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[*] posted on 4-6-2008 at 01:52 PM


Thanks Kodiak. Wasn't sure of the spelling on that diclofenaco. I know my dad is also allergic to aspirin so no problem there.



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[*] posted on 4-6-2008 at 01:54 PM


Mike - There is one item available in Mexico and not that I know of in the US... Magna Vida. It is a form of magnesium salts and a number of Mexicans I've known from the Sur swear by it. I have also known 3 gringos who feel it really helps to cure what ails ya.

The salts are 100% pure cloruro de magnesio, a powdered form that mixes easily with water. After mixing it is stored in a glass container at room temp (easy for travel). A 1/4 cup is to be taken each morning and, for some, each evening.

I have a severe form of what was originally juvenile arthritis. I do not take the Magna Vida, although I have a supply of it that I keep thinking I ought to try. I've not been able to find out much about the long term effects of ingesting magnesium salts, and that's my hesitation. I do know - how to say this - it loosens your stools.

Some but not all farmacias carry it.... mostly it's the older pharmacists who know of it. The farmacia in the Mulege town square has ordered it for my friend, although that took several weeks. I found it in a large Tijuana downtown famacia... also in a couple of small neighborhood farmacias in La Paz. It is inexpensive.

If you're interested in trying it and don't find some easily, send me a u2u... I'd be willing to share a box from my supply.

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[*] posted on 4-6-2008 at 02:12 PM


Nena...You may have made the right choice. That is..if this is the same thing.

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[*] posted on 4-6-2008 at 02:32 PM


Nope, not the same stuff. Magna Vida is available many places in the world (I found it under another name at an Ayurvedic site) and is taken by an apparently large populace. How it is processed seems to be quite important to taking it orally. No one I know has complained about stomach or gastric side effects other than to say it helps if you are prone to constipation.

Mind you - I'm not saying y'all should do this... I'm simply saying it's done, I know people who take it and feel/seem much healthier since they began.

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[*] posted on 4-6-2008 at 04:52 PM


A few of thoughts on the subject. It is clear that one size does not fit all.

Grape juice with Certo, liquid fruit pectin helps some people. Get pure juice, not juice c-cktail. Quart bottle and one packet of liquid pectin per bottle. Drink small glass every day.

Cherry juice concentrate. One tablespoon per day.

Six dried cherries per day.

Celebrex is a wonder drug for some but has been found to increase risk of heart disease.

Ultram works like a charm for me.

Mota is a treatment of choice. In Oregon we are fortunate enough to have it legaly available through perscription. There are still Federal restrictions on it's posession or use. This will no doubt soon change with more compassionate administrations. Most people are in favor of legalizing Medical Marijuana and it's use with Arthritis is well documented. It is a wonderful natural antiinflamitory. So far the entire west coast states have enacted Medical Marijuana laws: Washington, Oregon and California all allow it's medical use.

A bit of exploration on the web will help you learn how to make tinctures, oils that you can take in capsule form that then do not require smoking.

Vaporizing also avoids smoking, which can be very hard on the lungs.

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[*] posted on 4-6-2008 at 04:58 PM


In regard to my previous post. Night time doseages of Mota can relieve inflamation for an entire 24 hour period. Used in this way it tends to facilitate better sleeping and does not interfere the next day with normal daily function. Since the main ingredient is fat soluble it is absorbed in the fat and released over time. With some time on the web or at a local Clinic one can learn from others appropriate doseages, forms of administration etc.

I have recommended it to many of my clients who have had intractable pain, including arthritis and they report that they have been greatly helped by this medicine. The first step if in the US would be to set up an appointment at a local Clinic that is staffed with an M.D. who understands it's use.

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[*] posted on 5-20-2008 at 11:01 AM


My wife had had problems for years. Some told us to get water from Sea of Cortez, boil 7 minutes and drink a quarter cup every day. Worked wonders for her in just a few day, no inflamation or redness. Make sure you several miles out of the bay. We filled our 1 gallon mile jug from our boat
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[*] posted on 5-20-2008 at 11:01 AM


My wife had had problems for years. Some told us to get water from Sea of Cortez, boil 7 minutes and drink a quarter cup every day. Worked wonders for her in just a few day, no inflamation or redness. Make sure you several miles out of the bay. We filled our 1 gallon mile jug from our boat
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[*] posted on 5-20-2008 at 11:47 AM


bajarickster

The gal down the street was telling me she does the same thing and that it works for her.




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[*] posted on 5-20-2008 at 12:16 PM


DMSO, great stuff but ya never lose the craving for apples and oats.



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[*] posted on 5-20-2008 at 12:55 PM


A great anti-inflammatory drug that worked for me when I was living in TS was Mobicox...I was on crutches for several months due to a strained groin muscle that Naprosin/Motrin/Advil didn't touch. Within 24 hours, I felt tremendous relief, and within 48 hours, I was able to put away the crutches. Nothing short of a miracle for me - as before that, even with crutches I kept restraining the muscle just doing every day chores.



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[*] posted on 5-20-2008 at 03:01 PM


OSTEO ARTHRITIS------

ARTHRO-7 by GeroVita International works for me. Been taking it for a little over 7 years and would not be without it. Quit it once a year ago, and within a week I was in agony----went back on the ARTHRO-7 and the pain went away. I never miss my 2 pills per day anymore after that experience. Costs a little over $100 per 6 months supply. It contains the Glucosaminime and Chontrotin, plus other goodies.

Excercise and weight training also helps------use those joints often with resistance and this also helps keep them plyable and pain free.

----sometimes pain comes anyway (??), and then I resort to ALEVE ("Naproxin"----- works very well), or CELEBREX which also works even better. I resort to Aleve or Celebrex only about 4 or 5 times a year, and then only on family outings with the kids and grandkids where you want "no pain". :lol:
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[*] posted on 5-21-2008 at 06:43 AM


Well, this probably won't go over well, but I was diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis in February. The pain in my hands was bad enough that handshakes were a thing of dread. Not good if you live in Mexico. I did hours of browsing every site, mainstream and left field, that I could find and decided to try an allergy elimination and challenge diet. Its a huge pain to get through, (initially 4 to 6 weeks of eating not much more than fish and veggies) but I was pretty desperate. The pain and inflammation have been reduced by around 60 percent. I don't even think about flinching when I shake hands. Again, not for everyone, but there are many "inflammatory foods" that, if removed from the diet, help control and reduce pain. If anyone is interested, U2U.
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[*] posted on 5-21-2008 at 08:41 AM


There are so many dietary components to treating any illness. There is a ton of information online - an hour of reading will put you on the right path. Don't rely on a drug to alleviate symptoms, which will, in the long run, only add to physical problems, since the kidneys must filter all the drugs. Try this site for starters, and then order products from ihealthtree.com, or swansonvitamins.com, or puritan.com. Use bromelian for sure, tart cherry juice, sam-e, arnica gel, etc. - you'll see.

http://holisticonline.com/Remedies/Arthritis/arth_herbal_med...
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[*] posted on 5-21-2008 at 09:19 AM


wilderone

Great post!! Very interest site. Thanks

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[*] posted on 5-21-2008 at 03:01 PM


Another report in the paper today about Certo, liquid Pectin and grape juice for Arthritis. More reports of good success. Packet of Certo in a bottle of unfiltered grape juice, drink a glass in the morning and you may be good to go. I told someone about this and they had remarkable results from using it. Not me. I had to have my hip replaced.

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[*] posted on 5-22-2008 at 05:21 PM


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Originally posted by bajarickster
My wife had had problems for years. Some told us to get water from Sea of Cortez, boil 7 minutes and drink a quarter cup every day. Worked wonders for her in just a few day, no inflamation or redness. Make sure you several miles out of the bay. We filled our 1 gallon mile jug from our boat


I wonder if adding sea salt to distilled water (or maybe tap water) would work the same way. I know people who add sea salt to water and drink it to cleanse their system.
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