluent english and look forward to their social security checks being sent to them in mex when they retire. Most others only want to
live here as cheap as posible
to maximize the money sent home. I see mexico as a welfare state, so many of there people are dependant from northern money, Like a big bird nest at
dawn full of insatiable open mouths.
I to have done a 180- I would not sponsor anyone again.
I feel like a pawn being played........ I am losing my humanity and my country..
And yes somebody please pull the feather out of his burro and poke it in his eye!
 Sorry for the rant, but I feel better!
[Edited on 1-20-2008 by coconaco]
THE MINNOW must be lost!!!!!
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kimberlee
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I hear an unusual silence from the gaviota. so no reply to my and conoco's posts on this gully
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CaboRon
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Kimberlee,
I applaud you for your well thought out post here, and conoco also. These are not popular beliefs, but I think you hit the nail on the head. The
emigration of the Mexican people is so the Mexican government doesn't have to come to terms with it's responsibilities to it's citizens. In spite of
what one old dirty bird might say.
CaboRon
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| Quote: | Originally posted by coconaco
OSO - Yes there are opportunities for citizenship classes and english speaking classes, and there is definitly a need for educating some of these
expatriots in spanish to get them up to speed. Currently these programs are run by charitable organizations,churches, and yes the local school
districts. Would you not agree that The Mex gov't's heart is not involved, and that it is not only the money flow.
This is a power grab and and a middle finger to the U.S.
Maybe a little harsh- they are definitly exploiting this hole in US policy.
[Edited on 1-20-2008 by coconaco] |
I have no desire to defend the Mexican, U.S. or any government and am not in a position to influence the policies of any such. I deal with people and
the realities in which they and I find ourselves. To me, government actions are like the weather. If it's cold, I put on a jacket. If it's hot, I
take it off. I may gripe about it or enjoy it, but it will do as it likes regardless of my opinion.
All my childhood I wanted to be older. Now I\'m older and this chitn sucks.
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CaboRon
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Oso,
A very thoughtful response .... and also very true.
CaboRon
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| Quote: | | Quote: | | [Edited on 1-20-2008 by coconaco] |
I have no desire to defend the Mexican, U.S. or any government and am not in a position to influence the policies of any such. I deal with people and
the realities in which they and I find ourselves. To me, government actions are like the weather. If it's cold, I put on a jacket. If it's hot, I
take it off. I may gripe about it or enjoy it, but it will do as it likes regardless of my opinion. |
Well put....but some folks would opt to build a foundation, add 4 walls, a roof, some doors and windows and eventually climate control the place.
They would probably not be willing to be forced to share this with anybody who was culturally, geographically, financially or linguistically or
architecturally incapable of doing it for themselves.
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bajadedom
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Marty is correct - it's 'Guarantee' ....so if you're in the correcting mode you should at least be correct in your correction.(and Gull-Notice my use
of 'your' and 'you're' is as you stated...correct!)
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