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[*] posted on 2-15-2008 at 10:12 AM


Yeah, I also feel a bit suspicious about the picture... possible but not probable, I guess. Too bad... no longer can we truthfully say 'a picture is worth a thousand words'.

I just wanted to make the point that many of us everyday folks do regulary use Photoshop, and few of us are 'doctoring' our images.

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[*] posted on 2-15-2008 at 03:13 PM
I think this settles the question.


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February 15, 2008 – 'Lectronic Latitude

In Monday 'Lectronic, we ran a sensational photo of a whale and a dolphin frolicking together, said to have been taken near Punta Mita by a cruiser. We asked our readers if anybody knew if this interspecies behavior is common. As a result, inquisitive Take a few minutes to look. reader C.M. White did some research on the internet, and found . . . that the photo wasn't taken by the person who was said to have taken it, and had been taken in Hawaii rather than Mexico! One of the things that fooled us was that the background indeed looked more like Punta Mita than Hawaii. It turns out that the photo was taken by Lori Mazzuca, and won first place for Professionals in the Mammal category of the National Wildlife Awards photo competition.

So we did a little investigation, and it turns out that the woman who was said to have taken the photo knew nothing about it, nor did the owner of the boat it was said to have been taken from. It was all a poorly thought out joke by someone who didn't realize how many people would be embarassed as a result. The moral of the story is not to make false claims on behalf of other people. This is especially true on the internet, because your chances of being found out are very high.

Our sincerest apologies to those who were set up, and to photographer Lori Mazzuca. If you visit www.mnh.si.edu/exhibits/natures_best_2006/gallery/humpbackwh... there's an interesting explanation of the circumstances in which she took the photo. You'll no longer find the photo on 'Lectronic, because we took it down.

http://www.mnh.si.edu/exhibits/natures_best_2006/gallery/hum...

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[*] posted on 2-15-2008 at 03:43 PM


Wow!
I've had that picture (whale & dolphin) up on my bulletin board at work for a couple years (i just pulled it down). I clipped it out of National Geographic. This investigative work kind of burst my bubble :no:
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[*] posted on 2-15-2008 at 07:52 PM


Thanks BMG for the research/info. This is not only an incredible photo, her explanation for what happened is even more so.
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First Place - Mammals - Professional, National Wildlife Awards

HUMPBACK WHALE AND DOLPHIN
Kauai, Hawaii, USA

Lori Mazzuca
Kailua Kona, hawaii, USA

“I was observing a strange interaction between a pair of bottlenose dolphins and a humpback whale, when it became apparent that the two species were collaborating in some way. The dolphin was lying on a humpback whale’s head while it was slowly swimming along. Looking through my camera lens the stunt appeared to be orchestrated by mutual “agreement.” The whale very slowly—and vertically—lifted the dolphin into the air. I expected the dolphin to wriggle atop the humpback’s head to get off, but it just laid still and arched, trying to stay on top of the whale’s snout. In this frame the dolphin was beginning its slippery return to the sea. Once back in the ocean, the dolphin swiftly swam away with the other dolphin, leaping joyfully as if they had just scored a coup!”

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[*] posted on 2-16-2008 at 01:17 AM
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Most people don't open or resize ordinary photos in Adobe. It takes a few minutes just to launch the program. I suppose some use it for everyday simple stuff but I'd guess this is doctored.


I suppose I should have said: "I don't use Adobe to resize because it takes to long to load(on my computer) and gobbles up resources." I have other programs that do a fine and quick job of resizing.

So sorry.
I still think that pic is a work. Something odd but I can't put my mouse on it.:lol:




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[*] posted on 2-16-2008 at 09:08 AM


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Some very good photos. One of my favorite:




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[*] posted on 2-16-2008 at 09:47 AM


Nice sleuthing, Sharks & BMG. By the way, BMG.....I can't hang with you because i am not an expert on anything.:no:



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[*] posted on 2-16-2008 at 09:55 AM


This is mine from Brooks River, Katmai National Park, Alaska:



This is unaltered. I think the one vandenberg posted is real also, made by Tom Mangelson, a famous wildlife photographer who did a lot of work in Alaska.

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[*] posted on 2-16-2008 at 09:58 AM


Same bear, a few seconds later:

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[*] posted on 2-16-2008 at 10:08 AM


Ken,
Have no pictures ( can't find them ) from a trip to the Athabasca river in B.C.
Bears lined up like anglers , dozens of them, with every one of them catching salmon. Quite a spectacle. This was in the 60's though.
Was back there in the 90's, same time of year, and , still bears there, but only a few.




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Ken,
Have no pictures ( can't find them ) from a trip to the Athabasca river in B.C.
Bears lined up like anglers , dozens of them, with every one of them catching salmon. Quite a spectacle. This was in the 60's though.
Was back there in the 90's, same time of year, and , still bears there, but only a few.


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I took these about ten years ago in Katmai. I thought the bears feeding on salmon here was one of the greatest sights I have ever seen in nature. There were plenty of bears in the river then, probably 10-15 in the pool below these falls. It was difficult to make a photo with only one bear in it. Hope things haven't changed too much.

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[*] posted on 2-16-2008 at 10:44 AM


What wonderful photos, Ken - and what a marvelous experience, seeing that. Thanks.

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[*] posted on 2-16-2008 at 12:36 PM


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BMG.....I can't hang with you because i am not an expert on anything.:no:


I have been known to hang out with non-experts before.

And always will when they are buying.:lol:




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[*] posted on 2-17-2008 at 09:37 PM


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Originally posted by Ken Bondy
This is mine from Brooks River, Katmai National Park, Alaska:



This is unaltered. I think the one vandenberg posted is real also, made by Tom Mangelson, a famous wildlife photographer who did a lot of work in Alaska.

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Just a few comments about salmon leaping up waterfalls. It's one of the most spellbinding things I've ever witnessed.

I spent several hours on the Kenai peninsula watching them work their way up the lower falls on the Russian river. I could not believe how hard that was to accomplish and how much they worked at it. Very few have the power to simply leap out of the bottom pool to the top of the falls. Most leap upwards and make it about halfway up the falls. These guys then swim up against the current to the top. What I'm trying to say is that they drop into freefalling water and just swim like crazy straight up. It's unbelievable.

Some, and I would say the majority, never jump at all. They swim up the water fall. Now just imagine that if you will. The fish has to swim through the water faster than it's dropping. It's worse than even that appears as it's not a solid wall of water they're swimming against. There are air pockets throughout and the thickness of the water mass is often not wide enough to allow the tail to generate the proper force.

I just sat and watched the entire process unfold. Most fish would swim part way up the wall of water and fall back unsuccessfully. Almost every fish would try repeatedly until finally succeeding. But occasionally a fish would appear that would just plough his way up as if nothing.

It's no wonder that bears gather at these spots.

The salmon in the picture appears to be either sockeyes or chums. It's hard to say until they get their spawning colors.
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[*] posted on 2-18-2008 at 11:14 AM
Photoshop too?


I shot this whale on the Malecon in La Paz.

Photo detectives have noticed that my whale is dry. Wouldn't it be dripping if it just breached?

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